Guild Wars 2

… because first we didn’t have enough NA players on team (even though another team was allowed to play with 4 NA players on EU tourneys). Then we did have 3 NA players but we got disqulified anyway because player on our team is south american and doesn’t count as north american according to Blu even though that player has USA citizenship and he even played in WTS qualifiers for NA. Wat?

and I did a PvP match today where one disconnected and we lost 4v5!

@shadow, origin country form that player and the country he actually is playing from, esl might assumed that as fake nationality or wrong one, on EU, they state that it can be proved by documents.

(could not find rules on the usa esl site) so this is eu one ; http://www.esl.eu/eu/rules#wdh_3_1_4-Country

Send them a ticket exposing the situation.

thing is Blu knows that player since he had to prove his origin for wts qualifiers….

Hi there, Ill jump in and clear up a few things before this thread goes crazy.

Firstly, during our conversation we did not bring up the fact that one of your players was from Brazil once, you simply claimed you had three American players. The main problem which lead to your team not being admitted was the fact that you registered a second American based player just a few seconds before the tournament was supposed to start, at which point we had already processed our seedings. Were we to admit you it would have inconvenienced the other 35 players participating in the event as we would have had to take time to reseed the event.

Secondly, the WTS qualifiers are run by ArenaNet, not ESL, so we have no access to the documentation you are referring to, nor can we hold the fact that the player in question participated in the WTS qualifiers as legitimate evidence to participate in Go4 Cups.

Thirdly, and most importantly, after our conversation I did check the location of this player via our website’s logs, and he is indeed based in Brazil which would make him ineligible to participate anyway, meaning you had at most two NA players which would have still made your team ineligible to play in an NA event.

If you have problems with the way our conversation was handled, you may feel free to submit feedback on our site. http://play.eslgaming.com/complaints

Just out of curiosity though…. just theoretically, in which cathegory would you put SA players? They are not exactly EU either…

Shadowstep.6049:

Just out of curiosity though…. just theoretically, in which cathegory would you put SA players? They are not exactly EU either…

I believe they would be under a South American section of ESL. At the moment afaik one does not exist for Guild Wars 2.

BLU -

Assuming Shadow is telling the truth doesn’t rule 3.2.2 quality the SA player as NA b/c he is a US citizen?

3.2.2. Team nationality

In general, during matches of ESL national sections, at all times in-game a team must have more than 50% of its players that are residing in or have the nationality of the country or countries that the national section represents.

That means Shadow would have 3/5 NA players, more than half. Which satisfy this requirement:

1.6. Go4GuildWars2 Region Restrictions

The majority of the team have to be from the region they participate in. It’s not allowed to play in both the NA region and the EU region in the same week.

Wait – you mean tournament rules actually check WHERE a player is from instead of which server they’re on?

Why? Why would anyone care which country someone is from?? Who’s business is their citizenship…? What is this some government sanctioned event or something?

Video games are borderless people! Countries do not exist. The only real thing is lag.

mind blown

Gabriell.4856:

BLU -

Assuming Shadow is telling the truth doesn’t rule 3.2.2 quality the SA player as NA b/c he is a US citizen?

3.2.2. Team nationality

In general, during matches of ESL national sections, at all times in-game a team must have more than 50% of its players that are residing in or have the nationality of the country or countries that the national section represents.

That means Shadow would have 3/5 NA players, more than half. Which satisfy this requirement:

1.6. Go4GuildWars2 Region Restrictions

The majority of the team have to be from the region they participate in. It’s not allowed to play in both the NA region and the EU region in the same week.

The information OP gave saying he was a US citizen was not given to us in our original conversation when he was still trying to enter his team into the event. If he would like to open a ticket providing this information to us and provided it is valid with proper documentation I am sure we can allow his participation in the event as a North American player, until then however we only have his location according to our website, which states he is Brazilian.

BLUna.7928:

Gabriell.4856:

BLU -

Assuming Shadow is telling the truth doesn’t rule 3.2.2 quality the SA player as NA b/c he is a US citizen?

3.2.2. Team nationality

In general, during matches of ESL national sections, at all times in-game a team must have more than 50% of its players that are residing in or have the nationality of the country or countries that the national section represents.

That means Shadow would have 3/5 NA players, more than half. Which satisfy this requirement:

1.6. Go4GuildWars2 Region Restrictions

The majority of the team have to be from the region they participate in. It’s not allowed to play in both the NA region and the EU region in the same week.

The information OP gave saying he was a US citizen was not given to us in our original conversation when he was still trying to enter his team into the event. If he would like to open a ticket providing this information to us and provided it is valid with proper documentation I am sure we can allow his participation in the event as a North American player, until then however we only have his location according to our website, which states he is Brazilian.

So wait, you disqualified a team just because they had a Brazilian? Then you claim that they belong to the SA ESL which doesn’t exist? #Logic. We esports boys! Way to exclude an entire playerbase from ESL. No wonder there’s no esports. Thanks for the good laugh.

bhagwad.4281:

Wait – you mean tournament rules actually check WHERE a player is from instead of which server they’re on?

Why? Why would anyone care which country someone is from?? Who’s business is their citizenship…? What is this some government sanctioned event or something?

Video games are borderless people! Countries do not exist. The only real thing is lag.

mind blown

The world is kittened up

bhagwad.4281:

Wait – you mean tournament rules actually check WHERE a player is from instead of which server they’re on?

Why? Why would anyone care which country someone is from?? Who’s business is their citizenship…? What is this some government sanctioned event or something?

Video games are borderless people! Countries do not exist. The only real thing is lag.

mind blown

I agree that video games are borderless in general.

My guess is that in tournament levels where prizes are handed out, things get more restrictive because of maybe taxes or BS lawyers wrote down in the rules and regulations.

Different regions have different laws and regulations relating to tournaments. That’s probably why they have that distinction, though hopefully the NA citizenship paperwork can be processed and the issue is fixed without the need for more hostile drama that pvp settings need less and not more of these days.

In all likelihood government regulation is the reason the tournament didn’t let them participate… Could be any number of issues from price money to gambling regulations (not all countries recognize online video games as separate from online casinos). Whether or not these regulations should exist in the first place is an entirely different discussion.

When it doubt, err on the side of caution. Even within U.S. borders some states or territories get excluded from otherwise “national” events.

Dhorghar.5249:

bhagwad.4281:

Wait – you mean tournament rules actually check WHERE a player is from instead of which server they’re on?

Why? Why would anyone care which country someone is from?? Who’s business is their citizenship…? What is this some government sanctioned event or something?

Video games are borderless people! Countries do not exist. The only real thing is lag.

mind blown

Really? You’ve never heard about something called “region locking” in esports? I don’t like it either but there are quite a lot of rules on regional movement for many pro players out there and some are necessary (check wcs). I guess you are either naive or utterly clueless.

+1

It would be a bit awkward if you had a Chinese citizen on an EU team going against a Chinese team in the WTS championship.

An American shouldn’t represent EU.
A US citizen shouldn’t represent China.

This has pretty much been the esports way (sports in general) since forever

Saiyan.1704:

Dhorghar.5249:

bhagwad.4281:

Wait – you mean tournament rules actually check WHERE a player is from instead of which server they’re on?

Why? Why would anyone care which country someone is from?? Who’s business is their citizenship…? What is this some government sanctioned event or something?

Video games are borderless people! Countries do not exist. The only real thing is lag.

mind blown

Really? You’ve never heard about something called “region locking” in esports? I don’t like it either but there are quite a lot of rules on regional movement for many pro players out there and some are necessary (check wcs). I guess you are either naive or utterly clueless.

+1

It would be a bit awkward if you had a Chinese citizen on an EU team going against a Chinese team in the WTS championship.

An American shouldn’t represent EU.
A US citizen shouldn’t represent China.

This has pretty much been the esports way (sports in general) since forever

What is this, the kitten Olympics?

Where does this strange patriotism come from? Awkward for whom? The only patriotism GW2 players should have is to Tyria. Tyria is the real world – Earth is a figment of the player’s imagination.

Why would you even care if a player is Chinese? How would you even know? How does it matter?

I can’t believe people are playing the “representation” card. I thought the only reason there were separate tournaments for NA and EU was due to lag issues where teams on the same server as that on which the tournament was played would have an unfair advantage.

We play video games to escape from the real world. Especially an RPG and an MMO at that. You represent Tyria – nothing more.

So milq jeffie is here I will comfort you.
I know the big meanies took away your fun.
They had the power to and you can’t stop them
We’ll play in another soon I promise<3

My 2 cents.

If the reason for the restriction was due to government regulations then they couldn’t allow any players from those regions much less (2), where they currently permit a team of 3/5 NA players.

Restricting a player because they are from South America and then not having an option for a South American region bracket for whatever reason (even if it is due to a small population) is foolhardy for the organizers.

It is my understanding that there aren’t any monetary rewards in these tournaments. I believe its just gems and/or gold? There shouldn’t be an issue for the organizers to get rid of the restriction.

Wow this is freaking hilarious.
E dream can’t exist of this kitten happens
Sorry shadow<3
And they never recognized the fact that you let 4Na players compete in a Eu tourney
Lol

This is why GW2 Tournaments are a joke. Too many restrictions, with age included, preventing teams from playing.

Major tournis in other games (like with Fighting games ) don’t have these ridiculous restrictions that favor specific teams.

Greek.4396:

This is why GW2 Tournaments are a joke. Too many restrictions, with age included, preventing teams from playing.

Major tournis in other games (like with Fighting games ) don’t have these ridiculous restrictions that favor specific teams.

The majority of a team being from the region they are playing in/for isn’t a stupid rule.

The age restriction is simply a health and safety thing. ANet would have to be responsible for anyone under 18 attending their tournaments, which is something they don’t want or can’t afford to be liable for (do you have any idea how much the insurance cover for that would cost Anet?).

These rules don’t favour any specific team, lmfao. They apply to all, just because a team has chosen to have illegible players (whether through age or location) is their fault. The rules haven’t suddenly changed.

Good afternoon everyone,

The guy quoted is me. First of all, I understand the current rules of ESL which express totally exclusion of South america players, that has a HUGE community on this game, including Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Argentina, etc, who also is a great potential for expansion in the market Guild Wars 2 and Guild Wars 2 Hearth of Thorns. Arena Net did a BIG step forward allowing this game F2P, that means NEW PLAYERS across the world into the game aiming “test the game and opine yourself”.

There are large dealers companies such as Level Up Games Brazil, selling Guild Wars 1 and 2 (the original game) which is also a distributor and organizer of events of other big names such as Smite, Crossfire. Other companies highly reputed in South American eSport are Blizzard (Hearthstone, Heroes Of The Storm) and VALVE (CS: GO), and other games like DOTA, Starcraft, World Of Tanks, FIFA 15, etc.

As the ESL organizers and Staffs own may know, many games are integrated as America (South America, North America, Central America, excluding Cuba because of restricted laws).
Sources: http://play.eslgaming.com/heroesofthestorm/americas/heroes/open/league/summer-2015/rankings/
http://play.eslgaming.com/battlefield/pc/bf4/open/5on5-squad-obliteration-night-cup-8-america/database/members/*/
http://play.eslgaming.com/leagueoflegends/brazil/lol/major/go4lol-brazil
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/americas/hearthstone/open/1on1-conquest-sunday-6-brazil/
http://play.eslgaming.com/brazil

I see no visible barrier to exclude South American Go4Gw2 of tournaments, since the Guild Wars 2 is a game OPEN, FREE and HANDY the WORLDWIDE.

There are SEVERAL teams looking for eSports in GW2 to make it really competitive, and this could attract even more (eg the recent sponsorship of Team Pozi – Celerius eSports).

What are the procedures necessary for that possible inclusion?

I wish get an answer of ESL staffs and also the positioning of Arena Net in this matter,
Thank you.

- Nicked.

Greek.4396:

Too many restrictions, with age included, preventing teams from playing.

The restrictions are racist against young people. They should let semi skilled ppl join even if theyre only 12 yrs old like I am.

Ah, I forgot to mention how strong is Brazil eSports community, even a reputed Soccer club called Santos F.C. sponsored an BF4 eSports team.

http://play.eslgaming.com/battlefield/pc/bf4/open/5on5-squad-obliteration-night-cup-8-america/team/8369276/

Website logs….
There are so many kittened arguments here that I’m not surprised every1 is laughin off GW2 tours.

spyran.9325:

Good afternoon everyone,

The guy quoted is me. First of all, I understand the current rules of ESL which express totally exclusion of South america players, that has a HUGE community on this game, including Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Argentina, etc, who also is a great potential for expansion in the market Guild Wars 2 and Guild Wars 2 Hearth of Thorns. Arena Net did a BIG step forward allowing this game F2P, that means NEW PLAYERS across the world into the game aiming “test the game and opine yourself”.

There are large dealers companies such as Level Up Games Brazil, selling Guild Wars 1 and 2 (the original game) which is also a distributor and organizer of events of other big names such as Smite, Crossfire. Other companies highly reputed in South American eSport are Blizzard (Hearthstone, Heroes Of The Storm) and VALVE (CS: GO), and other games like DOTA, Starcraft, World Of Tanks, FIFA 15, etc.

As the ESL organizers and Staffs own may know, many games are integrated as America (South America, North America, Central America, excluding Cuba because of restricted laws).
Sources: http://play.eslgaming.com/heroesofthestorm/americas/heroes/open/league/summer-2015/rankings/
http://play.eslgaming.com/battlefield/pc/bf4/open/5on5-squad-obliteration-night-cup-8-america/database/members/*/
http://play.eslgaming.com/leagueoflegends/brazil/lol/major/go4lol-brazil
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/americas/hearthstone/open/1on1-conquest-sunday-6-brazil/
http://play.eslgaming.com/brazil

I see no visible barrier to exclude South American Go4Gw2 of tournaments, since the Guild Wars 2 is a game OPEN, FREE and HANDY the WORLDWIDE.

There are SEVERAL teams looking for eSports in GW2 to make it really competitive, and this could attract even more (eg the recent sponsorship of Team Pozi – Celerius eSports).

What are the procedures necessary for that possible inclusion?

I wish get an answer of ESL staffs and also the positioning of Arena Net in this matter,
Thank you.

- Nicked.

Ill check with the higher admins on this, I am following the rules listed on our site at the moment, which requires teams to be 3/5 from the region the tournament is being hosted in. In regards to the Americans playing on EU events, that is at the discretion of the EU admin squad, of which I am not a part of, which is why i did not comment on it.

Greek.4396:

This is why GW2 Tournaments are a joke. Too many restrictions, with age included, preventing teams from playing.

Major tournis in other games (like with Fighting games ) don’t have these ridiculous restrictions that favor specific teams.

(Leaving this reply personally, not as a representative for ESL)

FGC is extremely informal in it’s handling overall, and most events are LAN events, which helps to make having more people involved easier.

Online events in a more formal setting have a few more things to worry about which explain age/country limitations. Taxes, intellectual property laws, and other regulation can make delivering prizing or having underaged (or even of age depending on the country) participants from a certain country involved extremely complicated and could leave the organization running the event liable to suit or possibly being shut down completely, this is why you often see these problems from my personal experience.

BLUna.7928:

Greek.4396:

This is why GW2 Tournaments are a joke. Too many restrictions, with age included, preventing teams from playing.

Major tournis in other games (like with Fighting games ) don’t have these ridiculous restrictions that favor specific teams.

(Leaving this reply personally, not as a representative for ESL)

FGC is extremely informal in it’s handling overall, and most events are LAN events, which helps to make having more people involved easier.

Online events in a more formal setting have a few more things to worry about which explain age/country limitations. Taxes, intellectual property laws, and other regulation can make delivering prizing or having underaged (or even of age depending on the country) participants from a certain country involved extremely complicated and could leave the organization running the event liable to suit or possibly being shut down completely, this is why you often see these problems from my personal experience.

You can justify the restrictions because the tourney is online but that still doesn’t change what I said, it hinders competition and prevents teams from playing in a already, small population. Its still a joke and can’t be taken seriously.

FGC has EVO, the largest fighting game tourney in the world where anyone can compete from any country and any age Hell, they even pay to fly players from other parts of the world to represent their country so they can actually call EVO, A World Tournament.

You even have prodigies like Noah (8-year old) who placed top 48 in MVC 3 at EVO. Who knows, maybe there is a GW2 Prodigy out there, we will never know will we.

Yes its not a LAN tourney, but its a very large event with hundreds of thousands of ppl watching and to say GW2 is more formal when it only has 4 teams competing in a given tournament just boggles my mind.

If they can find work arounds for “all these restrictions” for the sake of a more competitive environment I am sure tournament hosts for GW2 can to.

Auldon.1972:

These rules don’t favour any specific team, lmfao. They apply to all, just because a team has chosen to have illegible players (whether through age or location) is their fault. The rules haven’t suddenly changed.

And Yes it does favor legible teams indirectly cause it makes the competition smaller, with less good players to worry about in your pools. It is no teams fault, only the organizers.

BLUna.7928:

spyran.9325:

Good afternoon everyone,

The guy quoted is me. First of all, I understand the current rules of ESL which express totally exclusion of South america players, that has a HUGE community on this game, including Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Argentina, etc, who also is a great potential for expansion in the market Guild Wars 2 and Guild Wars 2 Hearth of Thorns. Arena Net did a BIG step forward allowing this game F2P, that means NEW PLAYERS across the world into the game aiming “test the game and opine yourself”.

There are large dealers companies such as Level Up Games Brazil, selling Guild Wars 1 and 2 (the original game) which is also a distributor and organizer of events of other big names such as Smite, Crossfire. Other companies highly reputed in South American eSport are Blizzard (Hearthstone, Heroes Of The Storm) and VALVE (CS: GO), and other games like DOTA, Starcraft, World Of Tanks, FIFA 15, etc.

As the ESL organizers and Staffs own may know, many games are integrated as America (South America, North America, Central America, excluding Cuba because of restricted laws).
Sources: http://play.eslgaming.com/heroesofthestorm/americas/heroes/open/league/summer-2015/rankings/
http://play.eslgaming.com/battlefield/pc/bf4/open/5on5-squad-obliteration-night-cup-8-america/database/members/*/
http://play.eslgaming.com/leagueoflegends/brazil/lol/major/go4lol-brazil
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/americas/hearthstone/open/1on1-conquest-sunday-6-brazil/
http://play.eslgaming.com/brazil

I see no visible barrier to exclude South American Go4Gw2 of tournaments, since the Guild Wars 2 is a game OPEN, FREE and HANDY the WORLDWIDE.

There are SEVERAL teams looking for eSports in GW2 to make it really competitive, and this could attract even more (eg the recent sponsorship of Team Pozi – Celerius eSports).

What are the procedures necessary for that possible inclusion?

I wish get an answer of ESL staffs and also the positioning of Arena Net in this matter,
Thank you.

- Nicked.

Ill check with the higher admins on this, I am following the rules listed on our site at the moment, which requires teams to be 3/5 from the region the tournament is being hosted in. In regards to the Americans playing on EU events, that is at the discretion of the EU admin squad, of which I am not a part of, which is why i did not comment on it.

Thank you very much, I understand Blu, you’re just following the rules, doing your job that also we really appreciate since we all know you do it voluntarily.
I contacted ESL Staff global Oliver (Laaw) to see what I can help about it and make sure Turtle Entertainment dive into South America market on a right way!

Thanks for the support!

True, this is a video game; however, it is still subject to local laws.
Sadly, no country recognizes Tyria as an independent country maybe one day…

ESL classic, smart decisions as always

Wolfey.3407:

True, this is a video game; however, it is still subject to local laws.
Sadly, no country recognizes Tyria as an independent country maybe one day…

Hahha yes this needs to happen! I guess the problem is that Tyria i technically has a dictator, the queen. (some pve-person correct me if im wrong )

Yes, as related by Nicked we have a huge group of players in SA and we need more space to compete in ESL and WTS.
Me and Nicked played at ESL EU without problems, but we have this problem in NA.

LMAO. This is why no one takes GW2 esports seriously. The right hand doesn’t know what the left is doing, and they make up arbitrary rules for no reason. The government thing only applies to cash prizes, or high value physical real world items that can be taxed (Like cars, houses, etc.) Since GW2 doesn’t hand out cash prizes for tournaments, its a non-issue.

In other words. Tournament officials dropped the ball, and now they’re trying to come up with excuses to justify it. I am so glad I don’t follow this stuff any more, let alone try to get involved in it. I realized a while ago that GW2 esports was never going to be anything but a waste of time, and it seems like it still is.

Kravick.4906:

Since GW2 doesn’t hand out cash prizes for tournaments, its a non-issue.

I take it you don’t realise that the first and second place team receive cash prizes.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Kravick.4906:

Since GW2 doesn’t hand out cash prizes for tournaments, its a non-issue.

I take it you don’t realise that the first and second place team receive cash prizes.

I didn’t know that. But what sense does it make that 10 non NA players can play across 5 teams but not allowed to play in 2 and still be allowed to win those cash prizes?

I am hard pressed to think that it is because of government restrictions. Most of these laws are based per the individual incurring the monetary prizes.

Hey again guys, just had a chat with some of the other admins. The rule we have set in our GW2 events is mainly to circumvent EU participation in NA and vice versa, not disallow SA/Brazilian players from participating. Brazilian and other South American players should not have issues participating in future events from this point forward as “NA players” via our rules.

The problem that occurred last weekend should no longer occur in the future so long as teams have 3/5 representatives from NA/SA when they initially sign up. Apologies on my part for the problems that may have been caused by this confusion last weekend, and we hope to see you guys participating this Sunday.

BLUna.7928:

Hey again guys, just had a chat with some of the other admins. The rule we have set in our GW2 events is mainly to circumvent EU participation in NA and vice versa, not disallow SA/Brazilian players from participating. Brazilian and other South American players should not have issues participating in future events from this point forward as “NA players” via our rules.

The problem that occurred last weekend should no longer occur in the future so long as teams have 3/5 representatives from NA/SA when they initially sign up. Apologies on my part for the problems that may have been caused by this confusion last weekend, and we hope to see you guys participating this Sunday.

Thanks, its a great step! You can be sure that this will affect the contingent of players participating in the ESL. More doors will open to us, Brazilians and our fellow friends of SA.

BLUna.7928:

Hey again guys, just had a chat with some of the other admins. The rule we have set in our GW2 events is mainly to circumvent EU participation in NA and vice versa, not disallow SA/Brazilian players from participating. Brazilian and other South American players should not have issues participating in future events from this point forward as “NA players” via our rules.

The problem that occurred last weekend should no longer occur in the future so long as teams have 3/5 representatives from NA/SA when they initially sign up. Apologies on my part for the problems that may have been caused by this confusion last weekend, and we hope to see you guys participating this Sunday.

If a person sitting in the EU tries to play an NA tournament, won’t they face unacceptable amounts of lag at a competitive level? Isn’t that enough of a demotivator for them trying to participate?

If the lag is not a problem, I find it weird that Anet wants to prevent players from EU playing in NA tournaments. I mean – in this context, real world locations signify nothing. Is there some kind of patriotism, or loyalty or something at work here? Are we really looking at artificial things like “American” and whatnot?

Unable to understand the logic…

bhagwad.4281:

BLUna.7928:

Hey again guys, just had a chat with some of the other admins. The rule we have set in our GW2 events is mainly to circumvent EU participation in NA and vice versa, not disallow SA/Brazilian players from participating. Brazilian and other South American players should not have issues participating in future events from this point forward as “NA players” via our rules.

The problem that occurred last weekend should no longer occur in the future so long as teams have 3/5 representatives from NA/SA when they initially sign up. Apologies on my part for the problems that may have been caused by this confusion last weekend, and we hope to see you guys participating this Sunday.

If a person sitting in the EU tries to play an NA tournament, won’t they face unacceptable amounts of lag at a competitive level? Isn’t that enough of a demotivator for them trying to participate?

If the lag is not a problem, I find it weird that Anet wants to prevent players from EU playing in NA tournaments. I mean – in this context, real world locations signify nothing. Is there some kind of patriotism, or loyalty or something at work here? Are we really looking at artificial things like “American” and whatnot?

Unable to understand the logic…

All i know is that half the classes in the game can be played at 300 + ping

Quadox.7834:

bhagwad.4281:

BLUna.7928:

Hey again guys, just had a chat with some of the other admins. The rule we have set in our GW2 events is mainly to circumvent EU participation in NA and vice versa, not disallow SA/Brazilian players from participating. Brazilian and other South American players should not have issues participating in future events from this point forward as “NA players” via our rules.

The problem that occurred last weekend should no longer occur in the future so long as teams have 3/5 representatives from NA/SA when they initially sign up. Apologies on my part for the problems that may have been caused by this confusion last weekend, and we hope to see you guys participating this Sunday.

If a person sitting in the EU tries to play an NA tournament, won’t they face unacceptable amounts of lag at a competitive level? Isn’t that enough of a demotivator for them trying to participate?

If the lag is not a problem, I find it weird that Anet wants to prevent players from EU playing in NA tournaments. I mean – in this context, real world locations signify nothing. Is there some kind of patriotism, or loyalty or something at work here? Are we really looking at artificial things like “American” and whatnot?

Unable to understand the logic…

All i know is that half the classes in the game can be played at 300 + ping

I’ve lived with satellite broadband the majority of my young adult life. On the best of days, I had 150 ping rate average with an instant spike of 400+. My jitter was insane but I’ve played on that ping for so long, I learned to attacked ahead of time, predicting what the other person would do when my screen freezes for 2 seconds. If that’s not conditioning for Esports idk what is!

You can soloQ fine but don’t think about competing competitively with a ping of 250+. It just makes it frustrating trying to do something instantly, only to find theres a mini delay. It’s a difference between throwing an attack before an Engi Gear Shields, or during it.

Saiyan.1704:

Quadox.7834:

bhagwad.4281:

BLUna.7928:

Hey again guys, just had a chat with some of the other admins. The rule we have set in our GW2 events is mainly to circumvent EU participation in NA and vice versa, not disallow SA/Brazilian players from participating. Brazilian and other South American players should not have issues participating in future events from this point forward as “NA players” via our rules.

The problem that occurred last weekend should no longer occur in the future so long as teams have 3/5 representatives from NA/SA when they initially sign up. Apologies on my part for the problems that may have been caused by this confusion last weekend, and we hope to see you guys participating this Sunday.

If a person sitting in the EU tries to play an NA tournament, won’t they face unacceptable amounts of lag at a competitive level? Isn’t that enough of a demotivator for them trying to participate?

If the lag is not a problem, I find it weird that Anet wants to prevent players from EU playing in NA tournaments. I mean – in this context, real world locations signify nothing. Is there some kind of patriotism, or loyalty or something at work here? Are we really looking at artificial things like “American” and whatnot?

Unable to understand the logic…

All i know is that half the classes in the game can be played at 300 + ping

I’ve lived with satellite broadband the majority of my young adult life. On the best of days, I had 150 ping rate average with an instant spike of 400+. My jitter was insane but I’ve played on that ping for so long, I learned to attacked ahead of time, predicting what the other person would do when my screen freezes for 2 seconds. If that’s not conditioning for Esports idk what is!

You can soloQ fine but don’t think about competing competitively with a ping of 250+. It just makes it frustrating trying to do something instantly, only to find theres a mini delay. It’s a difference between throwing an attack before an Engi Gear Shields, or during it.

I was just playing on the fact that Guild Wars has officially become Passive Wars with this specialization patch

Quadox.7834:

bhagwad.4281:

BLUna.7928:

Hey again guys, just had a chat with some of the other admins. The rule we have set in our GW2 events is mainly to circumvent EU participation in NA and vice versa, not disallow SA/Brazilian players from participating. Brazilian and other South American players should not have issues participating in future events from this point forward as “NA players” via our rules.

The problem that occurred last weekend should no longer occur in the future so long as teams have 3/5 representatives from NA/SA when they initially sign up. Apologies on my part for the problems that may have been caused by this confusion last weekend, and we hope to see you guys participating this Sunday.

If a person sitting in the EU tries to play an NA tournament, won’t they face unacceptable amounts of lag at a competitive level? Isn’t that enough of a demotivator for them trying to participate?

If the lag is not a problem, I find it weird that Anet wants to prevent players from EU playing in NA tournaments. I mean – in this context, real world locations signify nothing. Is there some kind of patriotism, or loyalty or something at work here? Are we really looking at artificial things like “American” and whatnot?

Unable to understand the logic…

All i know is that half the classes in the game can be played at 300 + ping

Just because they can be doesn’t mean you can be 100% effective on them. I miss half of my burning speed dodges on NA due to slight skill delay with 160-200 ping whereas I get almost all of them on EU.