Guild Wars 2

JackBeShippin.4159:

They were going to remove rank, no one wanted that.

Arenanet listened (kind off) and kept rank, but made it more obviously trivial.

April 16th we will have a more active pvp community then ever before, new rewards to earn and shorter queu times.

I do feel for those like ostrich but they are an incredibly big minority, and while they deserve some compensation, I doubt there will be anything fair thats enough… If they give all those that are rank 60 (presumably too much for dragon) a special title that is no longer obtainable, a rank 59 could’ve pushed himself till that 60 “if he had known” and so on and so on.

Everyone over dragon should get as many rank chests as they are over it, capped at the maximum number, which I guess would be like 25? And yes, then still you wouldnt be rewarded fairly, but look at the fractured update, huge changes usually bring some drama with it. Can’t do much else but have faith in the devs, that they are making the right decisions that is best to have an active pvp environment.

ps; Lux, please stop throwing temper tantrums like you’re a 4 year old with a dictionairy,
I don’t know you, but your posts are a pain to read, what you believe makes a good debater has no place in this thread.

I believe the long term effect of this is corrosive. 5 years down the line, what’s to distinguish a player who has played for 4 years rather than one that has played for 6 months? I mean…no one likes to play without recognition or rewards.

Instead, why not just allow ranks to keep going up over 80 forever? Or if you don’t want that, let the PvP conqueror titles be as they are without rescaling. Give us something.

I’m r52 so technically I should be happy. But I’m terrified. Why? Because once I hit r55 (the new r80), I won’t have any reason to play anymore. Sure, I like the game and it’s fun, but this is an MMO. We all play for character progression. If I just wanted some temporary leaderboards I might as well play a MOBA.

Character progression is the name of the game.

It’s only corrosive if you assume everyone plays pvp mainly to achieve dragon finisher.

You don’t need to be terrified at all, you’re brain is playing a trick on you because your goal is suddenly virtually reached. But you see the truth is surely arenanet will create more rewards for pvp players that create some distinction between 5 years players and 3 months players, most likely ranks going up over 80 forever comes to mind.

You are one of the lucky few who are benefitting the most from the changes, the only reason why you panick is because you can’t see your new goal yet.

PS; I’m positive that the new rewards system will be interesting enough to keep you playing for a good while and when that runs out, I’m sure another goal will be designed/developped/put in game by the dev’s that at least gets u a bit motivated to play, after all it is their job.

(Yes r80 and ranks as it is now is probably the main reason why some people are grinding their souls away, to try and stand out from the crowd/get some online adoration/be proud of something, those are probably also the most vocal right now concerning the subject. But the new rewards and possible new goals and future implementations into pvp will motivate far more people than the rank system ever did.)

TL:DR=
Ranks as it is now only motivates those who are very high rank (65+) since those are the ones that stand out because of it. = +- 600 players maybe?
On the other hand it demotivates everyone who is not high rank.

Make ranks trivial/outdated, add a LS like achievement system to pvp and boom the casuals flow in like crazy and queu time shortens and all kind of other nice benefits for everyone.

I’m not saying this is the way I like it per se, but it’s definitely not a bad strategy, and it is a drastic one yes but to be honest it’s necessairy to keep the pvp alive.

JackBeShippin.4159:

It’s only corrosive if you assume everyone plays pvp mainly to achieve dragon finisher.

You don’t need to be terrified at all, you’re brain is playing a trick on you because your goal is suddenly virtually reached. But you see the truth is surely arenanet will create more rewards for pvp players that create some distinction between 5 years players and 3 months players, most likely ranks going up over 80 forever comes to mind.

You are one of the lucky few who are benefitting the most from the changes, the only reason why you panick is because you can’t see your new goal yet.

I would be cool if ranks went beyond 80. But I don’t think Anet has said they will do any such thing have they?

They haven’t as far as I know, but it just makes logical sense that they create something to grind for.

When we hit that time when every pve player has 5 legendaries, they will introduce new ones. Same thing here, it’s their job,.

I’m agree with you guys. remove this is gonna hate everyone to spend hours trying to do that and don’t give anything to who don’t care about this.

They were going to rid pvp of ranks altogether.
There was a lot of complaining about that.
The idea seems to be to have a soft reset on spvp so that the influx of new players trying the game mode would not feel disadvantaged. The new players should come for the integrated reward system (e.g. getting dungeon loot from pvp).

So this really is a compromise where the original idea was just to be rid of ranks.

In other words, you already are at the middle ground. This is the best you will get.

Mixistrike.7840:

I’m agree with you guys. remove this is gonna hate everyone to spend hours trying to do that and don’t give anything to who don’t care about this.

Yeah! (??)
All is vain.

That said this is the best thing that happened to PvP since PvP. Don’t worry about the carrot on the end of the stick, there will be other, better tasting carrots. Which due to the influx of players you’ll be able to enjoy all day long rather than every 30 minutes that your queue decides to pop (which was likely a 4 vs 5 match anyway against a group of confused deer-ranked players).

I’m also hoping they can introduce a dragon bracket now, rank 50-80 shouldn’t be pitted against rank 30 in the first place. There’s a huge difference in PvP time played.

I would like to see rank finishers beyond Dragon Finisher for rank 80+ people. So there is a new exclusive rank to go for, for those that will be 80+ come 15th April patch.

Such as 80+ 10 is Super Rabbit
80 + 20 is Super Dolyak
etc etc

So the ranks kind of reset, you could even have different colours. 1-80 Rank is yellow currently. 81-160 Rank could be red colour, so when you see someone with a Red Shark finisher (80+60 ranks), you know that guy has put in the hours in sPvP and the prestige is still there.

I think this could be a nice in between for those that like the change but also those hardcore PvPers that want to show some kitten in game.

Kuper.2641:

I would like to see rank finishers beyond Dragon Finisher for rank 80+ people. So there is a new exclusive rank to go for, for those that will be 80+ come 15th April patch.

Such as 80+ 10 is Super Rabbit
80 + 20 is Super Dolyak
etc etc

So the ranks kind of reset, you could even have different colours. 1-80 Rank is yellow currently. 81-160 Rank could be red colour, so when you see someone with a Red Shark finisher (80+60 ranks), you know that guy has put in the hours in sPvP and the prestige is still there.

I think this could be a nice in between for those that like the change but also those hardcore PvPers that want to show some kitten in game.

Would love something like this. Unfortunately most people here don’t seem to want want to play an MMO which rewards time spent and character progression permanently. For some reason they think people are going to feel inferior seeing how far others have gone.

Nary Why Irk.8150:

It is very important to remark that anet needs to reconsider this dragon giveaway and mistreatment with all players at 60’s/70.

Tell me how many rank 60-70 didn’t do skyhammer exploit farm. I bet all of them did it at least once.

All i see are folks that are realizing that they spend weeks grinding skyhammer exploit for nothing.

I see it as a punishment for all those that exploited rankpoints in some way.

Void.4239:

I bet all of them did it at least once.

And you know this how exactly?

Let’s also take away legendaries from PvE’ers because they went on the champ train.