kittenmit ArenaNet, seriously? I thought it was annoying enough getting 6k crit by a bird but now it will be much harder to kill the ranger.
Please scrap the Druid design, you have to have someone on your design team with more creativity under their belt. I thought Shatterspike 2.0, er, sorry, the """"Chronomancer"""" was poorly designed.
Druids isn’t as much as a support spec, it’s purely a healing spec. The whole thing is based around healing yourself and allies. That’s it.
It offers no utility, mobility, boons, conditions, damage migration or damage. It’s just raw healing. Which, works so great with ranger other specs and weapons like OH WAIT
It offers no utility, mobility, boons, conditions, damage migration or damage. It’s just raw healing. Which, works so great with ranger other specs and weapons like OH WAIT
So it offers no mobility, yet has a 1200 range movement skill, AOE superspeed (trait) or 33% movespeed trait with -33% duration on movement impairing condies, okay…
It offers no utility, mobility, boons, conditions, damage migration or damage. It’s just raw healing. Which, works so great with ranger other specs and weapons like OH WAIT
So it offers no mobility, yet has a 1200 range movement skill, AOE superspeed (trait) or 33% movespeed trait, with -33% duration on movement impairing condies, okay…
Oh sorry, it offers SOME mobility. Mobility to run away from foes, something the ranger CLEARLY needs?
It offers no utility, mobility, boons, conditions, damage migration or damage. It’s just raw healing. Which, works so great with ranger other specs and weapons like OH WAIT
So it offers no mobility, yet has a 1200 range movement skill, AOE superspeed (trait) or 33% movespeed trait, with -33% duration on movement impairing condies, okay…
Oh sorry, it offers SOME mobility. Mobility to run away from foes, something the ranger CLEARLY needs?
Get smart.
Im pretty sure GS/Staff Rangers will be able to cover 2400 units faster than Warriors. What do you want, Z axis teleports?
It offers no utility, mobility, boons, conditions, damage migration or damage. It’s just raw healing. Which, works so great with ranger other specs and weapons like OH WAIT
So it offers no mobility, yet has a 1200 range movement skill, AOE superspeed (trait) or 33% movespeed trait, with -33% duration on movement impairing condies, okay…
Oh sorry, it offers SOME mobility. Mobility to run away from foes, something the ranger CLEARLY needs?
Get smart.
Apparently I’m smart enough to be able to read traits and skills, unlike some… and guess what it has some other things like utility, damage mitigation, etc that you claim are non existent, maybe you should read the notes on Dulfy/Reddit.
It offers no utility, mobility, boons, conditions, damage migration or damage. It’s just raw healing. Which, works so great with ranger other specs and weapons like OH WAIT
So it offers no mobility, yet has a 1200 range movement skill, AOE superspeed (trait) or 33% movespeed trait, with -33% duration on movement impairing condies, okay…
Oh sorry, it offers SOME mobility. Mobility to run away from foes, something the ranger CLEARLY needs?
Get smart.
Apparently I’m smart enough to be able to read traits and skills, unlike some…
Rangers already have decent mobility, this adds just decent mobility. As in, super speed. Sure, you got a 1,200 range leap so you can escape for your longbow, or just take GS for the same leap distance and you have damage. Apparently you’ve forgotten you can only have 2 weapons, as traversing half way across the map won’t help if your ranged weapon does tickle damage.
Are you implying Grace of the Land, a mild condition damage reduction but only when transformed is good? Empathic Bond and Shout runes will dance circles around that pathetic trait.
Rangers already have decent mobility, this adds just decent mobility. As in, super speed. There is no 1,200 range leap, no idea where you imagined that and reduced movement impairment is NOT adding to mobility.
In other words, it adds NOTHING to rangers mobility.
What? Learn to read, I didn’t say it had a 1200 range leap, I said it had a “1200 range movement skill”, the number 3 skill on staff.
And reduced duration on movement impairment does increase mobility, you have higher average movement / cover a greater distance if you are only crippled for 4 secs instead of 6 seconds.
Are implying Grace of the Land, a mild condition damage reduction but only when transformed is good? Empathic Bond and Shout runes will dance circles around that pathetic trait.
Empathic bond is kitten, but I’m not going to argue about it, it is irrelevant, you claimed it has no damage mitigation when it clearly does.
It offers no utility, mobility, boons, conditions, damage migration or damage. It’s just raw healing. Which, works so great with ranger other specs and weapons like OH WAIT
So it offers no mobility, yet has a 1200 range movement skill, AOE superspeed (trait) or 33% movespeed trait, with -33% duration on movement impairing condies, okay…
Oh sorry, it offers SOME mobility. Mobility to run away from foes, something the ranger CLEARLY needs?
Get smart.
Ranger has excellent mobility. It’s one of the few classes that can easily maintain perma swiftness through either shouts, RaO, warhorn, call of the wild trait, skirmishing trait line, bird pets, etc…
Not to mention the two leaps skills which offer solid in combat mobility with such low cooldowns, along with quickening zephyr which offers superspeed as an excellent method of engaging or disengaging.
Disengage is fine due high stability uptime if running skills such as Sotw and or RaO. There’s also lightning reflexes and the stealth from longbow to assist you should you be running it.
It offers no utility, mobility, boons, conditions, damage migration or damage. It’s just raw healing. Which, works so great with ranger other specs and weapons like OH WAIT
So it offers no mobility, yet has a 1200 range movement skill, AOE superspeed (trait) or 33% movespeed trait, with -33% duration on movement impairing condies, okay…
Oh sorry, it offers SOME mobility. Mobility to run away from foes, something the ranger CLEARLY needs?
Get smart.
Apparently I’m smart enough to be able to read traits and skills, unlike some…
Rangers already have decent mobility, this adds just decent mobility. As in, super speed. There is no 1,200 range leap, no idea where you imagined that and reduced movement impairment is NOT adding to mobility.
In other words, it adds NOTHING to rangers mobility.
What? Learn to read, I didn’t say it had a 1200 range leap, I said it had a “1200 range movement skill”, the number 3 skill on staff.
And reduced duration on movement impairment does increase mobility, you have higher average movement / cover a greater distance if you are only crippled for 4 secs instead of 6 seconds.
I just saw Ancestral Grace and it’s basically the GS leap. Which, if you are going damage you’d want the GS. Take both staff and GS if you want to get out of combat instantly at anytime. I thought that is why Ride the Lightning got nerfed?
So if you are going damage, you are taking the GS unless you want to make the staff your tickle damage ranged weapon of choice. Once again, staffs only purpose is to heal.
As for getting crippled on a druid? Who cares? You got super speed, condition removal, snare, daze. It’s like trying to snare a necromancer, last time I checked they don’t give a kitten.
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
That is the problem, it’s not a buff. It’s just adding bunker role to ranger. There is absolutely no reason to go anything but full healing power tank on Druid.
Enjoy your “buff,” you got only 1 build and 1 role.
Meanwhile, I’m still deciding if I want my Berserker condition damage or power… Or maybe a tanky condi, I could also go soldiers. I wonder if I can make Powerful Synergy work and go condi with GS…
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
That is the problem, it’s not a buff. It’s just adding bunker role to ranger. There is absolutely no reason to go anything but full healing power tank on Druid.
Enjoy your “buff,” you got only 1 build.
It’s funny that you are generalizing and finalizing things about a class that is not even released or even just played in BWE. What a sad life to live wouldn’t you say?
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
That is the problem, it’s not a buff. It’s just adding bunker role to ranger. There is absolutely no reason to go anything but full healing power tank on Druid.
Enjoy your “buff,” you got only 1 build.
It’s funny that you are generalizing and finalizing things about a class that is not even released or even just played in BWE. What a sad life to live wouldn’t you say?
How the kitten does theory crafting = sad life?
If you are trying to bully, you are failing horribly.
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
That is the problem, it’s not a buff. It’s just adding bunker role to ranger. There is absolutely no reason to go anything but full healing power tank on Druid.
Enjoy your “buff,” you got only 1 build.
It’s funny that you are generalizing and finalizing things about a class that is not even released or even just played in BWE. What a sad life to live wouldn’t you say?
How the kitten does theory crafting = sad life?
If you are trying to bully, you are failing horribly.
Am I the bully now? Dude.. get a hold of yourself, theorycrafting with what? Temporary stuff? Okay…
FYI – theorycrafting is not GENERALIZING AND FINALIZING. You are saying as if Druids will only get 1 BUILD.
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
That is the problem, it’s not a buff. It’s just adding bunker role to ranger. There is absolutely no reason to go anything but full healing power tank on Druid.
Enjoy your “buff,” you got only 1 build.
It’s funny that you are generalizing and finalizing things about a class that is not even released or even just played in BWE. What a sad life to live wouldn’t you say?
How the kitten does theory crafting = sad life?
If you are trying to bully, you are failing horribly.
Am I the bully now? Dude.. get a hold of yourself, theorycrafting with what? Temporary stuff? Okay…
FYI – theorycrafting is not GENERALIZING AND FINALIZING. You are saying as if Druids will only get 1 BUILD.
I mean really?
Temporary? Yes, but the concept is there. ArenaNet, as of right now, wants the Druid to be purely a healer. There is no evidence that shows they want to change it from being a healer-like role. No conditions, no power, not even buffs from boons. Just healing.
Okay Einstein, what build have you thought up? What Druid will you be playing?
It’s simply a trait line that offers team support just like every other class already has. Might I add that nothing in these Druid notes said anything about additional sources of stability, no invulns, not even any extra blocks. In other words, I can assure you that it won’t be so easy for a Ranger to stand in the middle of a 4v4 mid point skirmish and use these cast animation required heals. Oh and Ranger is medium, not heavy like a Guardian.
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
That is the problem, it’s not a buff. It’s just adding bunker role to ranger. There is absolutely no reason to go anything but full healing power tank on Druid.
Enjoy your “buff,” you got only 1 build.
It’s funny that you are generalizing and finalizing things about a class that is not even released or even just played in BWE. What a sad life to live wouldn’t you say?
How the kitten does theory crafting = sad life?
If you are trying to bully, you are failing horribly.
Am I the bully now? Dude.. get a hold of yourself, theorycrafting with what? Temporary stuff? Okay…
FYI – theorycrafting is not GENERALIZING AND FINALIZING. You are saying as if Druids will only get 1 BUILD.
I mean really?
Temporary? Yes, but the concept is there. ArenaNet, as of right now, wants the Druid to be purely a healer. There is no evidence that shows they want to change it from being a healer-like role. No conditions, no power, not even buffs from boons. Just healing.
Okay Einstien, what build have you thought up? What Druid will you be playing?
There is a dazebot MoC build that you can use. A remorseless One you can also use which is in the ranger forums..
It’s simply a trait line that offers team support just like every other class already has. Might I add that nothing in these Druid notes said anything about additional sources of stability, no invulns, not even any extra blocks. In other words, I can assure you that it won’t be so easy for a Ranger to stand in the middle of a 4v4 mid point skirmish and use these cast animation required heals. Oh and Ranger is medium, not heavy like a Guardian.
~ Just relax until you see it in practical play.
Without a doubt bunker ranger will be very strong. I’m theorizing shout ranger will make a powerful come back, covering the stability and condition weaknesses. That being said, it is to early to say what kind of bunker Druid will be.
But we can easily say as of right now, Druid, will be a bunker.
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
That is the problem, it’s not a buff. It’s just adding bunker role to ranger. There is absolutely no reason to go anything but full healing power tank on Druid.
Enjoy your “buff,” you got only 1 build.
It’s funny that you are generalizing and finalizing things about a class that is not even released or even just played in BWE. What a sad life to live wouldn’t you say?
How the kitten does theory crafting = sad life?
If you are trying to bully, you are failing horribly.
Am I the bully now? Dude.. get a hold of yourself, theorycrafting with what? Temporary stuff? Okay…
FYI – theorycrafting is not GENERALIZING AND FINALIZING. You are saying as if Druids will only get 1 BUILD.
I mean really?
Temporary? Yes, but the concept is there. ArenaNet, as of right now, wants the Druid to be purely a healer. There is no evidence that shows they want to change it from being a healer-like role. No conditions, no power, not even buffs from boons. Just healing.
Okay Einstien, what build have you thought up? What Druid will you be playing?
There is a dazebot MoC build that you can use. A remorseless One you can also use which is in the ranger forums..
So yeah… 1 Build… Yea right..
LOL, a stun lock build on ranger? I’ve seen those! Dead rangers use them
So wait, you honestly expect to burst someone down when you swap to using staff? LOL What damaging staff skill will you use to burst? Astral Wisp?
So far there’s already two solid builds for druid on the ranger forum. One that is a Remorseless Melee Druid for damage and lockdown control and another that’s a point control trapper druid who uses the druid’s incredible control skills and that pull to keep the enemy in your traps. In fact druid addresses all the issues trapper ranger has had in the past including mobility, condition management, sustain, and ranged pressure.
That plus the healing support bunker build makes three builds that look very promising. And the druid has only been revealed for less than a day.
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
That is the problem, it’s not a buff. It’s just adding bunker role to ranger. There is absolutely no reason to go anything but full healing power tank on Druid.
Enjoy your “buff,” you got only 1 build.
It’s funny that you are generalizing and finalizing things about a class that is not even released or even just played in BWE. What a sad life to live wouldn’t you say?
How the kitten does theory crafting = sad life?
If you are trying to bully, you are failing horribly.
Am I the bully now? Dude.. get a hold of yourself, theorycrafting with what? Temporary stuff? Okay…
FYI – theorycrafting is not GENERALIZING AND FINALIZING. You are saying as if Druids will only get 1 BUILD.
I mean really?
Temporary? Yes, but the concept is there. ArenaNet, as of right now, wants the Druid to be purely a healer. There is no evidence that shows they want to change it from being a healer-like role. No conditions, no power, not even buffs from boons. Just healing.
Okay Einstien, what build have you thought up? What Druid will you be playing?
There is a dazebot MoC build that you can use. A remorseless One you can also use which is in the ranger forums..
So yeah… 1 Build… Yea right..
LOL, a stun lock build on ranger? I’ve seen those! Dead rangers use them
Now I am giving you builds, and you counter it with a different argument? Isnt it your original argument is “Druids will only have 1 build”
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
That is the problem, it’s not a buff. It’s just adding bunker role to ranger. There is absolutely no reason to go anything but full healing power tank on Druid.
Enjoy your “buff,” you got only 1 build.
It’s funny that you are generalizing and finalizing things about a class that is not even released or even just played in BWE. What a sad life to live wouldn’t you say?
How the kitten does theory crafting = sad life?
If you are trying to bully, you are failing horribly.
Am I the bully now? Dude.. get a hold of yourself, theorycrafting with what? Temporary stuff? Okay…
FYI – theorycrafting is not GENERALIZING AND FINALIZING. You are saying as if Druids will only get 1 BUILD.
I mean really?
Temporary? Yes, but the concept is there. ArenaNet, as of right now, wants the Druid to be purely a healer. There is no evidence that shows they want to change it from being a healer-like role. No conditions, no power, not even buffs from boons. Just healing.
Okay Einstien, what build have you thought up? What Druid will you be playing?
There is a dazebot MoC build that you can use. A remorseless One you can also use which is in the ranger forums..
So yeah… 1 Build… Yea right..
LOL, a stun lock build on ranger? I’ve seen those! Dead rangers use them
Now I am giving you builds, and you counter it with a different argument? Isnt it your original argument is “Druids will only have 1 build”
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
That is the problem, it’s not a buff. It’s just adding bunker role to ranger. There is absolutely no reason to go anything but full healing power tank on Druid.
Enjoy your “buff,” you got only 1 build.
It’s funny that you are generalizing and finalizing things about a class that is not even released or even just played in BWE. What a sad life to live wouldn’t you say?
How the kitten does theory crafting = sad life?
If you are trying to bully, you are failing horribly.
Am I the bully now? Dude.. get a hold of yourself, theorycrafting with what? Temporary stuff? Okay…
FYI – theorycrafting is not GENERALIZING AND FINALIZING. You are saying as if Druids will only get 1 BUILD.
I mean really?
Temporary? Yes, but the concept is there. ArenaNet, as of right now, wants the Druid to be purely a healer. There is no evidence that shows they want to change it from being a healer-like role. No conditions, no power, not even buffs from boons. Just healing.
Okay Einstien, what build have you thought up? What Druid will you be playing?
There is a dazebot MoC build that you can use. A remorseless One you can also use which is in the ranger forums..
So yeah… 1 Build… Yea right..
LOL, a stun lock build on ranger? I’ve seen those! Dead rangers use them
Now I am giving you builds, and you counter it with a different argument? Isnt it your original argument is “Druids will only have 1 build”
i think he was talking about viable builds
How can you deem something is viable if a class isn’t released? What credibility does it hold?
How can you deem something is viable if a class isn’t released?
Looking at the available skills they revealed and common sense.
LOL, so you are telling me, Oh look its viable, then when they changed it and the finalized list comes in, only to tell me again, oops, It’s not viable?
All of these available skills you are saying here, is subject to change. So deeming something is viable BEFORE the changes is..
How can you deem something is viable if a class isn’t released?
Looking at the available skills they revealed and common sense.
LOL, so you are telling me, Oh look its viable, then when they changed it and the finalized list comes in, only to tell me again, oops, It’s not viable?
All of these available skills you are saying here, is subject to change. So deeming something is viable BEFORE the changes is..
This is EXACTLY why we need to point out the problems now. You think ArenaNet designed the Druid to play only 1 role by accident?
It’s simply a trait line that offers team support just like every other class already has. Might I add that nothing in these Druid notes said anything about additional sources of stability, no invulns, not even any extra blocks. In other words, I can assure you that it won’t be so easy for a Ranger to stand in the middle of a 4v4 mid point skirmish and use these cast animation required heals. Oh and Ranger is medium, not heavy like a Guardian.
~ Just relax until you see it in practical play.
Without a doubt bunker ranger will be very strong. I’m theorizing shout ranger will make a powerful come back, covering the stability and condition weaknesses. That being said, it is to early to say what kind of bunker Druid will be.
But we can easily say as of right now, Druid, will be a bunker.
A proper “actual bunker” requires a lot more than heals to be functional
Ability to survive while being focused 2v1 ~ Ranger lacks this completely
Heavy AoE CCs, to decap points 1v1 and stop stomps, primarily
Heavy boon support, including AoE protections, AoE stability, ect.. ect..
Heavy AoE condi cleanse
Heavy AoE heals
A Bunker is about party damage mitigation. The Druid as a Bunker will have no where near the level of party damage mitigation as a Guardian Bunker. The Druid will be still be an easy kill 2v1 while focused mostly due to the lack of stability, where as a Guardian is not. The Druid will also have no DPS what so ever as a Bunker and I mean none. It won’t even have boons to assist party members in DPSing, where as a Guardian has many.
If anything will become viable within the Druid trait line, it will end up being some condi build mainly focused on DPSing. More than likely Rabid, Carrion maybe even Celestial. More than likely running Shortbow/Staff and Skirm/Wild/Druid Trait Line overr Nature or Beast.
To the people who try and run Staff/Sword-Dagger Wild/Nature/Druid, they’re going to quickly find out that these new heal skills are Staff animations and when you are on the ground rolling around to live with your Sword/Dagger, you won’t be using any team heals and even when you are using your team heals, good luck landing them with little to no stability, protections, condi cleanse or invulns.
It’s simply a trait line that offers team support just like every other class already has. Might I add that nothing in these Druid notes said anything about additional sources of stability, no invulns, not even any extra blocks. In other words, I can assure you that it won’t be so easy for a Ranger to stand in the middle of a 4v4 mid point skirmish and use these cast animation required heals. Oh and Ranger is medium, not heavy like a Guardian.
~ Just relax until you see it in practical play.
Without a doubt bunker ranger will be very strong. I’m theorizing shout ranger will make a powerful come back, covering the stability and condition weaknesses. That being said, it is to early to say what kind of bunker Druid will be.
But we can easily say as of right now, Druid, will be a bunker.
A proper “actual bunker” requires a lot more than heals to be functional
Ability to survive while being focused 2v1 ~ Ranger lacks this completely
Heavy AoE CCs, to decap points 1v1 and stop stomps, primarily
Heavy boon support, including AoE protections, AoE stability, ect.. ect..
Heavy AoE condi cleanse
Heavy AoE heals
A Bunker is about party damage mitigation. The Druid as a Bunker will have no where near the level of party damage mitigation as a Guardian Bunker. The Druid will be still be an easy kill 2v1 while focused mostly due to the lack of stability, where as a Guardian is not. The Druid will also have no DPS what so ever as a Bunker and I mean none. It won’t even have boons to assist party members in DPSing, where as a Guardian has many.
If anything will become viable within the Druid trait line, it will end up being some condi build mainly focused on DPSing. More than likely Rabid, Carrion maybe even Celestial. More than likely running Shortbow/Staff and Skirm/Wild/Druid Trait Line overr Nature or Beast.
To the people who try and run Staff/Sword-Dagger Wild/Nature/Druid, they’re going to quickly find out that these new heal skills are Staff animations and when you are on the ground rolling around to live with your Sword/Dagger, you won’t be using any team heals and even when you are using your team heals, good luck landing them with little to no stability, protections, condi cleanse or invulns.
… Does everyone just forget that Shout Ranger is a thing?
Because, Shout Druid, can be a thing.
Rampage as One, 48 second cooldown, 10 seconds of stability. Their access to stability, heavy condi-removal, regen and swiftness spamming, constant application of Taunt and Weakness.
Ability to survive while being focused 2v1. Check. Have you not seen a GS bunker ranger?
Heavy AoE CCs, to decap points 1v1 and stop stomps, primarily. AoE stun on weapon swap, another CC on transformation and can grant invisibility to teammates. Check.
Heavy boon support, including AoE protections, AoE stability. This lacks, but makes up for it in healing spades. So check.
Heavy AoE condi cleanse. Check, the ranger can constantly be cleansed with shouts and pet can take conditions. It has some AoE condi-cleanse as well. So check.
Heavy AoE heals. CHECK CHECK CHECK and check.
But lets not forget the biggest problem, Druid only has 1 thing going for it and 1 thing only. Unlike other elite specs, is it simply not ideal to bring anything but healing bunker with Druid.
Elite spec only bringing 1 build.
There seems to be a lot of options for Druid builds but most of them will be healing power centric, I think remorseless Crusaders and settlers condi bunker 2.0 and maybe even some cele build could all work really well, and I’m excited to try it out!
And let’s not forget that outside of signet of stone, limited stealth access, and RaO stab, Druid will be relatively easy to focus, lockdown, and kill in pvp. That sustain means little when you’re being pounded into oblivion, as evidenced by point-holder necro builds. The staff movement skill helps though, and overall I think it’s a good supplement to defensive ranger builds and I’m excited to try it,
Necromancer Main
Taking a break from GW2 to play various
Nintendo games..
Ranger gets buffed after being the lowest of the all, everyone loses their minds… What a joke…
Thats a joke i hope!
You know good Ranger roamers in Wvw?
You dont know them?
You CANT kill a good Ranger, but he can.
Please watch some Ranger roamer streams. Ranger is “S-Tier in Roaming”
