Guild Wars 2

First of all.. Duelling is great, it’s the perfect way to test builds/waste time/wait for Q’s/ compete/ test skill / claim your argument valid/ win your court to save dwarfs

Implementing a function to duel anyone/everywhere would be amazing.

How should this work?

With a command ( f.e. /Challenge *Player1 ) a player gets an invite to accept or deny the duel challenge. This command would only be available if that player is near ( 600 range i guess? ). Instead of bringing both players into a new instance and letting them duel there.. let the duelling happen right on place, where people can see this. (=> in hotm add a 10-15ish arenas where people can duel in but other people can still pass by.

Programmingwise i wouldnt really know how this could be implemented ( maybe adding new method to the player class which implies if “the duel accepted” the player becomes an enemy to the other player, but remains friendly to the surroundings. Herefor each player should have a maximum of only 1 duel active. This duel is ended on death and is forced stop when a Q pops up. )

To prevent being spammed by invites, they should add a checkbox as an invite.

And i think i’m not the only one willing to pay 20bucks to just get this in the game.

I totally agree

I generally dont like duels. They really have no meaning to real fights in WvW or PvP as I Play a thief and the element of surprise is part of my playstyle. (especially WvW where thieves can one shot each other for the most part) And if you try to duel other thieves, its almost always them trying to jack you while you are bowing. I pretty much gave up on duels myself but sure as heck do not run from a 1v1 in PvP. As that is where I am mostly.

With that said, the reason I dont agree with it, is that its just another grieving model to this game that is not needed. Especially the “public” duel. If the person does not accept the duel it will be public shaming for not doing so and so on.. If they do and get beat, it will be even worse.

nightblood.7910:

I generally dont like duels. They really have no meaning to real fights in WvW or PvP as I Play a thief and the element of surprise is part of my playstyle. (especially WvW where thieves can one shot each other for the most part) And if you try to duel other thieves, its almost always them trying to jack you while you are bowing. I pretty much gave up on duels myself but sure as heck do not run from a 1v1 in PvP. As that is where I am mostly.

With that said, the reason I dont agree with it, is that its just another grieving model to this game that is not needed. Especially the “public” duel. If the person does not accept the duel it will be public shaming for not doing so and so on.. If they do and get beat, it will be even worse.

That’s why the “challenge-message” will be private. And you can accept private aswel. But yeah, in case you dont want to get spammed by fanboys wanting to duel with you there should be a function disabling duelling. ( like the dance thingy or smth, so people can see if you’re up for duelling). And if you dont want to duel in public, you just can arrange a place where not many people are by yourself.

For sure not everywhere. There are locations where duels would simply be extremely annoying like big cities, merchants, way points etc.

*types /Challenge *Player1
*Ctrl-C
*Follows *Player1 around
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines

There just needs to be dedicated dueling areas, I suggested they use the old Lion’s Arch courtyard and turn it into an arena, it is already 1/2 way there anyways.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/LA-Statue-Area-Arena/first#post5082508

The area with the sand is already set up with a confined area + a gate, and on the opposite side of the piazza is an area that could be turned into the exact same thing.

why duelling in a dungeon or in a event ? wvw is for that you can run around and attach people … or buy an arena … If i roam in wvw it is quite obvious that if i meet an enimy he will probably attack me. I don’t like the system like in rom where you can ask me to fight everywhere . If i want to duel i go in mists or in wvw

But I will say, as true 1v1 arena, where you have to come into one of the PvP maps, find the player, and then fight. Disengage and reengage being part of the fight. Maybe not as large as one of the PvP maps.

Like a 1v1 at clock tower where you have plenty of LoS blocks, places to teleport, and basically use an entire skill bar to its fullest.

I just think current “dueling” limits players skill set vs using it to its fullest. I play a thief, but even take a mesmer and portal, being able to effectively use it in a duel is rare and Ive only seen one person that could pull it off. They were on GoM.

So yeah I would be down for a dueling arena that was more than just flat land.

Zietlogik.6208:

*types /Challenge *Player1
*Ctrl-C
*Follows *Player1 around
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines

There just needs to be dedicated dueling areas, I suggested they use the old Lion’s Arch courtyard and turn it into an arena, it is already 1/2 way there anyways.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/LA-Statue-Area-Arena/first#post5082508

The area with the sand is already set up with a confined area + a gate, and on the opposite side of the piazza is an area that could be turned into the exact same thing.

i guess u just came here to troll, just like ur post suggests other people would w/ a dueling system. u didn’t even try to read the thread, all of the ~5 posts was too much for u.

because this guy already covered ur trolling, saying it should be an option u simply have disabled if u don’t want to duel

Ash ketchum.2051:

….. But yeah, in case you dont want to get spammed by fanboys wanting to duel with you there should be a function disabling duelling. ( like the dance thingy or smth, so people can see if you’re up for duelling).

trolls will be trolls. i can’t keep u from trolling threads (or a duel system). its something that is going to happen, but saying no one should have the ability to comment in threads (or duel in game) because there are going to be trolls isn’t fair to the people who want to have constructive conversations in forums (or duel because they like it/are bored in hotm/whatever)

Jaxom.7310:

Zietlogik.6208:

*types /Challenge *Player1
*Ctrl-C
*Follows *Player1 around
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines

There just needs to be dedicated dueling areas, I suggested they use the old Lion’s Arch courtyard and turn it into an arena, it is already 1/2 way there anyways.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/LA-Statue-Area-Arena/first#post5082508

The area with the sand is already set up with a confined area + a gate, and on the opposite side of the piazza is an area that could be turned into the exact same thing.

i guess u just came here to troll, just like ur post suggests other people would w/ a dueling system. u didn’t even try to read the thread, all of the ~5 posts was too much for u.

because this guy already covered ur trolling, saying it should be an option u simply have disabled if u don’t want to duel

Ash ketchum.2051:

….. But yeah, in case you dont want to get spammed by fanboys wanting to duel with you there should be a function disabling duelling. ( like the dance thingy or smth, so people can see if you’re up for duelling).

trolls will be trolls. i can’t keep u from trolling threads (or a duel system). its something that is going to happen, but saying no one should have the ability to comment in threads (or duel in game) because there are going to be trolls isn’t fair to the people who want to have constructive conversations in forums (or duel because they like it/are bored in hotm/whatever)

Duels end with player a because player b is done dueling, other player a is salty decides to spam challenge player b player b is now unable to toggle off accepting duels due to challenge spam. Could fix with hot key for toggling though. Yeah other games have the same system implemented pretty easily… DCUO has a system like that.

Jaxom.7310:

Zietlogik.6208:

*types /Challenge *Player1
*Ctrl-C
*Follows *Player1 around
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines

There just needs to be dedicated dueling areas, I suggested they use the old Lion’s Arch courtyard and turn it into an arena, it is already 1/2 way there anyways.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/LA-Statue-Area-Arena/first#post5082508

The area with the sand is already set up with a confined area + a gate, and on the opposite side of the piazza is an area that could be turned into the exact same thing.

i guess u just came here to troll, just like ur post suggests other people would w/ a dueling system. u didn’t even try to read the thread, all of the ~5 posts was too much for u.

because this guy already covered ur trolling, saying it should be an option u simply have disabled if u don’t want to duel

Ash ketchum.2051:

….. But yeah, in case you dont want to get spammed by fanboys wanting to duel with you there should be a function disabling duelling. ( like the dance thingy or smth, so people can see if you’re up for duelling).

trolls will be trolls. i can’t keep u from trolling threads (or a duel system). its something that is going to happen, but saying no one should have the ability to comment in threads (or duel in game) because there are going to be trolls isn’t fair to the people who want to have constructive conversations in forums (or duel because they like it/are bored in hotm/whatever)

You are right, I did not read every subsequent reply, I read the OP, and that is the reply to that, get over it buddy.

If it is relevant info, from the OP, it should be in the OP.

What if they just turn the Obrin Ruins in the PvP lobby into a dueling arena? As far as I know, there’s no way in and nothing of interest inside. I personally don’t want to deal with particle effects from the number of people waiting for q’s everywhere in the lobby, but if it were restricted to the Ruins I’d be game.

Gimme.

Zietlogik.6208:

*types /Challenge *Player1
*Ctrl-C
*Follows *Player1 around
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines

There just needs to be dedicated dueling areas, I suggested they use the old Lion’s Arch courtyard and turn it into an arena, it is already 1/2 way there anyways.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/LA-Statue-Area-Arena/first#post5082508

The area with the sand is already set up with a confined area + a gate, and on the opposite side of the piazza is an area that could be turned into the exact same thing.

Okay, i dont really see this as an issue. let the person challenging only sent maximum 1 duel request et voila… And look for example at the runescape duel arena/ or just the trade system.. People can spam you aswell, nobody really gives a kitten about it right?

But yeah, everywhere might not be optimal. But i’d would be an amazing experience to be able to use the complete terrain of the game to kite/play with environment.. Like, all the dead content where not even a single lvl 80 goes would have a chance to get a duel atleast. Just so you can variate where you want to duel.

Zietlogik.6208:

*types /Challenge *Player1
*Ctrl-C
*Follows *Player1 around
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines

There just needs to be dedicated dueling areas, I suggested they use the old Lion’s Arch courtyard and turn it into an arena, it is already 1/2 way there anyways.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/LA-Statue-Area-Arena/first#post5082508

The area with the sand is already set up with a confined area + a gate, and on the opposite side of the piazza is an area that could be turned into the exact same thing.

Dude they just need to add a check-box “Accept dueling invitation” ON-OFF. It’s called programming.

Xillllix.3485:

Zietlogik.6208:

*types /Challenge *Player1
*Ctrl-C
*Follows *Player1 around
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines
*Ctrl-V + Enter
*Player Declines

There just needs to be dedicated dueling areas, I suggested they use the old Lion’s Arch courtyard and turn it into an arena, it is already 1/2 way there anyways.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/LA-Statue-Area-Arena/first#post5082508

The area with the sand is already set up with a confined area + a gate, and on the opposite side of the piazza is an area that could be turned into the exact same thing.

Dude they just need to add a check-box “Accept dueling invitation” ON-OFF. It’s called programming.

ur the man. im gonna add this to the original thread.

nightblood.7910:

I generally dont like duels. They really have no meaning to real fights in WvW or PvP as I Play a thief and the element of surprise is part of my playstyle. (especially WvW where thieves can one shot each other for the most part) And if you try to duel other thieves, its almost always them trying to jack you while you are bowing. I pretty much gave up on duels myself but sure as heck do not run from a 1v1 in PvP. As that is where I am mostly.

With that said, the reason I dont agree with it, is that its just another grieving model to this game that is not needed. Especially the “public” duel. If the person does not accept the duel it will be public shaming for not doing so and so on.. If they do and get beat, it will be even worse.

no ones cares if you dont like dueling because dueling is optional.

dont like dueling? dont duel.

The only defense against not implementing dueling is the “greifing anti-fun” defense.

Put a block duel option in the menu
Allow duels outside of cities in all zones (if you duel where you can get rekt then you die to mobs thats your problem.)
Disable duels when under the effects of an event ( you know that thing in the upper right that pops up when in range of an event, but not including hearts)

It gives players something to do when LFG or waiting for world bosses to start. It gives players reasons to go to unvisited maps to find cool dueling spots

It allows people to test new builds on friends and practice without having to pay for a private server (which isn’t a onetime payment its continuous…)

The block feature exists for blocking players, if someone is being a kitten just block them and move on, Its a game… which brings me to my point its a game why should we exclude features to keep from players having a SMALL chance at getting their feelings hurt…

Also while were asking for the moon lets have:
mode as PVE or SPVP (calls gear standardization and pulls your current pvp template)
Mode for teams up to 3 for wvw practice up to 10v10v10 cause why not?
Allow unfair matchmaking 1v2 etc cause some people want to practice 1v2
Build templates (seriously your first game had this why does this not exist)

All seriousness though there is no reason not to allow dueling in open world, its such a beautiful world with so many awesome places that could be dueled at.

they won’t do it, if they put duelling in , nobody will play spvp…

acceptable on the condition that its only possible in a specific area in heart of the mists.
PvE specs are not anywhere near fair for dueling.

Benefits:

+Players will learn and get better at PvP (learn mechanics, professions, how to handle different fights in duels)
+Fun
+Different environments to PvP in
+Most mmorpgs have it
+WvW dueling is only available vs. players you cannot talk to (without exploiting the /invite or /block feature to find out who they are), and offers a much smaller pool of players.
+It is already very popular in this game even though it is given no support.

Drawbacks:
-Some people will be upset, claiming it takes away from the environment in PvE or WvW, or that they will be shamed for losing or declining duels
-Competes with Custom Arena sales…haha

I am in favor.

We already have a place to duel, it’s called Obsidian Sanctum, all the have to do is make the instance mega server.

While I have no objection to open world dueling, I do not think everyone will be happy with that, and we must respect that. The fact is, open world dueling can impact other unwilling players, so measures need to be taken to prevent this.

The best way I think this can be done is my having a designated area in the Heart of the Mists, where players can invite others to a 1v1 duel. Any players outside this area cannot be invited.

Technically, we already have the custome arenas, so we can set up dueling there, but because you need to pay for arena time and you need to go through the process of inviting people into your arena, it’s not exactly easily accessible. So having a free, easily accessible area you can go to and quickly invite people for dueling, would be a great addition in my opinion, without it impacting on those who do not want it.

ABSOLUTELY AGREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
make acceptbox and everything is fine

Okay. As a response to most of these reactions.

>it’s not fair for pve specs
Well… If you dont want to duel with pve specs. Dont do it? But if someone challenges you to see how some build works..there is no reason anymore to go to pvp/get an arena… You van just do it where you want

>make an area to duel
Well… This takes a big part of the fun away. The fun about duelling everywhere is the diversity in environment. In the current pvp maps all the proper kiting/teleport spots are widely known already. It wouldnt even still call it skillful parcouring. But in a new environment. This will really test the potential of the player. Also this will give life to a lot of ‘dead’ maps!

>how about this in wvw
Well. This is kind of weird. In my opinion it shouldnt be in wvw because you should be united fighting other servers. And this will make the server full with Players not contributing to the wvw (dont shoot me for this opinion tough)

>it will separate the pvp Q’s
Well. Not really. Most people like to duel inbetween Q’s and the people who actually duel will do it as they want. Will it be in an arena (to be alone/or practice on points) or in the open field ( to practice in all areas for individual skill )

Go and enter a private server in sPvP.

/thread