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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

hey i like this new reward system – looks rly cool

but have 1 question

i have to do ALL dungeon modes again? cause i made them all on 1 char and rly dont wanna do them again^^

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Posted by: Josh Davis.6015

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You will need to run the dungeons in story mode AFTER the update to permanently unlock the tracks.

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

ooooooh man^^

and can i unlock all in first week or only when this special dungeon track is for 2 weeks active?

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

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Story mode is peasy, kinda wished it was retroactive based on your dungeon achievements (it can tell if you have run story right?!)

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Posted by: butch.8136

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You can unlock all if you play story mode.

Or you can progress it every time it comes back on the biweekly schedule.

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Posted by: glaphen.5230

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You will need to run the dungeons in story mode AFTER the update to permanently unlock the tracks.

I already have Dungeon Master, why force me to play the long story modes again?

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Posted by: butch.8136

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^ They don’t force you.

Just wait till the reward track you want comes up.

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Posted by: Jinx.7258

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You will need to run the dungeons in story mode AFTER the update to permanently unlock the tracks.

Why would I run them again when I’ve already done them on at least 1 character + several additional alts for specific dungeons. Story modes rewards are beyond terrible and after a point players will have trouble finding others to do them as they are not the main paths that are being done regularly.

You are wasting our time for lvl 70 gold mask

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Posted by: EverythingEnds.4261

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You will need to run the dungeons in story mode AFTER the update to permanently unlock the tracks.

Please no.

Why doesn’t it count if you did this already once?
Why do you force pvp players into PvE?

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Posted by: Tanith.5264

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That’s okay, I like story mode.

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Posted by: clint.5681

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Im glad I dont really need any dungeon armors because having to rerun them again just isnt happening.

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Posted by: Hugh Norfolk

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Sorry we weren’t super clear on how this whole thing works so let me try and clear it up here!

The dungeon tracks are on a 2 week rotations and only 1 will be active if you don’t unlock them. When a track you were currently progress

So when the 4/15 build hits you will need to complete the story mode of the corresponding dungeon reward track you wish to unlock permanently on your account. By completing the story mode on any character you will be able to run the repeatable dungeon reward track whenever you so please forever.

Even if you have run the dungeon in the past you will need to run it again after 4/15 to unlock the reward track. The reason for this is to put both PvE and PvP players on the same level once the 4/15 build hits. So PvP only players wouldn’t be the only people that need to run the dungeons on 4/15.

You can unlock the dungeons at anytime AFTER 4/15 regardless of where it is in dungeon track rotation. So on 4/15 if you complete the story mode of all the dungeons you will have all 8 repeatable dungeon rewards tracks available to you day one.

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Posted by: EverythingEnds.4261

EverythingEnds.4261

The reason for this is to put both PvE and PvP players on the same level once the 4/15 build hits. So PvP only players wouldn’t be the only people that need to run the dungeons on 4/15.

But PvP only players are still the ones who have to level & gear a char up to the required level for the story modes.

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Posted by: butch.8136

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^or every 2 weeks a dungeon reward track becomes available and you progress it in that time-span.

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Posted by: hooma.9642

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Sorry we weren’t super clear on how this whole thing works so let me try and clear it up here!

The dungeon tracks are on a 2 week rotations and only 1 will be active if you don’t unlock them. When a track you were currently progress

So when the 4/15 build hits you will need to complete the story mode of the corresponding dungeon reward track you wish to unlock permanently on your account. By completing the story mode on any character you will be able to run the repeatable dungeon reward track whenever you so please forever.

Even if you have run the dungeon in the past you will need to run it again after 4/15 to unlock the reward track. The reason for this is to put both PvE and PvP players on the same level once the 4/15 build hits. So PvP only players wouldn’t be the only people that need to run the dungeons on 4/15.

You can unlock the dungeons at anytime AFTER 4/15 regardless of where it is in dungeon track rotation. So on 4/15 if you complete the story mode of all the dungeons you will have all 8 repeatable dungeon rewards tracks available to you day one.

yeah and pvp only players magically teleport to the spawn-point before a dungeon to enter it?

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

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That is terrible. I dont want to run those story modes again. They take forever and terrible rewards.

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Posted by: Sarrs.4831

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That is terrible. I dont want to run those story modes again. They take forever and terrible rewards.

As I understand, you only need to do them if you want to unlock the reward chain permanently- And the main reason you’d want to do that would be to get several successive boxes of the same set of armor. I can think of a very narrow set of circumstances in which you’d lose out, here; you want to get a dungeon set, don’t want to do the relevant dungeon, and haven’t already gotten the stuff unlocked in PvP.

It does kinda suck that it won’t tell that you’ve done them based on achievements, though. They knocked down fractal levels for a reason- 30-50 is different from the old fractal levelling. There’s no new actual content in story modes.

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Posted by: MarkPhilips.5169

MarkPhilips.5169

Hugh, but if i unlock all story mode dng can i get progression on all dng bars at the same time or i can activate only 1 at time and doing my progression only in one?

I don’t know if i was clear enough lol.

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Posted by: Hugh Norfolk

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Hugh, but if i unlock all story mode dng can i get progression on all dng bars at the same time or i can activate only 1 at time and doing my progression only in one?

I don’t know if i was clear enough lol.

I believe what you are asking is if you can progress all the reward tracks at the same time. You will only ever be able to progrekitteneward track at a time ever, but by unlocking the dungeon reward tracks you will have access to all the dungeon rewards on your account.

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Posted by: MarkPhilips.5169

MarkPhilips.5169

k, got it.

Thx.

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Posted by: Iason Evan.3806

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That is terrible. I dont want to run those story modes again. They take forever and terrible rewards.

just do the active track of the week then or wait til the one you want is active? that’s what I am doing. if you already pvp that much you already have all the armor or you bought the ones you wanted with glory. same for weapons.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

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I was ok but not happy about this when I thought that I would have to run the few story modes I hadn’t done. Now I have to redo them all. There is next to no rewards doing a story mode a 2nd time. They are longer than paths (generally). They usually have a lot of players that don’t have a clue what they are doing using them as sort of “intro” dungeons. Why you hurt me like this? I thought we was friends

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Posted by: domness.6719

domness.6719

I was ok but not happy about this when I thought that I would have to run the few story modes I hadn’t done. Now I have to redo them all. There is next to no rewards doing a story mode a 2nd time. They are longer than paths (generally). They usually have a lot of players that don’t have a clue what they are doing using them as sort of “intro” dungeons. Why you hurt me like this? I thought we was friends

QQ. You don’t have to run the story mode again at all if you don’t want to.

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

Flumek.9043

Im a main pvper, but ive done all the dungeon storys at the begining of my gw2 career.

I was totaly against it, thinking if its clear to see from achievements, why the hell do i need to do it again?

Now that you said it, most PvP guys dont and it would be a 99% unfair start for PvEers. Fully support it and great thinking of whoever thought this through.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

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I was ok but not happy about this when I thought that I would have to run the few story modes I hadn’t done. Now I have to redo them all. There is next to no rewards doing a story mode a 2nd time. They are longer than paths (generally). They usually have a lot of players that don’t have a clue what they are doing using them as sort of “intro” dungeons. Why you hurt me like this? I thought we was friends

QQ. You don’t have to run the story mode again at all if you don’t want to.

Yea instead of wasting my time with not getting the rewards that I want in PvE I can limit the choice of rewards I can get in PvP.

Some people only play PvP… they won’t have the PvE gear. They’ll need people to carry them through.

All of this is full of win -.-

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

more questions i have^^

1. will there be an “universal” track too? I mean something like giving only craftingmats, obsishards and so on – NO ARMORS

cause someday everyone has all dungeon armors and dont wanna farm them again

2. I dont heared anything in stream or read in blogpost about KARMA – will there be no karma in pvp as a reward? (maby Karma potions or something)

3. My english is not so good but in stream it sounded like when we have this armor we can get it as a skin to sell it – so we can sell than the dungeon armors we don´t need in Tradepost? I bet i understand this wrong but i have to ask^^

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Posted by: Zirith.6429

Zirith.6429

more questions i have^^

1. will there be an “universal” track too? I mean something like giving only craftingmats, obsishards and so on – NO ARMORS

cause someday everyone has all dungeon armors and dont wanna farm them again

2. I dont heared anything in stream or read in blogpost about KARMA – will there be no karma in pvp as a reward? (maby Karma potions or something)

3. My english is not so good but in stream it sounded like when we have this armor we can get it as a skin to sell it – so we can sell than the dungeon armors we don´t need in Tradepost? I bet i understand this wrong but i have to ask^^

The zone tracks will have no dungeon tokens and just loot bags based on the region. (chance of rares/mats)

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Posted by: MarkPhilips.5169

MarkPhilips.5169

more questions i have^^

1. will there be an “universal” track too? I mean something like giving only craftingmats, obsishards and so on – NO ARMORS

cause someday everyone has all dungeon armors and dont wanna farm them again

2. I dont heared anything in stream or read in blogpost about KARMA – will there be no karma in pvp as a reward? (maby Karma potions or something)

3. My english is not so good but in stream it sounded like when we have this armor we can get it as a skin to sell it – so we can sell than the dungeon armors we don´t need in Tradepost? I bet i understand this wrong but i have to ask^^

I agree, it would be interesting other tracks dedicated to other things, for example ingots for legendary or t6 mats stacks like final rewards.

Other question

1- what about t1/t2/t3 cultural tracks? They are in planning? Is it possible to unlock the track?

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Posted by: DonRobeez.3560

DonRobeez.3560

Don’t mind the story modes in general.
But Arah… that’s a complete borefest…
Spamming 2 to kill the main GW2 villain.

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Posted by: Oulov.7913

Oulov.7913

Don’t mind the story modes in general.
But Arah… that’s a complete borefest…
Spamming 2 to kill the main GW2 villain.

Agree completely on this one. Shameful and disrespectful for Gw2 fans.

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Posted by: Stonish.7532

Stonish.7532

I just dont get one thing… Why Dungeon Tracks have a PvP prefix in the name? I think I missed sth…

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Posted by: kerona.3465

kerona.3465

PvP players won’t be doing dungeons anyways…

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

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The first time an account does a dungeon story, they should give 100 of that dungeon’s token, then unlock explorable mode for the account.

That way more people would be into making them story dungeons at least once, and less people would have to worry about remember which characters had each dungeon unlocked.

Many people will go for story to get the PvP track unlocked, but not nearly as many as if there was a decent first time reward.

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Posted by: Domo.1798

Domo.1798

This seems like a really terrible idea. PvP only players don’t want to run dungeons that’s why they’re PvP only. Otherwise we’d call them something like: Players who prefer to PvP but also occasionally branch out and participate in PvE content.

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Posted by: Teulius.8752

Teulius.8752

The reason for this is to put both PvE and PvP players on the same level once the 4/15 build hits. So PvP only players wouldn’t be the only people that need to run the dungeons on 4/15.

Leave us pve players with our advantage. I mean, so what if the pvp players are left alone and forced to run through the story dungeons, do you really think they are not capable of completing story dungeons? Stop dragging other players into doing unnecessary homework. If you leave pve players with this advantage, they will have another reason to go to pvp without making it an additional hassle to go through all the dungeons again.

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

The reason for this is to put both PvE and PvP players on the same level once the 4/15 build hits. So PvP only players wouldn’t be the only people that need to run the dungeons on 4/15.

Leave us pve players with our advantage. I mean, so what if the pvp players are left alone and forced to run through the story dungeons, do you really think they are not capable of completing story dungeons? Stop dragging other players into doing unnecessary homework. If you leave pve players with this advantage, they will have another reason to go to pvp without making it an additional hassle to go through all the dungeons again.

I… I can’t believe I just read this.

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Posted by: Kupper.8074

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I am smelling Fractured all over again. Who has the “Never forget” signature?

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Posted by: morrolan.9608

morrolan.9608

This is crap, you already record who has done story modes just give them the credit. You guys just do not learn from your mistakes do you.

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Posted by: Nemesis.2019

Nemesis.2019

Anet hasn’t changed, once again PvP screw PvE players, feels like GW1 all over again, it’s not the PvE community’s fault that PvP players never played PvE, they should have venture outside of PvP and see the entire game, only game dev I know that sides with the minority and screws the majority.

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Posted by: Spitu.8657

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The reason for this is to put both PvE and PvP players on the same level once the 4/15 build hits. So PvP only players wouldn’t be the only people that need to run the dungeons on 4/15.

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

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[…]

He meant “start from the same point”.

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Posted by: Latinkuro.9420

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You will need to run the dungeons in story mode AFTER the update to permanently unlock the tracks.

^^ this is again what kind of kittenes me off !
why not simply require either to run the story dungeon if you do not have dungeon master title but…………………

if you do have dungeon master title you do NOT need run the kitten story dungeon to unlock the reward tracks.

This is the kind of thing that gives value to such titles but NOOOOOOOOOO !

go run that kitten again is what you say !!!!!

come on !!!!!!

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

PvP players get tons of skins already unlocked. PvE players start from scratch.

To balance this, PvE players should not have to do story modes again to unlock stuffs if they have already done so.

People that did both PvE and PvP get a little bit of each.

Seems far more fair to me.

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Posted by: morrolan.9608

morrolan.9608

PvP players get tons of skins already unlocked. PvE players start from scratch.

To balance this, PvE players should not have to do story modes again to unlock stuffs if they have already done so.

People that did both PvE and PvP get a little bit of each.

Seems far more fair to me.

And me, anet wheres the fairness in your proposed system?

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Posted by: Piscore.6934

Piscore.6934

You will need to run the dungeons in story mode AFTER the update to permanently unlock the tracks.

Arah Story Mode again… oh my…

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Posted by: Zylonite.5913

Zylonite.5913

My excitement for this patch just went from zero to zero….That is all I have to say….

Betrayed by the gods of ANet

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Posted by: Viking Jorun.5413

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So will players who have their Dungeon Master titles unlocked need to run all story paths as well?

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Posted by: FearedbytheGods.8617

FearedbytheGods.8617

Does ANet look down on veteran players?

Why the constant delete/reset/repeat you make us go through?

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

relax guys – dont bring always this toxic talk in all threads itdont make you looking cool its simply annoying

And i like this system + understand why they do this with dungeon modes. So PVP Players can see atleast the Story to all Tracks before just grind it. Its best Way to implement Story in PVP.
Noone force you guyz to do this paths. You can play the free patch per 2 weeks

and ye i have dungeon master too but who cares – on 15th i run 1-2 storys again and be happy bout the new things

seriously guys see the good things in this patch and trie not always to find bad points. Thats so gw2guru

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Posted by: Zlociutki.9165

Zlociutki.9165

Sorry we weren’t super clear on how this whole thing works so let me try and clear it up here!

The dungeon tracks are on a 2 week rotations and only 1 will be active if you don’t unlock them. When a track you were currently progress

So when the 4/15 build hits you will need to complete the story mode of the corresponding dungeon reward track you wish to unlock permanently on your account. By completing the story mode on any character you will be able to run the repeatable dungeon reward track whenever you so please forever.

Even if you have run the dungeon in the past you will need to run it again after 4/15 to unlock the reward track. The reason for this is to put both PvE and PvP players on the same level once the 4/15 build hits. So PvP only players wouldn’t be the only people that need to run the dungeons on 4/15.

You can unlock the dungeons at anytime AFTER 4/15 regardless of where it is in dungeon track rotation. So on 4/15 if you complete the story mode of all the dungeons you will have all 8 repeatable dungeon rewards tracks available to you day one.

Rewards and tracks are only for PvP players or for both PvE and PvP.