Duo queue too strong, not enough punishment

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Posted by: Blackwyn.8127

Blackwyn.8127

So after watching PvP streams for several hours after the season started. I noticed that the rating won / lost was practically the same regardless of you playing solo or duo in ranked.
Lots of the top players realized that and then started to duo queue. Having strong synergy, voice communication were a huge advantage as a duo.

Watching top players that were strictly solo queuing having a big disadvantage vs these teams.
Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying duo queue is wrong, nor that solo queue can’t get to the top on his own. But that if you decide to duo queue and take full advantage of its perks, the punishment should be a lot harsher than what I currently saw in the streams.

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Posted by: Konakona.4130

Konakona.4130

First ppl complained about full premades and how it is “unfair”, anet removed it.

Now ppl complaining about duo queue and how “unfair” it is. Maybe anet will remove it too.

Then ppl will complain that they cannot win against stronger opponents so anet replaces them with bots.

Everyone will be legendary and top-1, yay \o/

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Posted by: rennlc.7346

rennlc.7346

In theory, everyone will eventually look at the numerous perks for making friends and view at as a reasonable course of action rather than a source of injustice. In theory…

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Posted by: Blackwyn.8127

Blackwyn.8127

First ppl complained about full premades and how it is “unfair”, anet removed it.

Now ppl complaining about duo queue and how “unfair” it is. Maybe anet will remove it too.

Then ppl will complain that they cannot win against stronger opponents so anet replaces them with bots.

Everyone will be legendary and top-1, yay \o/

As I’ve said, duo queue is fine. But you don’t get punished hard enough for the advantages it provides from what I’ve seen.

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Anet will moderate a player’s network history to discover habbits of interest to use in matchmaking’s algorithm.
In theory..

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

Flumek.9043

It is a valid point.

But it is very minor and should be ignored for overall health and growth of the game.

We now have a working , ingame visible ranking system.
The esport pros have to organize skrims to compete for money.
The high mid end now has incentive to play and improve. EVERY TEAM STARTS WITH A DUO OR TRIO. The ammount of friend requests, poeple actualy grouping AND tryharding has increased enormously.

All this positives faaaaar outweight “the overall 3% higher winrate per teammate that anet once mentioned”.
If you had to choose between incentive for poeple to group up and learn to play better together VS. you having 3% higher MMR in a pure soloq salt que…

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Posted by: Blackwyn.8127

Blackwyn.8127

It is a valid point.

But it is very minor and should be ignored for overall health and growth of the game.

We now have a working , ingame visible ranking system.
The esport pros have to organize skrims to compete for money.
The high mid end now has incentive to play and improve. EVERY TEAM STARTS WITH A DUO OR TRIO. The ammount of friend requests, poeple actualy grouping AND tryharding has increased enormously.

All this positives faaaaar outweight “the overall 3% higher winrate per teammate that anet once mentioned”.
If you had to choose between incentive for poeple to group up and learn to play better together VS. you having 3% higher MMR in a pure soloq salt que…

You’re right, but at the same time you’re wrong. Your points about it being healthy and overall growth of the PvP scene is very accurate and this new system is bringing lots of attention to PvP which is incredible.
But at the same time, this is suppose to be a competitive scene where people show off their skills in ranked and it should be reflected based on the ranked mode you choose.

It is true that if duo queuing gets more punishment, it will discourage the average Joe to queue up with their friends. But at the same time I feel the punishment should reflect the max potential of advantages it can provide to have a balanced ranked environment between solo and duo queue.

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

HAHAHA! Here we go again. It’s always everyone else’s fault that you’re losing, not because you or your random selection of teammates might have been bad…

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Posted by: Eagelseye.6312

Eagelseye.6312

Another troll post…such a disgrace

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

Its true that there is no real skill test without pure solo queue. Those who queue solo are still punished alot. But it doesnt matter. Duo is needed.

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

duo q is def better than solo but im ok with it. Heck this is meant to be a social game. They already got rid of team q (which I think is a good move for a casual game) but to ask for no duo or to punish duo is wrong.

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

Flumek.9043

Another argument that may cheer you up:

A duo can only win 1 node at a time. You choose either coordinated focus vs coordinated map rotation. A trio is needed to dominate 2/3 of map.

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Posted by: onevsone.2098

onevsone.2098

A good compromise could be give more ladder points for win if u’re solo instead of duo (and less points lost if you lose).

Sounds fair to me, more risk, more reward.

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Posted by: Razor.9872

Razor.9872

First ppl complained about full premades and how it is “unfair”, anet removed it.

Now ppl complaining about duo queue and how “unfair” it is. Maybe anet will remove it too.

Then ppl will complain that they cannot win against stronger opponents so anet replaces them with bots.

Everyone will be legendary and top-1, yay \o/

As I’ve said, duo queue is fine. But you don’t get punished hard enough for the advantages it provides from what I’ve seen.

Wait…

Are you suggesting duo-queue’rs should be punished?

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Posted by: Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

>Discord is free

>Skype is free

>need to find litterally 1 player and become good aqaintances, not even friends, heck virtual aqaintances.

>Teaming up doesn’t drastically increase your winrate

>player with lower mmr in duo que drastically increases rating, higher rating player loses more

community: nah, too hard, duo que needs more punishment.