Guild Wars 2

https://twitter.com/ESLGW2/status/849265788582338561

https://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/news/270547/

rest in peace

Well, at least they can focus more on the game i guess?

I can’t honestly say I’m sorry to hear it. Hopefully, ANET will make decisions that are unaffected by eSports concerns or eSports players.

Ithilwen.1529:

I can’t honestly say I’m sorry to hear it. Hopefully, ANET will make decisions that are unaffected by eSports concerns or eSports players.

They never made any decisions based on eSports so idk.

Sad to see this.

Crinn.7864:

Ithilwen.1529:

I can’t honestly say I’m sorry to hear it. Hopefully, ANET will make decisions that are unaffected by eSports concerns or eSports players.

They never made any decisions based on eSports so idk.

They balanced an MMO on the concept of 5 people holding a node for years.

Ithilwen.1529:

I can’t honestly say I’m sorry to hear it. Hopefully, ANET will make decisions that are unaffected by eSports concerns or eSports players.

You make it seem as if their decisions were driven by a non-existent venue of competition.

Their decisions have been poor and driven by only one thing and that’s lack of resources.

Rip gw2 esports

If only they listened to thé community This could have been avoided.

ded esportz is ded

XgamerXgodX.9617:

Crinn.7864:

Ithilwen.1529:

I can’t honestly say I’m sorry to hear it. Hopefully, ANET will make decisions that are unaffected by eSports concerns or eSports players.

They never made any decisions based on eSports so idk.

They balanced an MMO on the concept of 5 people holding a node for years.

+1

Resources wasted on this failed venture.

Expected, but sad to see nonetheless.

Finally this stupid glorified marketing gimmick has come to an end. Perhaps now anet will spend the resources on better balance or more fun game modes akin to random arenas from gw1.
They cannot use the excuse of splitting the player base anymore since there is no player base at all at this point for pvp, and they cannot use the excuse of not balancing the game due to some up an comming pro league, so now they can make more than 3 balance patches per year

You all will be welcomed in gw1’s pvp

Crinn.7864:

Ithilwen.1529:

I can’t honestly say I’m sorry to hear it. Hopefully, ANET will make decisions that are unaffected by eSports concerns or eSports players.

They never made any decisions based on eSports so idk.

You honestly believe that?

Good. Hopefully now they will focus on PvP balance for the average player, instead of ESL level players.

lol. Happy to see this.
You Break The Balance. The Balance Break You.

Why are any of you happy about this? Basically giving up on competitive pvp… and you are all rejoicing….. sad.

You are surprised? I’ve seen this coming since November:(

Nihevil.8024:

https://twitter.com/ESLGW2/status/849265788582338561

I hope Helseth dont see it

And still no official statement from Anet. Nice “communication”.

Killthehealersffs.8940:

Nihevil.8024:

https://twitter.com/ESLGW2/status/849265788582338561

I hope Helseth dont see it

Hope he commits sudoku

NeXeD.3042:

Why are any of you happy about this? Basically giving up on competitive pvp… and you are all rejoicing….. sad.

Because all the “bois” wanted gw2 pvp to balance around esl pro leagues not around above average players… also they were forcing it way too bad gw2 is a fun game but its player base is not for esl.

Do u like tabletennis?

- and do you watch competitions on TV?

NeXeD.3042:

Why are any of you happy about this? Basically giving up on competitive pvp… and you are all rejoicing….. sad.

We give them so many suggestions , comments , complains …. time by time.
but they Reply us Noting , Change Noting and take per 3 months to keep on their excel sheet working make no meaning modify that I can complete in a hour. lol . kitten that!

Anyways, they choose the right way, a game cannot running like that – DEV no any communication with players. So I am very Happy!

See the pic.
We need “balance”
We need “population”
We need “number”
We need “new blood”
Then we can see the “good environment”.

OriOri.8724:

Good. Hopefully now they will focus on PvP balance for the average player, instead of ESL level players.

My thoughts, exactly.

Who have MMO + MOBA in the market? GW2! you are the only! But….
Anyways. GW2 go well or not. I don’t care. This game is 4 year old and dying, they are too late and missed many chances.

NeXeD.3042:

Why are any of you happy about this? Basically giving up on competitive pvp… and you are all rejoicing….. sad.

Because PvP has been balanced around ESL teams for a long time, despite so few people playing at that level. A lot of classes are balanced around having only 1 on the team, some classes are balanced around having ridiculous team support that isn’t guaranteed in regular matches. The maps themselves are designed around teams that can effectively communicate, etc etc etc.

PvP has been bleeding players for a long time now, and its because ANet has tried to turn it into an ESL sport. Hopefully now they will start making PvP better, and in a while it will be in a good enough state that they can go back to ESL

Should’ve hired balance experts… Or PvP experts

OriOri.8724:

NeXeD.3042:

Why are any of you happy about this? Basically giving up on competitive pvp… and you are all rejoicing….. sad.

Because PvP has been balanced around ESL teams for a long time, despite so few people playing at that level. A lot of classes are balanced around having only 1 on the team, some classes are balanced around having ridiculous team support that isn’t guaranteed in regular matches. The maps themselves are designed around teams that can effectively communicate, etc etc etc.

PvP has been bleeding players for a long time now, and its because ANet has tried to turn it into an ESL sport. Hopefully now they will start making PvP better, and in a while it will be in a good enough state that they can go back to ESL

So much this, kitten . So please ANET now it’s a good time to change for the better.

Do you really think, balancing arround people that don’t even understand half of the things they are talking about and that have completely different opinions on what should get changed, often based on anecdotal experiences and lack of knowledge, will somehow improve the game?

We would probably end up without any dmg skills, because apparently everything that can kill other players must be op accoding to someone …

OriOri.8724:

Good. Hopefully now they will focus on PvP balance for the average player, instead of ESL level players.

+1

I wonder why ESL was running 1v1 and 2v2 “tournament’s” for so long?

Still it’s not a surprise considering all competition left.

I just think that ultimately this is the result of them not making enough money to retain and hire new and competent talent. They have probably switched their priorities to the next expansion and abandoned less successful areas of the game until they can get revenue up.

Anet should have kept team queue and hire a new balance team.

Anyway, this is fully deserved.

fumbii.3582:

And still no official statement from Anet. Nice “communication”.

At this point all they can say is “sorry we couldn’t address the issues”.

OriOri.8724:

Good. Hopefully now they will focus on PvP balance for the average player, instead of ESL level players.

What’s wrong with people in this community deliberately demanding developers to listen to players who genuenly have worse mehanical understanding of the game? What kind of logic do you creatures operate on?

Grimheart.2853:

OriOri.8724:

Good. Hopefully now they will focus on PvP balance for the average player, instead of ESL level players.

What’s wrong with people in this community deliberately demanding developers to listen to players who genuenly have worse mehanical understanding of the game? What kind of logic do you creatures operate on?

And how narrow-minded can you be?

Xillllix.3485:

fumbii.3582:

And still no official statement from Anet. Nice “communication”.

At this point all they can say is “sorry we couldn’t address the issues”.

Well they had 6 months to say that. Now they will sound like kittens whatever they say I guess saying nothing is the best option.

I doubt we will get any official comment from Anet on the forums, but I wonder now does this mean they are going to completely ignore PvP now and all its issues, or will they update the game to completely remove PvP from it.

Not surprising at all. The ESL venture started at a poor time in the game’s balance and competitive structure (HoT balance, changes/removal of ranked/team/solo/leaderboards, etc.), and continued throughout it.

Maybe more troubling for me is the absolute lack of direction with the game now. We really don’t get updates anymore of what is being worked on in any areas of the game in the long term. Yes, we get small “living story” patches, “new” competitive seasons with minor adjustments and balances, and rehashed festivals. We are all guessing there is an expansion pack coming, but it has been about 1.5 years since HoT, when will we hear about this? It has been over a year since Colin left, and I know Mike’s policy is not to talk until the product is ready. But how about talking at all? To not lose the interest of your consumers?

And I don’t think the game’s current state is due to lack of market demand for this type of game. But rather due to the continued fumbling on ArenaNet’s part. As much as people laugh about the words “pvp” and “mmorpg” used together, I really think it is in demand, and Gw2 (thanks to the ease of entry/gear availability/etc) should be in the best position to make it work. Very hard to remain optimistic though…

NeXeD.3042:

Why are any of you happy about this? Basically giving up on competitive pvp… and you are all rejoicing….. sad.

It was never competitive to begin with. If you want competitiveness then you playing in a wrong game. Gw is a casual game and these news are the final nail in the coffin.

Celtus.8456:

Not surprising at all. The ESL venture started at a poor time in the game’s balance and competitive structure (HoT balance, changes/removal of ranked/team/solo/leaderboards, etc.), and continued throughout it.

Maybe more troubling for me is the absolute lack of direction with the game now. We really don’t get updates anymore of what is being worked on in any areas of the game in the long term. Yes, we get small “living story” patches, “new” competitive seasons with minor adjustments and balances, and rehashed festivals. We are all guessing there is an expansion pack coming, but it has been about 1.5 years since HoT, when will we hear about this? It has been over a year since Colin left, and I know Mike’s policy is not to talk until the product is ready. But how about talking at all? To not lose the interest of your consumers?

And I don’t think the game’s current state is due to lack of market demand for this type of game. But rather due to the continued fumbling on ArenaNet’s part. As much as people laugh about the words “pvp” and “mmorpg” used together, I really think it is in demand, and Gw2 (thanks to the ease of entry/gear availability/etc) should be in the best position to make it work. Very hard to remain optimistic though…

I’m interested to see if ESO’s upcoming battleground mode will make it into ESL or if it will have the same balance issues that came to ruin GW2 pvp.

Celtus.8456:

Maybe more troubling for me is the absolute lack of direction with the game now. We really don’t get updates anymore of what is being worked on in any areas of the game in the long term. Yes, we get small “living story” patches, “new” competitive seasons with minor adjustments and balances, and rehashed festivals. We are all guessing there is an expansion pack coming, but it has been about 1.5 years since HoT, when will we hear about this? It has been over a year since Colin left, and I know Mike’s policy is not to talk until the product is ready. But how about talking at all? To not lose the interest of your consumers?

Basically this. I like the idea of not showing something too early and then let people wait for too long, but it’s really about time we get to see something. Just knowing for sure that something big is coming in the following weeks/months would certainly help the overall motivation of the playerbase.

i think there was a rule saying there couldnt be any balance updates 2 weeks prior to any tournament. now that esl is done for, im hopeing there will be more balance updates that will keep the community happy and intrigued in the pvp scene. More frequent up dates then once a quarter (3-4month)

Sad to see… WvW is also in an atrocious state.

So it’s official – arena.net abandons pro league. Good that this is cleared up.

Unfortunately it also means that pvp community will leave gw 2 permanently. Theory crafting, skill and motivation to push yourself higher – it doesn’t have any sense now. Already Skrims have not real value ( nobody tested last 3 balance updates) and no content for 5 man premade. Knowledge of rotations and motivation of players who will want to play to just be good will decline because there is no endgame in pvp.

Ranked is already bad after this season population mass decline so season 7 will be even worse. What’s left will be population of players farming pve gear…this sound really great…

Eddbopkins.2630:

i think there was a rule saying there couldnt be any balance updates 2 weeks prior to any tournament. now that esl is done for, im hopeing there will be more balance updates that will keep the community happy and intrigued in the pvp scene. More frequent up dates then once a quarter (3-4month)

You really think, that’s what prevents them from doing more frequent updates when there hasn’t been any tournament for more than half a year?