https://youtu.be/AbSE6enEjPc – EU Go4 GW2 #49 Highlights
https://youtu.be/aO7ew6EUEfo – NA Go4 GW2 #49 Highlights
highlights from latest Go4 cup. Meta is changing at an alarming rate
. no team run 4 ele comp. But on the downside every team has 2 eles (except for one runing single ele but they seemed to be loosing). These forums where close to convincing me ele is not too strong now. But why are still teams with no eles non-existant and almost every single team thinks that 2 ele is the optimal way to win. Only way to counter 2 eles is to run 2 or more eles yourself.
Ele OP? discuss
Simply put: Superior mobility as a point holder.
Hackkz/Riggamaroll
I’ve stayed at this party entirely too long
Ele’s are not used the same at low levels as they are at high levels. They are also not even remotely ‘easy’ to play effectively. A bad ele goes down fast. A good ele just keeps you busy until the numbers are too great and then they just bounce out to another point where your team can’t kill them before they just leave again.
Consider the alternative approach to dealing with their competition as point holder- the Bunker Guard. How do you defeat a bunker guard that takes too long to kill? You simply rotate around them. They’ll never catch up and you can constantly move the fights away from them effectively negating their contribution to the team. Ele’s have no such limitation in exchange for lacking some of the sturdiness on point for rezzing and stomping and stability that a guardian might provide. In this age of “roaming bruisers” though those attributes are distributed amongst the rest of the team. You simply need someone who can get to places faster than the other team and occupy them for as long as possible without dying. There isn’t much in the game that can compete with that, and offer as much team fighting utility as DD ele does.
So why wouldn’t you take two of them in your team?
Hackkz/Riggamaroll
I’ve stayed at this party entirely too long
tl;dr – Ele is so braindead a monkey can pick it up and play it at an ESL level almost immediately.
Warrior 80 | Guardian 80 | Ranger 80 | Engineer 80 |
Thief 80 | Elementalist 80 | Mesmer 80 | Necromancer 80 | Revenant TBA
Lol its funny. When people run 4 ele, you cry op, ok. When people run 2, back to the old meta, you still cry op.
So if people run it in esl, it’s op? That would make many classes ‘op’. It’s good, no doubt, but not op.
If nobody runs it, it means it isn’t good. Aka underpowered. So if the only way to convince you that ele isn’t op is to have teams run none of them, you can remain unconvinced.
Lord Ninth \\ Champion Magus
- Primordial Legend
Semi-active.
Lol its funny. When people run 4 ele, you cry op, ok. When people run 2, back to the old meta, you still cry op.
So if people run it in esl, it’s op? That would make many classes ‘op’. It’s good, no doubt, but not op.
If nobody runs it, it means it isn’t good. Aka underpowered. So if the only way to convince you that ele isn’t op is to have teams run none of them, you can remain unconvinced.
You can expect from those “pro” Meta wannabe posters as much as you can expect from balance team.
i.e – Nothing.
Did I ever tell you, the definition, of Insanity?
Lol its funny. When people run 4 ele, you cry op, ok. When people run 2, back to the old meta, you still cry op.
So if people run it in esl, it’s op? That would make many classes ‘op’. It’s good, no doubt, but not op.
If nobody runs it, it means it isn’t good. Aka underpowered. So if the only way to convince you that ele isn’t op is to have teams run none of them, you can remain unconvinced.
It’s the most represented class to me that means its the strongest. It’s not just that its used. It’s really not hard logic.
Beg to differ. Most represented means that it’s the most versatile. No point changing to another class when this class can fulfil most of your needs.
Does not necessarily translate to strength, it’s not hard logic.
Lord Ninth \\ Champion Magus
- Primordial Legend
Semi-active.
Lol its funny. When people run 4 ele, you cry op, ok. When people run 2, back to the old meta, you still cry op.
So if people run it in esl, it’s op? That would make many classes ‘op’. It’s good, no doubt, but not op.
If nobody runs it, it means it isn’t good. Aka underpowered. So if the only way to convince you that ele isn’t op is to have teams run none of them, you can remain unconvinced.
It’s the most represented class to me that means its the strongest. It’s not just that its used. It’s really not hard logic.
Beg to differ. Most represented means that it’s the most versatile. No point changing to another class when this class can fulfil most of your needs.
Does not necessarily translate to strength, it’s not hard logic.
So ele is most represented because is is the most versatile. It is the most versatile because it fulfills all roles except stealth decapper better than most every class fills individual roles. Clearly not the strongest class.
Alright meow, where were we?
What is the point of these threads when HoT is coming out soon and the balance will be broken anyways? There will be stronger and weaker specs, maybe wait a bit to see how things are? There’s no need to overnerf ele.
Also, your problem with stacking 25 might should go to the nerf specs who can do so, too. But why aren’t you complaining about those?
Do you seriously want a situation where wtih HoT new builds will be created that can beat DD ele and Anet will say “oh nice, nothing to do here, problem solved itself” thus making the powercreep skyrocket?
I wouldn’t want to play a game where the current DD ele is considered “fine” or even weak. It would be just unplayable.
Because it already doesn’t skyrocket, right?
Wannabe eSport and balance methods are the same as always.
Not single pig given about anything and what experienced players have to say.
They even removed Profession Balance forum which somehow had a decent impact on balance and communication was so-so.
After F2P launch I expect them to give even less care for such stuff.
And with this they do not deserve even a nickel.
Did I ever tell you, the definition, of Insanity?
Lol its funny. When people run 4 ele, you cry op, ok. When people run 2, back to the old meta, you still cry op.
So if people run it in esl, it’s op? That would make many classes ‘op’. It’s good, no doubt, but not op.
If nobody runs it, it means it isn’t good. Aka underpowered. So if the only way to convince you that ele isn’t op is to have teams run none of them, you can remain unconvinced.
It’s the most represented class to me that means its the strongest. It’s not just that its used. It’s really not hard logic.
Beg to differ. Most represented means that it’s the most versatile. No point changing to another class when this class can fulfil most of your needs.
Does not necessarily translate to strength, it’s not hard logic.
So ele is most represented because is is the most versatile. It is the most versatile because it fulfills all roles except stealth decapper better than most every class fills individual roles. Clearly not the strongest class.
Incorrect. D/d ele does not fulfil burst roles either. Nor does it fulfil the hard bunker support role like the bunker guard. Which is also why you see other classes. It just happens that most of the time they only need 1 of each role specific class, hence you don’t see two thieves, or two mesmers etc most of the time.
So for example, when you have a bunker support role (guardian), stealth decapper (thieves), burst support role (mesmer, with portal), you fill the remaining slots with the most versatile class (2 ele). Like I said, clearly not the strongest class by this argument.
Lord Ninth \\ Champion Magus
- Primordial Legend
Semi-active.
Also you can ignore the jab at ele balance, those are highlights from Go4, its relevant to the forum section. Even if it is mostly eles fighting other eles, its kinda fun to watch.