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Posted by: Mrbig.8019

Mrbig.8019

At first it was just about dagger storm, but i think that a more general view about elites needing fixes is kinda deserved.

Dagger Storm

I know it’s not top priority and all, but can we please make this elite skill mor reliable offensive-wise ?

There’re times when i literally sit in my blinding field and NOT EVEN A SINGLE DAGGER will hit my enemy for the whole duration.

Ok thx plox.

Mortar

This one doesn’t need fixing, it needs total rehaul, it has no use both in pve and pvp.

Fiery Greatsword

In the past before the buff to D/D eles i would have said that there was literally no point for this elite to have such a huge CD, and since S/F eles ( the “closest” to viable eles pre-patch) had no mobility, a huge decrease in FGS CD would have helped them being viable.

Now it’s not needed anymore, still there’s no point for it to have such high CD.

Tome of Wrath

The other tome may have its uses. This one absolutely sucks.

All ranger’s ones aside spirit

Rampage as one has always been terrible. Entagling roots is a joke.

I think that the only proffs with good elites are Mes and Nec, all other professions’ elite are basically reduced to 1 maybe 2 at best, there’re so many sucky elites it’s not even funny.

If ya have future plans for balance, this should be high priority, maybe not top, but at least it should be the first thing to do for the next balance patch.

Ok thx bye

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Posted by: Steb.2571

Steb.2571

It got nerfed back in the day, because everyone used to run super glass and got mad they’d get wiped to it for playing like idiots. Condi damage was added to it, the physical damage got nerfed, and it got slowed down so it took twice as long to deal the damage. They overnerfed the kitten out of it, hence why you only ever see basi being run. Thieves guild seems pitiful these days as well. It would be really nice to see them rebalance several elites on many classes.

Dagger Storm used to be an incredible offensive ability, as it was designed to be. Even the name suited the skill perfectly. “Dagger Storm” was right; it was exactly what it sounded like, a hellish storm of daggers and death. Now it’s just a sad, sad joke, and no one is laughing.

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Posted by: Mrbig.8019

Mrbig.8019

It got nerfed back in the day, because everyone used to run super glass and got mad they’d get wiped to it for playing like idiots. Condi damage was added to it, the physical damage got nerfed, and it got slowed down so it took twice as long to deal the damage. They overnerfed the kitten out of it, hence why you only ever see basi being run. Thieves guild seems pitiful these days as well. It would be really nice to see them rebalance several elites on many classes.

Ye i should re-edit the post to make it more “universal”.

Point is dagger storm right now is silly, you can stay next to your opponent for the whole duraration of the “storm” and not even a single dagger may connect.

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Posted by: Steb.2571

Steb.2571

It got nerfed back in the day, because everyone used to run super glass and got mad they’d get wiped to it for playing like idiots. Condi damage was added to it, the physical damage got nerfed, and it got slowed down so it took twice as long to deal the damage. They overnerfed the kitten out of it, hence why you only ever see basi being run. Thieves guild seems pitiful these days as well. It would be really nice to see them rebalance several elites on many classes.

Ye i should re-edit the post to make it more “universal”.

Point is dagger storm right now is silly, you can stay next to your opponent for the whole duraration of the “storm” and not even a single dagger may connect.

One thing to note, is how whirls work, they’re pretty terrible in general, instead of aiming at your target, they actually aim where your right click “Free Cast” is aimed at. So that means if you right-clicked before using it, and had your camera facing the ground (Imagine a top down perspective), all of the daggers will actually go directly into the floor. I feel like whirl projectiles should aim at the proper height for your current target to solve the issue of “What if the intended target is above or below you”.

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Posted by: Chase.8415

Chase.8415

All of the elites you have listed are used in top 1000 PvP effectively in some way except for Mortar.

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Posted by: Teckos.1305

Teckos.1305

All of the elites you have listed are used in top 1000 PvP effectively in some way except for Mortar.

Tell me more about your top 1000 tome of wrath action.

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Posted by: Steb.2571

Steb.2571

All of the elites you have listed are used in top 1000 PvP effectively in some way except for Mortar.

Tell me more about your top 1000 tome of wrath action.

I lol’d.

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Posted by: Chase.8415

Chase.8415

All of the elites you have listed are used in top 1000 PvP effectively in some way except for Mortar.

Tell me more about your top 1000 tome of wrath action.

Okay I admit, I made a mistake; I didn’t realize he included the tome of wrath.

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Posted by: Liewec.2896

Liewec.2896

Rampage needs a spot on this list.
or they should atleast change the description…
“for 20 seconds you deal less damage and lose all trait bonuses,
also all of your utility and healing skills are disabled.
have fun!”

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Posted by: Dojo.1867

Dojo.1867

Ranger elites are actually all decent, Entangle just is a bit silly the way it works but still can be very annoying and offer the CC you need (+ has become traitable to remove conditions, give fury).

I find Elixir X while not exactly weak (cooldown has been lowered so much, they really tried to force people to use it) very very unoriginal. I hate how they were too lazy to design an own morph form for engi and just copied other classes. 0/10

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Posted by: Rome.3192

Rome.3192

I’ve recently started using Dagger Storm in my S/D build and so far I’ve found it to be of pretty good use. 8 second of stability when canceled or on demand projectile reflection and AoE cripple, plus a whirl finisher, is actually very strong. My only qualm with it is how dodging in the middle of it cancels the skill. We have stow weapon for that. A damage buff to it would make sure I always take it instead of Basilisk Venom, but even the added dodging functionality would make me take it over Basi on sword specs.

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Posted by: Mrbig.8019

Mrbig.8019

I’ve recently started using Dagger Storm in my S/D build and so far I’ve found it to be of pretty good use. 8 second of stability when canceled or on demand projectile reflection and AoE cripple, plus a whirl finisher, is actually very strong. My only qualm with it is how dodging in the middle of it cancels the skill. We have stow weapon for that. A damage buff to it would make sure I always take it instead of Basilisk Venom, but even the added dodging functionality would make me take it over Basi on sword specs.

The point is exactly how unreliable the whirl finisher is.

It MAY work and it may NOT.

Not really e-sporty.

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

only elites need a nerf are Lichform from necro and Moa

Lichform autoatack scale way tooo good with power and crits per hit 4-7k per second + gives stability and thats more than op

and moa should never be alowed in tournament play to begin with^^

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Posted by: Draygo.9473

Draygo.9473

Moa is fine.

I also think FGS is fine, it isn’t as useful in spvp but it sees a lot of use in WvW. So I don’t see them buffing this skill.

Mortar is pretty useless.

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