Guild Wars 2

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quick question, does blind still affect the “fear me!” shout utility?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blind

“Next outgoing attack misses; stacks duration.”

please fix “fear me!” since it is a point blank area of effect (pbaoe) shout with a radius of 600 thus it should be unaffected by blind.

blind should only affects attacks, not shouts.

thanks!

Skyhammer.

That is all.

Wintel.4873:

Skyhammer.

That is all.

what?
hey i still use “fear me!” in non skyhammer maps too.

by the way, do you know if blindness still affects “fear me!” or not?

thanks!

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

quick question, does blind still affect the “fear me!” shout utility?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blind

“Next outgoing attack misses; stacks duration.”

please fix “fear me!” since it is a point blank area of effect (pbaoe) shout with a radius of 600 thus it should be unaffected by blind.

blind should only affects attacks, not shouts.

thanks!

No reason to fear someone who is blind :P

Unless he is Daredevil.

Penguin.5197:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

quick question, does blind still affect the “fear me!” shout utility?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blind

“Next outgoing attack misses; stacks duration.”

please fix “fear me!” since it is a point blank area of effect (pbaoe) shout with a radius of 600 thus it should be unaffected by blind.

blind should only affects attacks, not shouts.

thanks!

No reason to fear someone who is blind :P

Unless he is Daredevil.

owww u got me! XD

leungclj.4915:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Aegis
as for aegis, a boon, the text reads:
“Block the next incoming attack; stacks duration.”

it states there block the next incoming attack.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Attack
“An attack is an action intended to cause Damage on a specific target or area.”

Fear Me! does not cause damage so it should not be blocked !!!

Good catch, I give you that~!

Yea, i found it funny that if you are blind, you can “miss” your shout, LOL

Perhaps you’d just end up shouting at some pigeons because you can’t see who you should be shouting at?

Also, I agree with OP – Warriors need more CC.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

hatlan.9462:

Necro’s fear can be blocked too ( except the mark if you have the trait ) and can miss if you’re blind.

So you want a better fear than necro, you want it umblockable, fast cooldown and instant and you want to ignore blind ? I know warrior sucks but please… be serious.

That’s exactly why necro are so bad right now, it’s because every other classes can do the same but better. Even rangers have better acces to fear now.. lol.

“Fear Me!” is a shout, my eyes may not see (until i try to hit someone) but your ears are definitely not deaf. YOU CAN HEAR ME SHOUTING !!!!

If I saw a warrior staggering around, squinting and fumbling all over the place barely able to track my movement I would hardly run away from him shouting in my general direction.

Yes I can hear you shouting, and I find it a hilarious spectacle.

Yoji.1420:

If I saw a warrior staggering around, squinting and fumbling all over the place barely able to track my movement I would hardly run away from him shouting in my general direction.

Yes I can hear you shouting, and I find it a hilarious spectacle.

A blind warrior that shouts “Fear Me” in range can see again. The logical conclusion is that warriors are actually humanoid bats in disguise that use the power of echo location to move around even when blind.

Fear isn’t a warrior class speciality so 80 seconds cooldown is fine.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

^ fear me has a radius of 600
epidemic has a radius of 600

so you are saying,

1. warrior fears me sends victim running into a nearby group, range further than 600
2. fear duration was 4s, 2s remaining when victim reaches nearby group
3. necro epidemic the original victim
4. 5 targets near the original victim gets 2s of remaining fear

and … that is OP?

Not only does it spread fear but ALL conditions from the target that was picked for epidemic. so yes that is kinda op.

I main a guardian. I have no sympathy for your ‘long’ cool down.

All fear skills should have their cooldown duration increased. It is not a fun skill to fight against.

Because context.

Think what the warrior has access to that the other classes with fear on demand don’t. “Fear” is really strong for the class, this is why the high cool down.

This thread is six months old: fear me has already been changed to be on a 60 seconds cooldown, this thread was reanimated because someone complained about fear me being blocked by blindness.

If you are going to complain about something you never tried at least look it up on google or you ll make yourself look like a fool.

because warriors need more buffs…

Lachanche.6859:

This thread is six months old: fear me has already been changed to be on a 60 seconds cooldown, this thread was reanimated because someone complained about fear me being blocked by blindness.

If you are going to complain about something you never tried at least look it up on google or you ll make yourself look like a fool.

well, its not exactly a complaint.

more like a bug inquiry.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blind
as the description of blind condition states
“Next outgoing attack misses; stacks duration.”

nothing about shouts “missing” so to me this is obviously a bug, non intended feature of the blind condition.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22Fear_Me!%22
lets look at fear me!

nothing about it says attack, its a shout.

the following would be appreciated:
1. fix fear me! so that unaffected by blind
2. fix fear me! ’s description such that blind warriors are not fearsome
3. fix blind tool tip such that shouts can miss

surely, the 3rd option, editing the tool tip is not very hard, right?

also, the reanimation of this topic serves as an example, that what we say in the forums do matter, though i’m not sure if they (anet) already intended to change the recharge time from 80 seconds to 60 seconds or if my topic really made any difference.

it still felt good though.

i.e. i made a topic about fear me! recharge time and then viola, it became 60 seconds, down from 80 seconds.

It puts a condition on enemies. OF COURSE it counts as an attack. Anything else would be ridiculous.

LelouchViBritannia.3607:

It puts a condition on enemies. OF COURSE it counts as an attack. Anything else would be ridiculous.

so by your logic, stomp is an attack as well?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stomp

and stomp will miss everyone if the warrior is blind?
that is ridiculous.

all right, time to make a new topic about blind then.

no, fear me! is an utility shout, not an attack.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

LelouchViBritannia.3607:

It puts a condition on enemies. OF COURSE it counts as an attack. Anything else would be ridiculous.

so by your logic, stomp is an attack as well?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stomp

and stomp will miss everyone if the warrior is blind?
that is ridiculous.

all right, time to make a new topic about blind then.

no, fear me! is an utility shout, not an attack.

What about it isn’t an attack?
It targets enemies and applies negative effects to them!
By your logic, about 50% of utility skills that apply conditions/damage to enemies are not attacks, because they have a subtype.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

LelouchViBritannia.3607:

It puts a condition on enemies. OF COURSE it counts as an attack. Anything else would be ridiculous.

so by your logic, stomp is an attack as well?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stomp

and stomp will miss everyone if the warrior is blind?
that is ridiculous.

all right, time to make a new topic about blind then.

no, fear me! is an utility shout, not an attack.

Of course stomp misses when blinded. Also the forum pretty much knows that you are a warrior troll, with all the ridiculous topics you’ve posted in the last time.

I know that this thread is 6 months old, but I just wanted to say that thief’s Skull Fear has a painfully slow animation. If your opponents can evade/interrupt it before it occurs, it’ll often still be canceled because of some random stun from, say, Chaos Storm.

P Fun Daddy.1208:

What about it isn’t an attack?
It targets enemies and applies negative effects to them!
By your logic, about 50% of utility skills that apply conditions/damage to enemies are not attacks, because they have a subtype.

hmmm okies fair enough.
i will attempt to make request to have the blind condition tool tip re-written to better describe it.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blind
“Next outgoing attack misses; stacks duration.”
rewrite it to
“Next outgoing attack or utility skill misses; stacks duration.”
this, i can accept.

LelouchViBritannia.3607:

Also the forum pretty much knows that you are a warrior troll, with all the ridiculous topics you’ve posted in the last time.

now, just because you do not agree with what i wrote, gives you the right to label me as a “warrior troll” is it? i find that not very nice. nevertheless, i will continue to voice out my opinions, concerns, etc.

Arganthium.5638:

I know that this thread is 6 months old, but I just wanted to say that thief’s Skull Fear has a painfully slow animation. If your opponents can evade/interrupt it before it occurs, it’ll often still be canceled because of some random stun from, say, Chaos Storm.

well yeah the thief’s stolen skull fear does have an obvious skill animation.

also, a month after i posted this original topic, fear me recharge time got reduced to 60 seconds from 80 seconds. so what do you think? did they (anet) already intend to reduce the recharge time even before i made this topic? or my topic did influence them a bit when they were going through the skills balances routine etc?

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blind
“Next outgoing attack misses; stacks duration.”
rewrite it to
“Next outgoing attack or utility skill misses; stacks duration.”
this, i can accept.

That would be even more misleading (not that I think it is misleading as it is), as it suggests that all utilities will miss.

What’s confusing you is your definition of “attack”, ’cause in my opinion anything that directly effects an enemy is an attack.

GeoPro.7530:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blind
“Next outgoing attack misses; stacks duration.”
rewrite it to
“Next outgoing attack or utility skill misses; stacks duration.”
this, i can accept.

That would be even more misleading (not that I think it is misleading as it is), as it suggests that all utilities will miss.

What’s confusing you is your definition of “attack”, ’cause in my opinion anything that directly effects an enemy is an attack.

really?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Attack
“An attack is an action intended to cause Damage on a specific target or area.”

“fear me!” does not cause damage.

anyway, time for a topic about blind, the condition.
this topic has served its purpose 7 months ago.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

quick question, does blind still affect the “fear me!” shout utility?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blind

“Next outgoing attack misses; stacks duration.”

please fix “fear me!” since it is a point blank area of effect (pbaoe) shout with a radius of 600 thus it should be unaffected by blind.

blind should only affects attacks, not shouts.

thanks!

You really Necro’d your OWN thread from 7 months ago, only to suggest that incoming offensive shout attacks should not be blind-able?

/palms the face.

There are currently no exceptions to offensive attacks and blind. Blind makes your next attack miss. And it’s not good for the game if Shouts don’t get affected by blind. Why is a big ol’ bomb affected by blind? It’s still gonna blow you the hell up? That’s because blind is working as intended. Please try to see farther than the handle of your hammer, please. It’s bad enough you’ve been lobbying for Warrior buffs since early 2013, regardless of actual game balance.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

really?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Attack
“An attack is an action intended to cause Damage on a specific target or area.”

“fear me!” does not cause damage.

anyway, time for a topic about blind, the condition.
this topic has served its purpose 7 months ago.

You’re really reaching here, and splitting hairs. Every ability in the game that affects an enemy is currently affected by blind. Abilities that do no damage, too. There’s dozens of them.

And no, not time for a topic about blind. It’s working completely as intended.

Fear Me is overpowered on skyhammer

Stop feeding the troll.

To shut him down once and for all: By his logic if shouts shouldn’t miss when blinded because you’re just shouting, 90% of my elementalist attacks should not be effected by blind because they target the ground and not the opponent, and how can you miss the ground. Hurp durp.

LelouchViBritannia,
would you kindly please stop labeling me as a troll?
again, just because what i wrote does not pleases you, does not give you the right to label and bash me as a troll.

thank you.

by the way, i have already come to terms with blind affecting non weapon attack skills.

now i’m making a request in a relevant topic in order to revise the in game description of blind so that it matches what it does.

Ehm … maybe you re not a troll ( that is very unlikely :P ) but you are obsessed with
warr and you have not any logic behind what you support (most of the times) , or you have not the right communication tools to express it ( i doubt that ) . For example , if you want to support the idea of blind not affect aoe-ish abilities then start an argument about THAT .
Not about a specific class ability which is at least a bad example. I will give you a good example. Ele earthquake. ele churning earth. The big engi bomb. This skills is truly ridiculous to miss because of a blind.
BUT no one has ever made a thread for any of this skills QQing about blind. So in OUR perspective you are a troll And now i will say something that it will make you be satisfied: From a CASUAL perspective like yours there is not a problem if your “fear me” missed one or two times, after all is a casual game ! Its not like you will lose rating or anything

Xaos !!!!

thanks for the detailed reply.
buuuuuttt i haz moved on !!! XD

and yes, i accept your “casual perspective” explanation. good one!

i.e. i accepted blind affects non weapon attack utility skills such as “fear me!” etc.

now please go check out my new topic on blind! thanks ya!

cheers!