Guild Wars 2

Anet,

I’m uninstalling your game. You will not make any more money off me. Our relationship is over. We are done. But, before I go I’d like to offer you some reasons why our relationship is to be concluded (I owe you that much, I suppose):

- The current state of your class balancing is shameful and a disappointment, to say the least. How can you justify the following factual data I’ve accumulated for you:

In ranked PvP, I initially felt like a God Walking Among Mortals. My Mesmer felt confident from the win after win victories I accumulated. I went 20+ wins in a row at one point. Life was good. Then Sapphire Ranking came. Challenging, no problem. Only 5 pipes to go to get to Ruby, and then that was when my Hell began. It broke me. Ruined me. I have no faith anymore. Why? 65 losses later, and with only 6 wins out of that entire 3-4 days worth of playing, how can someone not? My skill as a Mesmer is solid – that’s not the issue/question here. What is are the current game class mechanics you’ve unleashed from the last “class re-balancing.” For example:

In one patch, you effectively ruined Mesmers. Power mesmers? Gone. Play Chrono, or else…you’ve boxed Mesmers into a corner. How could you? You reduced the damage output of Mesmers by approx. 30-50%, yet you gave us nothing to fall back on that substantiates varied play styles. When’s the last time you’ve seen a GS or Staff wielding Mesmer? It’s gone. You’ve murdered them all.

Elementalists rule the “Cap PvP” world you’ve created. Why? Have you really crunched your #‘s and data properly? Good. Now how about you WATCH what looked good on paper has done – they out-heal, out-boon re-apply, and out-support anything and anyone at this time. What’s worse, is you’re not going to kill them. Naa. Not unless you specifically set up a boon corruption group designed specifically for targeting them. But, that in itself is flawed thinking because their timing is too fine tuned that you need to get combos against them off at jusssssst the right time, or guess what? They’re full health again, and once again absorbing all damage. Reminds me of Guild Wars 1 …remember the 55HP Monk you eventually had to nerf? You’ve re-created it w/o even realizing it. And, while it can be argued that Eles can be killed – which they can – let’s keep in mind that the current Ele Meta heal/support requires typically 2-3 players. Let’s consider that a moment…2-3 players, in a 5 on 5 match. That’s a lot of resources. That’s game breaking in a PvP arena that’s supposed to have depth to its’ strategy, skill, and play style system. Pair them up w/ a Heal/Bunker druid, and you have 2 bunkers that aren’t moving anytime soon. They’ll out perform your damage output every time.

Warriors – Where are they? What have you done with them? Do they even PvP? No, they don’t, and when you do see one its like seeing a Unicorn. Why? You’ve left them w/ nothing worth wild to bring to the table. It’s a casters world. Why warrior when you can play DH, Ele, Necro…. You’ve shined them up some shinny precious toy, when in reality it’s junk. Perhaps you should just close up shop w/ Warriors. Ya know, start over from scratch. Guild Wars 1 can teach you about Warriors. At least then they had SOME viability.

Engineers – You gave them some pretty nifty stealth tools. Great way to kitten on the Thief, huh? I mean, the greatest aspect of playing a thief, and you just turned it over to a class that already has so much going for it. Heals, knock-backs, burn, boons, and the list just goes on and on. Wtf were you thinking? Great bunker though. Pair them w/ an Ele and kiss your chances of winning on the receiving end of that union goodbye.

Thief – I feel for them. Every single one of them. You’ve boxed them into a corner as much as a Mesmer at this point. This class must really have kittened you off somehow, somewhere, because beyond the flashy acrobatic choreography, it’s all smoke and mirrors on their viability. Again, you have necros, engineers, and eles bunkering caps like a BOSS, and here’s another class that simply can’t out perform the over-whelming mechanics of these other classes. The idea that they can strike heavy on a 1 on 1 match up sounds great on paper, but you have no mechanics in the game that let that play out properly. At least in GW1, you had it right for the most part….got caught solo…that Assassin was about to remind you why it hurts to be the lone wolf. There was a love/hate there about them then…and they were feared and respected because they had the skills that COULD down you fast enough to make you regret not having a friend nearby. Which, to my point, is that a “Thief” should still be able to accomplish that. Hard to do w/ all the AOE damage and absorption going on – don’t ya think?

Rangers – Druid Bunker heal build. Need I say more? Rangers may have taken a “small hit” during the “re-balancing,” but in my experience the Druid rangers continue to do exactly what they did before – hold a point and not die. So, here we are once again w/ a class that can heal, boon, and recycle fast enough to not feel pressured off a point – unless your team commits multiple resources. Hmm. That’s problematic….2-3 to kill this one player? Sounds like a win for that team….when you can’t hold a cap because too many resources are spent trying to hold and defend just one.

I could go on, but this rant has burned itself out. I’m sure many will flock to this post to roast me, burn me, and flame me. Have at it. But it will not change the fact that your game is severally imbalanced at the moment, that some classes have been practically alienated from performing adequately in sPvP, and that you really should do more balancing patches, as needed, when required, and not just at the end of a PvP Ranked Season. Some Meta builds deserve the nerf bat when it takes the very thing we all came to do when loading GW2 – which is to have fun. It’s just not fun anymore. Not now anyhow. Maybe one day when you figure out how to undo the horrible class imbalances you’ve recently created.

Until then – we’re separated. My money will not fund you any more, and it pains me to say that for a game I love so dearly. Goodbye GW2. It’s been a love/hate relationship from the start.

- Syric

Play 1 more game and record it please, I’d love to review it and see how “bad” your teammates are.

Tbh 100% you are just super tilted/bad at the game.

kek mesmers were nerfhammered cause they owned the game. chrono and condi build are still excellent.

Petoox.6570:

Play 1 more game and record it please, I’d love to review it and see how “bad” your teammates are.

Tbh 100% you are just super tilted/bad at the game.

That’s excellent and deep commentary on the op’s points.
I’d like to add a few words to that.
Or maybe just one.
Hodor.

he isnt wrong though, i will say i’m nearly diamond and some classes like ele/necro/scrapper are so much stronger than many classes right now. It’s gotten to where i despise having warriors on my team because unless they are exeptional, they are just too easy to kill simply by kiting them.

That said though, have you tried condi mesmer? it’s actually very strong right now

Aenaos.8160:

Petoox.6570:

Play 1 more game and record it please, I’d love to review it and see how “bad” your teammates are.

Tbh 100% you are just super tilted/bad at the game.

That’s excellent and deep commentary on the op’s points.
I’d like to add a few words to that.
Or maybe just one.
Hodor.

I said that because his post was mostly whining because he doesn’t know how to counter classes and has overall 0 knowledge about thief for example. 95% sure he is just awful at the game or simply super titled.

qq

I totally agree with the op. You read my mind and put it on forums. +1

To those of you of you that replied in support of my OP – thank you.

To those that feel my skill level as a Mesmer has something to do w/ it, please note the following:

- I’ve exclusively have been playing the Mesmer class for over 2 years now
- I have over 1,800+ hours logged on my Mesmer (main character); most of which are sPvP related.
- I’ve researched, practiced, and have applied lessons successfully shared by other popular Mesmer guide writers, such as: Osicat, and other sticky posts shared at:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer

Additionally, In an effort to show you stats, I have some screen shots to share with you @: http://www.syric.net/images (I’m Sylvena Variel). What you’ll find in these images are several examples of my victory after victory as I moved through Amber and Emerald, and my progress into Sapphire. You’ll see I’m often 1st or 2nd place, and even in lower point ranking I still show my contribution to the team via heals, dmg output, and/or dmg absorption.

There is no reason why I should be, currently as of 3/21/16, at 65 losses and 6 wins in Sapphire ranking over the last 3 days played – that’s running PUG solo, and with running in 2-4 man organized team groups here and there….

Petoox.6570:

Aenaos.8160:

Petoox.6570:

Play 1 more game and record it please, I’d love to review it and see how “bad” your teammates are.

Tbh 100% you are just super tilted/bad at the game.

That’s excellent and deep commentary on the op’s points.
I’d like to add a few words to that.
Or maybe just one.
Hodor.

I said that because his post was mostly whining because he doesn’t know how to counter classes and has overall 0 knowledge about thief for example. 95% sure he is just awful at the game or simply super titled.

Thief main here. I see nothing wrong of his description of the thief. It literally can’t combat in teamfights unless your bunkers lower someone’s HP. Revenant does everything that the thief do. Just better.

And if you are a thief and actually do go in a teamfight, then you are bad. Chances are you die within 10 seconds to some accidental weapon swap sigil.

Truth is, I used to be into S/D thief. Got some clip from an year ago or so when it was actually viable. Had tons of fun with it. Then ANet decided it has to go, nerfed it and left D/P the only viable build. It’s not as much fun because its more of a “blow up or be blown up” build.

Meanwhile revenant just has to spam precision strike and defend themselves. Which is not really that hard given all the defensive abilities they get.

You think I’m full of kitten? Well go ahead and try to see why MagicToker or Frae aren’t playing thieves anymore. Are they full of kitten too?

Syric.1936:

You’ll see I’m often 1st or 2nd place

The fact that you think personal score has a meaning and shows your skill says much about your knowledge of PvP.

Shylock.4653:

Syric.1936:

You’ll see I’m often 1st or 2nd place

The fact that you think personal score has a meaning and shows your skill says much about your knowledge of PvP.

I don’t know why Anet haven’t removed personal score. Like you’ve pointed out, it really doesen’t show skill. A Bunker, that may have contributed the most to the team, will have a much lower personal score than someone that’s DPSing.

Zynt.5769:

I don’t know why Anet haven’t removed personal score. Like you’ve pointed out, it really doesen’t show skill. A Bunker, that may have contributed the most to the team, will have a much lower personal score than someone that’s DPSing.

On top of that it encourages bad play like double capping to get personal score.

Having kittentons of playtime in sPvP doesn’t mean you won’t kitten at your class’s new playstyle in each meta.

Syric.1936:

To those of you of you that replied in support of my OP – thank you.

To those that feel my skill level as a Mesmer has something to do w/ it, please note the following:

- I’ve exclusively have been playing the Mesmer class for over 2 years now
- I have over 1,800+ hours logged on my Mesmer (main character); most of which are sPvP related.
- I’ve researched, practiced, and have applied lessons successfully shared by other popular Mesmer guide writers, such as: Osicat, and other sticky posts shared at:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer

Additionally, In an effort to show you stats, I have some screen shots to share with you @: http://www.syric.net/images (I’m Sylvena Variel). What you’ll find in these images are several examples of my victory after victory as I moved through Amber and Emerald, and my progress into Sapphire. You’ll see I’m often 1st or 2nd place, and even in lower point ranking I still show my contribution to the team via heals, dmg output, and/or dmg absorption.

There is no reason why I should be, currently as of 3/21/16, at 65 losses and 6 wins in Sapphire ranking over the last 3 days played – that’s running PUG solo, and with running in 2-4 man organized team groups here and there….

If you believe that individual score proves that you’re a decent player, then I think you still have a lot to learn about PvP.

Syric I agree with your post, no matter when you put this information, politely on the form, in map chat, etc, you will have trolls come out of the woodwork calling you a bad player blah blah blah. Nice post and explaination.

People here are trolling the OP, go tell that to the thousands and thousands who have left the game in the last 2+ years. You wonder why queues are long and server population/density is way down? You are right because things in the GW2 environment are completely stellar. Trust me everyday I am ready to pull the plug and hop back on SWTOR or run some console games (COD, BF4, now Division). I really have enjoyed this game for a long time, but I do see myself in close to the same boat.

Shylock.4653:

Zynt.5769:

I don’t know why Anet haven’t removed personal score. Like you’ve pointed out, it really doesen’t show skill. A Bunker, that may have contributed the most to the team, will have a much lower personal score than someone that’s DPSing.

On top of that it encourages bad play like double capping to get personal score.

You guys are not wrong, the only thins he did say that made any sense where about the classes. balance is a mess.

jokesonme.4082:

you will have trolls come out of the woodwork calling you a bad player blah blah blah.

???

The fact that the current PvP system has issues make the OP to a good player?

Leagues are not a reward track. Not everyone is entitled to progress.

Instead of the 5 guys lining to tell the OP how bad he is for thinking PS matters … how about you take a closer look at the numbers? If he makes scores of 150-200+ he has been doing a lot more than just standing mid and farming kills, or being a rallybot for the enemy team.

These white knights must be anet’s dev personal account.

Ravenmoon.5318:

Instead of the 5 guys lining to tell the OP how bad he is for thinking PS matters … how about you take a closer look at the numbers? If he makes scores of 150-200+ he has been doing a lot more than just standing mid and farming kills, or being a rallybot for the enemy team.

Why would I look at meaningless numbers with no context?

If the OP showed a video of their gameplay, we could make a more informed decision. Showing that they got over 150 points in a lot of matches means nothing.

Its clear that class balance ist not right. I agree power shatter mesmer is not good now.
But the condi mesmer with MoA and Portal is realy good.
The main problem all around is that classen are forced into mostly one build to play highly competative. A pitty.

Syric.1936:

My skill as a Mesmer is solid – that’s not the issue/question here.

It seems that OP has low self-reflection.

Syric.1936:

You’ll see I’m often 1st or 2nd place

The OP thinks that Personal-Score proofs his skill.

Ravenmoon.5318:

If he makes scores of 150-200+ he has been doing a lot more than just standing mid and farming kill

That’s the reason you think he is a good player?

That’s questionable. I have seen matches where the best player had lowest score and matches where the worst player had top score. In fact most of the time when a player tries to get high PS he plays very bad (double capping etc.). As a mesmer in a team fight it is quite easy to have high PS. Many of your attacks are bouncing so it is quite easy to tag enemies. So that proofs nothing.

It sounds to me that you…kinda….suck

Well…you know, you can’t really make a PvP game where everyone wins all the time, even if that’s what you’re looking for in a game.

Sounds like you really need an imbalanced game where the OP build/class is one that you enjoy. Good luck finding that and I send my condolences for when that inevitably gets nerfed, since that’s pretty much how online games work.

If he is serious about 65 losses and only 6 wins, it needs to be looked in to.

Sounds like a bug in the system again, repeatedly placing some accounts in to the perpetual Team B side of the MMR split, which functions where Team B is the lower MMR stack that is being given a chance to face Team A “higher MMRs” for a chance to progress their MMR. It’s that or could be match manipulation from several entities which I won’t go in to here.

Ask yourselves this: Even if you sat AFK every match and purposely tried to throw games, do you really think you would be able to fudge 65 losses and only 6 wins? I honestly think other players would more often than not, carry the 4v5 you are creating and win a larger ratio of games than 65L/6W even when you were purposely throwing. So you have to wonder what the hell is wrong with this guy’s match making, considering that he is actually not embellishing this story.

Dahkeus.8243:

Well…you know, you can’t really make a PvP game where everyone wins all the time, even if that’s what you’re looking for in a game.

Sounds like you really need an imbalanced game where the OP build/class is one that you enjoy. Good luck finding that and I send my condolences for when that inevitably gets nerfed, since that’s pretty much how online games work.

“Win all the time?”

That is putting words in to the OP’s mouth and hardly his posted concern. He isn’t complaining about 40% win rate and a 60% lose rate, he is complaining about 65 losses in a row and only 6 wins. In no way does it make sense that this would happen. Even if the OP was actually trying to throw games, he’d be hard pressed to successfully throw 65 matches and only win 6.

Stop assuming that people who are experiencing match making issue are all kittened pleebs that can’t play the game because they aren’t.

In fact, the idea that you are within a “match making” system indicates that you should be getting relatively balanced matches to begin with so any time a play gets a 65 loss streak and only 6 wins, it is evident that something is wrong with the match making and people should be posting about it.

Syric.1936:

To those of you of you that replied in support of my OP – thank you.

To those that feel my skill level as a Mesmer has something to do w/ it, please note the following:

- I’ve exclusively have been playing the Mesmer class for over 2 years now
- I have over 1,800+ hours logged on my Mesmer (main character); most of which are sPvP related.
- I’ve researched, practiced, and have applied lessons successfully shared by other popular Mesmer guide writers, such as: Osicat, and other sticky posts shared at:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer

Additionally, In an effort to show you stats, I have some screen shots to share with you @: http://www.syric.net/images (I’m Sylvena Variel). What you’ll find in these images are several examples of my victory after victory as I moved through Amber and Emerald, and my progress into Sapphire. You’ll see I’m often 1st or 2nd place, and even in lower point ranking I still show my contribution to the team via heals, dmg output, and/or dmg absorption.

There is no reason why I should be, currently as of 3/21/16, at 65 losses and 6 wins in Sapphire ranking over the last 3 days played – that’s running PUG solo, and with running in 2-4 man organized team groups here and there….

Back in the Halo 3 days I had a friend that spent $500 for lessons from professional players and played 8+ hours a day. He still couldn’t get his MLG rank 50. Truth is some people are just trash and will always be trash.

http://www.syric.net/images/gw541.jpg

Look at your damage. Like wtf, you healed your team more than you deal damage? That’s an indication of a wrong play style.

I think it’s best if you recorded a game where you lose so people can see how you do.

Ultimately, experiences like this are the fault of Anet in their design of the league system.

GW2 is a casual game, and they almost always try to make new stuff palatable to causal players. The leagues are no exception, and the hybrid compromise between casual and competitive leaves everyone unhappy.

Amber through sapphire are all easily passed by even the worst players if they play enough games. This is the concession to casual players; being able to progress at least to ruby without having an ounce of skill.

However, ruby suddenly is having none of their kitten, and smacks down people that aren’t able to consistently pump out wins. This creates the massive wall that players like OP are crashing face-first into. Since everybody gets to ruby, there is no competition or challenge up to that point. Once you enter ruby, you’re suddenly exposed to the full and unmitigated challenge of having a massive range of skills all scrunched into one division.

If Anet had made every division equally difficult to progress through, you’d get a more even settling curve where some settled in emerald, some in sapphire, some in ruby, and some in diamond. If Anet had gone full casual and made it equally easy to progress through diamond, there would be no settling and everyone would end up at the top end. By making this compromise system, they’ve simply caused a massive traffic jam to occur in ruby that catches everyone up in it, regardless of skill level.

the probability of losing 65 times in a row…….is really low
u sure it isn’t your problem?

i think i saw your name while passing through sapphire and now im in mid ruby, im glad i no longer team with any sapphire but ruby ppl can still be bad.

im still upset that im always being placed on the weaker team (consist of lower div) and fighting against stronger team (consist of higher div). i have seen a lot of ppl that reach legend in very short time showing their progress, they were never placed in such team like mine.

You consider a game studio your lover?

Less than 120k damage done, and less than70k received and 225 total points? Assuming those were all from kills, you would be under 5.5k damage per target. Unless you cc locked the other team and were a portal champ I don’t see how you helped the team much.

Sunshine.5014:

http://www.syric.net/images/gw541.jpg

Look at your damage. Like wtf, you healed your team more than you deal damage? That’s an indication of a wrong play style.

I think it’s best if you recorded a game where you lose so people can see how you do.

Yeah, let’s have the OP upload a vid so all you wannabe pros that came here to troll can line up like a firing squad. Yeah, right.

I agree with the OP. Whether they’re a “good” player or not is not for me, or any of you, to judge. What they say is true though. The balance of the game is completely awful. Just take a look at the current pro series. Mirror matches? That’s not fun at all.

Syric.1936:

…Sapphire ranking over the last 3 days played – that’s running PUG solo, and with running in 2-4 man organized team groups here and there….

Got a few questions if you have the inclination to spare before you leave the forum:
1. which sapphire tier you ended in?
2. did your win rate improved after running in 2-4 man organized team groups (and is it with other sapphire players)?

So two things to OP:

1. you are stuck in emerald means you are emerald level. There is nothing more to it. The amount of hours played or your success in lower divisions does not make you a good player. I main mesmer but I don’t consider myself a good player, and still I went up to diamond mostly soloq. Mesmer is currently in a so-so spot, but it still has great tools to carry a soloq game, like portal or moa. So if you can’t progress further, you have to look at your own rotations and fighting skills before accusing your team mates. And I don’t mean that as a negative comment: this is a great way to improve. For example, if you feel that you’re always outnumbered, don’t necessarily blame your team for not being around you; maybe blame yourself for putting yourself in this bad match up.

1. on the other hand, all your criticism against the balance is indeed justified. Yes, a-net has been giving out new tools like candies. If you compare new skills to already existing ones, it is hard not to see how much power creep HoT has brought:
2. compare infuse light to defiant stance. Yes they are very similar. But rev have another heal.
3. Surge of the Mists: yes, high damage, insane CC (9 knockbacks?), mobility and evade in one skill…
4. tempest: an elite specialization centered around giving more support and healing to elementalist… because that is exactly what they needed.
5. Sneak Gyro vs Shadow Refuge?

and in general, elite specs were supposed to add build diversity but instead reduced it by completely destroying the “decent” balance we had before.

Anomaly.7612:

Yeah, let’s have the OP upload a vid so all you wannabe pros that came here to troll can line up like a firing squad. Yeah, right.

I agree with the OP. Whether they’re a “good” player or not is not for me, or any of you, to judge. What they say is true though. The balance of the game is completely awful. Just take a look at the current pro series. Mirror matches? That’s not fun at all.

Except most of the things he said aren’t true at all, or just plain wrong. Let me know what division you’re stuck in and i’ll try to help you improve and get out of this “mmr hell” people keep insisting exists.

@Fay as much as I respect you as a Mesmer, you’re dead wrong on the grind. I got buried under 30+ loss streaks in the first days of the tournaments. I’ve spent nearly full time work hours trying to advance and am currently t3 of Sapphire. In T2, 2 weeks into the tournament, I faced an esl team, and in another match an esl team member.

The system has resulted in poor matches throughout the divsions and too few advancing. This means the high level players go back through the ranks on alts, punishing the rest of us again.

Thus the logic of speeding “good” players through the lower ranks fast is a failure.

Prior to this tournament, my alt account was bouncing around a 50% win ratio. now that is closer to 10% or less. I don’t have the heart to calculate it.

I’ve busted my kitten, tried to get better and this is my reward? repeated stomps? Yeah… that’s going to to make me admire the upper ranks, giving them prestige.. It’s also very encouraging to me to keep coming back, particularly since I have little to no hope of winning the wings.

Zynt.5769:

I don’t know why Anet haven’t removed personal score. Like you’ve pointed out, it really doesen’t show skill. A Bunker, that may have contributed the most to the team, will have a much lower personal score than someone that’s DPSing.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that ANET used personal score to help determine MMR.

Ithilwen.1529:

The system has resulted in poor matches throughout the divsions

That’s probably what most people who congratulated themselves for advancing quickly didn’t realise. They were merely stomping games, the games themselves were of poor quality.

It’s the same as last season, instead of soloq getting fed to premades ANet’s feeding soloq/average players to partied/higher mmr players.

It was disappointing to see Helseth come out in support of the current system. It 1) showed his disconnect to the average player 2) Encourages Anet to use it a again next season.

I’m an auramancer tempest and mesmers kill me all the time. Though my original character in this game was a Mesmer, I stopped playing with her because she is too weak to do anything anymore and I’m struggling too much with her in pve. I don’t know what hit me. I don’t know all the stuff they did to nerf the Mesmer, but mine is virtually useless.

She’s full power build, ascended armor and weapons and the prospect of rebuilding her and gearing her is too expensive.

She is retired for lack of functionality. She is no longer any fun to play.

Ithilwen.1529:

@Fay as much as I respect you as a Mesmer, you’re dead wrong on the grind. I got buried under 30+ loss streaks in the first days of the tournaments. I’ve spent nearly full time work hours trying to advance and am currently t3 of Sapphire. In T2, 2 weeks into the tournament, I faced an esl team, and in another match an esl team member.

The system has resulted in poor matches throughout the divsions and too few advancing. This means the high level players go back through the ranks on alts, punishing the rest of us again.

Thus the logic of speeding “good” players through the lower ranks fast is a failure.

Prior to this tournament, my alt account was bouncing around a 50% win ratio. now that is closer to 10% or less. I don’t have the heart to calculate it.

I’ve busted my kitten, tried to get better and this is my reward? repeated stomps? Yeah… that’s going to to make me admire the upper ranks, giving them prestige.. It’s also very encouraging to me to keep coming back, particularly since I have little to no hope of winning the wings.

Ultimately though, it only takes a 3 match winstreak out of a losing streak to progress a division that can’t be lost. Even with a lot of bad luck, this is going to happen eventually. However, ruby is an entirely different matter where just a bit of good luck now and then will not make you any progress. Eventually, everyone will get to ruby, but not past it.

Syric.1936:

In one patch, you effectively ruined Mesmers. Power mesmers? Gone. Play Chrono, or else…you’ve boxed Mesmers into a corner. How could you? You reduced the damage output of Mesmers by approx. 30-50%, yet you gave us nothing to fall back on that substantiates varied play styles.

I’m answering with an analogy on teef:
“You got portal tho”

But yeah, class balancing s horrible and made me quit as well.

Shylock.4653:

Syric.1936:

My skill as a Mesmer is solid – that’s not the issue/question here.

It seems that OP has low self-reflection.

Syric.1936:

You’ll see I’m often 1st or 2nd place

The OP thinks that Personal-Score proofs his skill.

Ravenmoon.5318:

If he makes scores of 150-200+ he has been doing a lot more than just standing mid and farming kill

That’s the reason you think he is a good player?

That’s questionable. I have seen matches where the best player had lowest score and matches where the worst player had top score. In fact most of the time when a player tries to get high PS he plays very bad (double capping etc.). As a mesmer in a team fight it is quite easy to have high PS. Many of your attacks are bouncing so it is quite easy to tag enemies. So that proofs nothing.

It’s questionable, I agree. However lowest score could be 0 points and lowest score can be 120 points. Sorting by points is bad, but if you’ve accumulated 120 points you’ve done at least one thing right.

Good players always manage to make good scores, even while bunkering. You won’t see an ESL player with less than 50 points is what I’m saying. That doesn’t mean that our fella here with 150 is better than an ESL player who scored just 100. That’s not even an argument here.

Truth is, sometimes i’ve been doing my best and I still made a kittenty score. Upon closer look in that game, I was clearly shutdown and hardcountered on every corner. (happened when I played thief, and I consider myself mechanically good with it)

^ If this happens, i’m not much of a help to the team, am I? Regardless of how many times I decapped far or helped takedown a target just to see it resurrected because I can’t apply pressure afterwards without killing myself.

I saw someone complaining about moa and portal …..

How come nobody complained about those when power shatter was a thing? Is it because you could takedown the mesmer in a sneeze or an accidental weapon swap and now you cant? Yeah i understand the frustration. It’s balance issue, not portal/moa issue. Condi builds are too tanky and their damage output is too gimmicky. Perhaps dodging should cleanse, i really don’t know. Condi is not fun.

Condi builds tend to be sustainable while remaining bunker. Meanwhile, your average power build dies at a sneeze. Even the marauder.

Browrain.7346:

Anomaly.7612:

Yeah, let’s have the OP upload a vid so all you wannabe pros that came here to troll can line up like a firing squad. Yeah, right.

I agree with the OP. Whether they’re a “good” player or not is not for me, or any of you, to judge. What they say is true though. The balance of the game is completely awful. Just take a look at the current pro series. Mirror matches? That’s not fun at all.

Except most of the things he said aren’t true at all, or just plain wrong. Let me know what division you’re stuck in and i’ll try to help you improve and get out of this “mmr hell” people keep insisting exists.

Nah, I’m good, but thanks. I’ve studied streams, read guides, talked to legend players, and done my fair share of practicing, but nothing seems to help as I can’t carry hard enough it seems. I’m a ruby player with a 50% W/L so apparently that’s as good as I’ll ever get (or so says the game) so I’ve given up on the game until they make some changes to balance and MM as there are better things to do with my time than smack my head against a wall. ^^

you made it through amber and emerald without losing? cool so did everybody else. If you lose 60+ games or whatever in sapphire then it’s your own fault.

If you get stuck at a division where you can’t even lose tiers, maybe you should think about what you’re doing rather than crying about the game. You know every single “bad teammate” you’ve had? They all think they’re awesome, just like you do. Maybe it’s time you stop overestimating your abilities and started working to improve.

lol tl;dr nerd

Petoox.6570:

Play 1 more game and record it please, I’d love to review it and see how “bad” your teammates are.

Tbh 100% you are just super tilted/bad at the game.

wow the way you killed his argument is just incredible. the arguments flowed like a river and your facts stood solid like a rock. i particularly liked the way you addressed his point about thiefs and wars, that was just epic. i mean everyone can see that war and thief are the most popular classes in pro games kappa. well i guess i can be happy that you did not talk about his mother.

Petoox.6570:

Aenaos.8160:

Petoox.6570:

Play 1 more game and record it please, I’d love to review it and see how “bad” your teammates are.

Tbh 100% you are just super tilted/bad at the game.

That’s excellent and deep commentary on the op’s points.
I’d like to add a few words to that.
Or maybe just one.
Hodor.

I said that because his post was mostly whining because he doesn’t know how to counter classes and has overall 0 knowledge about thief for example. 95% sure he is just awful at the game or simply super titled.

hahahaha counter classes!!! can you explain to me how am i supposed to counter a DH with my thief? if you knew anything about class balance in this game you would never talk such kittenttttt.

Hhahaha

Electra.7530:

I’m an auramancer tempest and mesmers kill me all the time. Though my original character in this game was a Mesmer, I stopped playing with her because she is too weak to do anything anymore and I’m struggling too much with her in pve. I don’t know what hit me. I don’t know all the stuff they did to nerf the Mesmer, but mine is virtually useless.

She’s full power build, ascended armor and weapons and the prospect of rebuilding her and gearing her is too expensive.

She is retired for lack of functionality. She is no longer any fun to play.

It’s the second time I’ve seen you post about ascended armor here on the PvP forum. Not sure if you realise this, but stats in PvP are completely separate from PvE. It doesn’t matter if you’re wearing ascended or level 1 white armor, it’s all the same. The stats can be easily selected in the PvP build tab. If you aren’t running a build in PvP, I’m not surprised you feel useless.