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Posted by: Knote.2904

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When we get cast bars maybe.

Blindly interupt spam on point isn’t a viable enough reason for me to run it, And every other situation I’d rather just take the strait up 20%

That being said I don’t think it’s a bad trait

I play it without cast bars and it’s way more skill based that way. Spamming blindly will see you lose. I’ve gotten quite good at watching animations to the point where, when cast bars are added, I’ll be really sad.

there’s nothing skillfull spamming rups and deal damage from HS when it counts even on autos… just sayin. The skill isn’t bad but there’s much better options.

You go ahead and interrupt auto attacks. I’ll just interrupt the things that actually matter.

yes, because gw2 has a lot of skills with significantly different cast animations and long casting time worth using a rupt on. I know you said this to sound ‘smart’ but c’mon now, its gw2 we’re talking about… an mmo with no cast bars lmao

I’m the one who has played the build. I do know what I’m talking about.

Really, the only argument you have has already been made by a different person who said; with all the effects noise, the effectiveness of the build drops, which is true. When it comes to animations though, I can tell what abilities to interrupt. Sometimes I spam and in those cases, I find that I’m less effective. In fact I had a fight with a mesmer and in a different situation, a thief, that made that fact quite apparent to me.

So yea, you may believe that GW2 has animation issues (which in some cases, it does) but that hasn’t affected my effectiveness with this build.

okay and what animations are you looking for to interrupt? I mean if all animations were as obvious as the Mass Invis one i’d agree but its far from being the case. No cast bars, same hard to read animations on everyone and not being able to load your skill bar with a lot more rupts than what’s available (you know, to actually make HS truly useful?) is the reason i will never consider HS or run a rupt build for that matter. Its just not effective as its once was in gw1 and will never be like that in gw2 cuz its streamlined to dem casuals.

Do you want me to list every skill I interrupt? To narrow it down, I usually interrupt skills that have cast times longer than a half a second or if I see a distinct animation. The hardest things to interrupt for me are the Engineer turret and Ranger Healing spring heal skills because those are half a second cast times. I catch those sometimes, usually by guessing the percentage people usually decide to heal at but I don’t always get it right.
Yes this isn’t GW1 where you can just stack your bar full of interrupts and laugh your way to the bank but it’s still pretty good and I enjoy playing it. Especially against Necros.

When cast bars are implemented it will make things easier but I’ll enjoy interrupting heals like a pro for now.

After a while you get used to animations, and you can also foretell when your opponent will use something.

Imho we shouldn’t have casting bars, because ( i know it may sound silly) but IRL, if you practice martial arts, you don’t have “cast bars” on your opponent heads saying “HEY BUD, LOW KICK INCOMING !!!” and this “animation based” game is very rewarding if played correctly.

The point is there are tons of undistingued animations (necro for istance), super fast animations with strong effects on low CDs ( withdraw, heal turret, skull crack etc) making absolutely no sense.

Yet interrupts can still be used, and mesmer is by far the best in doing so.

With and interrupt build with Mantra of Distraction, you just deal about 10 k damage on a medium toughness char by simply using MoD and interrupting anything you see has a cast time: you have so many ranged interrupts you’re basically able to completely shut down a dangerous characther ( a necro, for example) while also dealing massive damage with GS ranged shatters.

I think it’s about time to make GW 1 mesmer to come back.

You also aren’t in third person 20 feet above your body while dueling someone IRL, along with fireworks going off all around you.

Lol.

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

Darnis.4056

Guys… This is an interrupt build discussion, and not a single person mentioned Counter Blade, no wonder it’s had a bug for a year and it hasn’t been fixed. Know your Mesmer!!

With Blade training the cooldown becomes 12 seconds, and with Illusionist celerity 9 (at least it’s supposed to, but it’s bugged). This means that you have an AoE piercing daze for 9 seconds, well 12 because of the bug. Still, with Illusionary riposte not only is it possible to have a 100% uptime of might, but also 25 stacks of it if the circumstances are favorable, not to mention ALL of the effects on interrupt, EVERY 9 (12) SECONDS!! That skill is the lowest CD daze Mesmers have, and it’s so underused in interrupt builds is ridiculous, specially considering most people use MH sword. Here’s a video using it.

I’d give you more credit if this was at least soloque.. but I can probably go in with no traits and kill people in hotjoin.. and make a demo reel of it. I didn’t get the indication that these guys were high class opponents from their/your play..

on second thought that’s a bad idea Id probably get mesmer nerfed…

I’m not trying to insult you, but would please provide some evidence of this build working better then even standard shatter/metacondi mesmer anywhere but hotjoin?

or better yet, are you NA?.. 1v1?

On the note of confusion mesmer;
I get 2 stacks of confusion per popped clone and also bleeds/poisons other conditions whenever I dodge or summon phant/clone. Stacks might not go up very high 6-7 for confusion 14-20 for bleeds but the uptime is pretty scary.

Will the Real Pink Puma Please stand up?

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

Guys… This is an interrupt build discussion, and not a single person mentioned Counter Blade, no wonder it’s had a bug for a year and it hasn’t been fixed. Know your Mesmer!!

With Blade training the cooldown becomes 12 seconds, and with Illusionist celerity 9 (at least it’s supposed to, but it’s bugged). This means that you have an AoE piercing daze for 9 seconds, well 12 because of the bug. Still, with Illusionary riposte not only is it possible to have a 100% uptime of might, but also 25 stacks of it if the circumstances are favorable, not to mention ALL of the effects on interrupt, EVERY 9 (12) SECONDS!! That skill is the lowest CD daze Mesmers have, and it’s so underused in interrupt builds is ridiculous, specially considering most people use MH sword. Here’s a video using it.

I wouldn’t depend on that skill to interrupt personally. I feel like I have to activate to skills to get one effect. May not be as fast as I’d like.

I make guides to builds you may not have heard of;
http://www.youtube.com/user/ceimash
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Posted by: GreenLentil.3927

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Sorry for the misunderstanding, but that’s not me on the video, I run a different build. I just found this person actually using interruption with Counter Blade. I would change a lot of their traits, actually, and I agree about the enemy players’ skill. That’s not the point I tried to make though, the point is that a lot of people don’t realize how good off-hand sword is for interrupt builds, and I was surprised to see so many known mesmers in this thread and no one mentioned it.

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Posted by: GreenLentil.3927

GreenLentil.3927

Guys… This is an interrupt build discussion, and not a single person mentioned Counter Blade, no wonder it’s had a bug for a year and it hasn’t been fixed. Know your Mesmer!!

With Blade training the cooldown becomes 12 seconds, and with Illusionist celerity 9 (at least it’s supposed to, but it’s bugged). This means that you have an AoE piercing daze for 9 seconds, well 12 because of the bug. Still, with Illusionary riposte not only is it possible to have a 100% uptime of might, but also 25 stacks of it if the circumstances are favorable, not to mention ALL of the effects on interrupt, EVERY 9 (12) SECONDS!! That skill is the lowest CD daze Mesmers have, and it’s so underused in interrupt builds is ridiculous, specially considering most people use MH sword. Here’s a video using it.

I wouldn’t depend on that skill to interrupt personally. I feel like I have to activate to skills to get one effect. May not be as fast as I’d like.

It’s actually pretty fast, there is not internal wait time like Temporal Curtain and Into the void.

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Posted by: Poxxia.1547

Poxxia.1547

Guys… This is an interrupt build discussion, and not a single person mentioned Counter Blade, no wonder it’s had a bug for a year and it hasn’t been fixed. Know your Mesmer!!

With Blade training the cooldown becomes 12 seconds, and with Illusionist celerity 9 (at least it’s supposed to, but it’s bugged). This means that you have an AoE piercing daze for 9 seconds, well 12 because of the bug. Still, with Illusionary riposte not only is it possible to have a 100% uptime of might, but also 25 stacks of it if the circumstances are favorable, not to mention ALL of the effects on interrupt, EVERY 9 (12) SECONDS!! That skill is the lowest CD daze Mesmers have, and it’s so underused in interrupt builds is ridiculous, specially considering most people use MH sword. Here’s a video using it.

This is old news:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Sensotix-Builds-and-Tutorials-Collection/first#post2891473

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAscWlwzCoXTTmGb9IipHEnvJckUYasWJF82FC-TsAg0CnICSFkLITQygsBNEZJyMCA

I am not even sure, if he was the first. I just recall him changing to double-sword at some point.

It has been discussed a lot in the mesmer-forum … and you should have done your research by looking through it.
The mesmer-forum has a lot of very organized information btw.

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Posted by: GreenLentil.3927

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Nope, you don’t get to tell me I should have done research. I know the class really well as well as the forums and those who are active. I never said people don’t use sword OH, I said it’s really underused in interrupt builds and that it wasn’t mentioned in this thread, which are both true. The very fact that it has been discussed is why it is surprising it wasn’t mentioned here. Sensotix’s build is a great build, but that post was also made a month ago, and people have been tempering with interrupts much before that without really thinking about Counter Blade.
I’m well aware the mesmer forums are very organized, thank you for reminding, I’m sure some people lurking the mesmer forums don’t know that. What I said continues to be true. Hopefully Off hand sword will come up a lot more often in discussions, maybe then Anet will fix the bug thing.

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Posted by: Poxxia.1547

Poxxia.1547

Nope, you don’t get to tell me I should have done research. I know the class really well as well as the forums and those who are active. I never said people don’t use sword OH, I said it’s really underused in interrupt builds and that it wasn’t mentioned in this thread, which are both true. The very fact that it has been discussed is why it is surprising it wasn’t mentioned here. Sensotix’s build is a great build, but that post was also made a month ago, and people have been tempering with interrupts much before that without really thinking about Counter Blade.
I’m well aware the mesmer forums are very organized, thank you for reminding, I’m sure some people lurking the mesmer forums don’t know that. What I said continues to be true. Hopefully Off hand sword will come up a lot more often in discussions, maybe then Anet will fix the bug thing.

First … I can tell you whatever I like But whatever .. no harm intended on my behalf
As I recall the two threads are not interlinked. That is what some threads on the mesmer-forum tried to compensate for: The loads of un-coordinated information.
I am playing a mesmer myself, so I am not lurking in it … I am using it.

What you are saying is, that that build doesn’t use IC, and hence my contribution is irrelevant since it doesn’t deal with the bug, right?

What I am saying however, is that even without IC it is worth taking. It depends on what aspect you want to emphasize … personally I find I give up too much to take IC. And people have realized that for a long time, it is not new. Sensotix does use OH-sword btw; I can’t account for the entire mesmer-population. It isn’t all about cd’s but also about how you apply what you use and how you choose to do dmg. Personally I find, that the mesmer-traits are full of unpleasant choices.

Personally I wouldn’t go for HS without OH-sword. Harmonious Mantras on the other hand I can live without, even if I feel I shouldn’t. I don’t see many HS-mesmers either; I do however see a lot of PU-mesmers (Blackwater-build) and Shatter-mesmers. I have my own theory about that (which is why I don’t play HS much), but that is just me, and not the entire mesmer-population. Hopefully the patch can swing some changes and open the door for more HS-mesmers.

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Posted by: GreenLentil.3927

GreenLentil.3927

Thank you for your response, and I apologize for over reacting a little, it just seemed that you were calling me out and being condescending. I am not suggesting a build here. While it might not be the best in every interrupt build, OH sword should at least be considered in every of those build, and I was just surprised to see that it wasn’t mentioned here. I also really like the skill, and wish the bug got fixed already to unlock a build’s full potential using it.

I agree about IC, it is a lot to spend for it, but I think it works well in interrupt builds, since you get to use illusionary persona for a quick diversion, or imbued diversion in situations like WvW, and lower diversion CD. Then again, as you said not every interrupt build needs it and OH sword is definitely still good without it.

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