Guild Wars 2

Hello, I’m making this post to express how the “new” PvP Matchmaking feels to me now that Devs apparently stopped touching the system (algorythms, etc…). This is just my little piece of feedback (TL;DR at the end).

At first, when the new system launched it was awkward to everyone cause Match Making needed to settle (or something like this?) and I think devs added Profession MMR so it was even worse. I don’t know if they got rid of that metric or not, but eventually Matchmaking felt good, I could mantain 50% win ratio going SoloQ. Sometimes it returned to feel bad but I guess it was time frame issues (like playing at 1am or, let’s call it “bad hours” where not many players are logged and playing PvP).

Lately, I guess the last one week or so, when I queued Solo, I’ve been having losing streaks (i.e. 3 lose- 1 win, I think I even arrived at a 7 loses in a row). I’m not saying the same thing everyone says (“Omg team of total PUGs facing full premade team GG MM”), no, I’m not saying that (even though I had some matches like that, but I don’t care, these are a minority). What I want to express is that MatchMaking seems to work improperly, at least lately (Or maybe I just have a really low MMR or a really high MMR and I’m the baddie, I don’t know).

Everyone has stated this several weeks ago, that it felt odd, but I’m saying this now because it’s now when I’m facing this “problem”: the “drop” in quality of games. I just feel like I’m the only one who knows how to move on the map (but clearly in those losing streaks not every game was bad and, as well, I mess up games sometimes, I’m not the best player in the world). Everything said until now happens when I’m queueing Solo.

When I TeamQ (I’m not refering to a full 5 premade, but to 2 or 3 premade) I tend to win more games, obviously because it gives you an advantage (even if we are not in TeamSpeak and other voice-chat services) and with this large Solo losing streak I tend to win way more games when I’m playing with some friends. I know too, as some Devs have stated already, they want players to queue up together and form teams, because it’s a team game (and I’m totally fine about that).

TL;DR: lately PvP Matchmaking started to feel odd when I queue Solo and generally it feels the same when I TeamQ. These are just feels and perceptions of my games: when I SoloQ I feel that sometimes in the games I play, my team is at a lower level than me (and therefore we get crushed). No complains about TeamQ. As said before, MatchMaking still needs to be tweaked (and maybe more important, a part of the players needs to change their mindset in the games).

I think that I’ve said everything I wanted to say, sorry for the long post and the surely bad english. If you haven’t understood something I wanted to express, feel free to ask and I’ll try to explain it better. One more time, the post is about my feelings about PvP Matchmaking, to give my little piece of feedback for Devs so they can improve this and continue doing their awesome job. Thanks.

Today i actually had to stop playing after losing 4 games in a row.
Some games are just impossible to play :
I get players losing to svanir , or kiling svanir in 40 seconds then going mid to die in 3 secs or i get players double capping and zerging from one point to the other, i had a game that i capped close, then 3 came to me from the other team, i had 1 one of my team mates going far to die, 3 of my mates were taking like 50 secs to kill 1 of them at mid , so i lost close the guy that went far died ,my 3 team mates got mid AND ALL 3 LEFT MID TO GO CAPP A SIDE SHRINE the guy at far came mid and we got triple capped.
i still get like thivs and rangers and mesmers vs 2 cele dd eles cele engies and warriors.
The macth making feels like a lottary, premades should never face solos, new players shouldnt get in teams with experienced players, there should be some requirements to join ranked( like win 300 unranked games) .
im not saying only top players should join, but getting games 500- 60 its not fun to any one .
no wonder i dont see any top players joining, they play 2 – 4 games at day , this mach making really needs a lot of work.

I would have to agree with you. I think the loss of solo queue has hurt the game. I really only play a few matches and then stop. Its not fun to lose so many games against a lot of premades. I don’t even bother with ranked generally except when I have a team since they are generally farming sessions otherwise. I would like to see solo queue brought back again since I see fewer players even playing pvp anymore

Androlan.9487:

since I see fewer players even playing pvp anymore

Oh man, I’d rather say that there is even more people playing PvP, because maybe, and only maybe (clearly I don’t have any kind of statistic), this “decrease” in MM quality happened due to a rise in population, new to the PvP game-mode, who doesn’t know how to play maps properly and doesn’t know good builds (let’s say they played 300 games, nothing comparable to 2.000 games for example). It’s just a guessing: more newcomers, different quality we could say.

Edit: by the way, I don’t want this post to become another “SoloQ should’ve never disappeared” post. I’d rather like to see people sharing what they feel nowadays about PvP Matchmaking, either it’s a good feel or a bad feel.

Solo q’ers should never face a team, nuff said.

as someone who mostly solo ques, i try to take the lead on some of these fights. So if i see 3 coming home i try to hold as long as possible understanding my team will probably zerg back from mid so when i rez back i head to far to engage in a 1 vs 1 or free cap and i hold that.

All im saying is new players tend to play the same and it works for them since they probably struggle in 1vs1 and 2vs2. So me being a veteran i understand that will struggle and i have to be the person who scores the least amount of points on the team. Have some noob talk smack to me about how he scored 150 pts and i have 40. Knowing this i have around a 50% win rate when solo que. Obviously when i team up with friends or guild mates i win alot more. ALl im saying is if you feel your a good player you shouldnt expect people to do what you think the game should be played as. You can still win matches if you understand who your playing with.

I recently played a game where i capped hoem 3 went to beast, guess what they got 2 cap and those 3 went to mid. I ran to far and got a decap and the other person got a steal. Everyone on the team including me were killed in the next fights. Point is we had a 100-25 point lead till they triple capped us and we got spanked from there on out. All im saying you never know and the mm isnt perfect but if your going to continue pvp you need to understand that the new pvp players/wvw/ bad players will zerg and or not be able to hold spots.

WOW again after playing 4 games today i need to stop playing pvp .
last 2 games were like this :
game starts i get close 2 from the other team come at me i duel them for 90 seconds untill i died , my team is all at mid 4 vs 2 (THEY ALL DIED ) we got triple capped and game end 500-100 no one afk they just suked

second game was exatly the same but with diferent players and diferent map, exatly teh same , i had players with 0 points at the end of the game and they didnt afk.

im sure anet can check this and see that what im saying is true.

its crazy how 4 players lose to 2 playing in 1 minute at mid , this macth making is behod stupid and i cant pvp anymore , its impossible how does this happen???

this must be the worse state of pvp in macth making atm .

pffffff

You’re right kdaddy, that’s maybe why I said in OP that people needs to change their mindset but you explain it perfectly I think