Guild Wars 2

Lighter.5631:

Jasher.6580:

Hawatak.8049:

When you begin to see 5 rangers teams, you SHOULD think there is a problem with the meta. Just sayin’ …

I’ve seen 5 Thief Teams, 5 Mesmer Teams (go team Mesmer), 5 Necro Teams, 5 Guardian Teams… and they all stomped people… This is not a reflection of “the meta”.

Spirit Rangers are good. But the way you are whining about them is stupid and unjustifiable. I’m hard pressed to think that you are a good player.

ever see a 5 warrior team stomp a team of necro, engi, ranger,mesmer in soloq?

Can I just say that Warriors are amazing right now in tpvp and they are currently the hardest counter to necro’s and engi’s.

Why aren’t engineers consider as op? They have similar access to burning plus confusion.. and they are as tanky as necros, less aoe but better mobility.. they should be tonned down imo.

Neare.9703:

Lighter.5631:

Jasher.6580:

Hawatak.8049:

When you begin to see 5 rangers teams, you SHOULD think there is a problem with the meta. Just sayin’ …

I’ve seen 5 Thief Teams, 5 Mesmer Teams (go team Mesmer), 5 Necro Teams, 5 Guardian Teams… and they all stomped people… This is not a reflection of “the meta”.

Spirit Rangers are good. But the way you are whining about them is stupid and unjustifiable. I’m hard pressed to think that you are a good player.

ever see a 5 warrior team stomp a team of necro, engi, ranger,mesmer in soloq?

Can I just say that Warriors are amazing right now in tpvp and they are currently the hardest counter to necro’s and engi’s.

They are, the problem is to be truly effective they really need a coordinated team taking advantage of that locking down.

Been hoping we would see more Warriors in the tournaments working on that counter, but seems like the answer was actually MOAR SPIRIT RANGERS lol.

dovrak.4376:

Why aren’t engineers consider as op? They have similar access to burning plus confusion.. and they are as tanky as necros, less aoe but better mobility.. they should be tonned down imo.

Could be just because Engineer actually takes a little bit to master and really pull off that effectively…literally anyone can just make a Necro or Spirit Ranger and go faceroll.

I know, I’ve done it.

+1 couldn’t say it better

dovrak.4376:

Why aren’t engineers consider as op? They have similar access to burning plus confusion.. and they are as tanky as necros, less aoe but better mobility.. they should be tonned down imo.

Because you need to know your class to be effective as an Engineer. It is a strong class but you cannot deal so much dmg without a certain effort.

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

I have no problems in seeing rangers viable. But THIS isnt viable, this is an apex defender spirit ranger with little to none skill floor and extremely effective. They need to be brought down, as Necromancer’s new deathshroud. Check SoloQ picks the majority is necros and rangers trying to hop in the overpowered bandwagon in order to get to the top.

I haven’t played Ranger in quite awhile so I’ll be honest. I don’t know how much skill it feels to play it as a Ranger. To play against it though? Doesn’t feel much different from BM or Trap other than it’s greater team presence. -Insert threat- that is not the Ranger itself and you’ll be on a meta ranger build. Traps? Back in Jan. Pet? BM. Spirit? Current.
Same kitten different day, Ranger has a build it’s not really about the Ranger, cope with it till nerfed in some fashion.

Velron.3729:

dovrak.4376:

Why aren’t engineers consider as op? They have similar access to burning plus confusion.. and they are as tanky as necros, less aoe but better mobility.. they should be tonned down imo.

Could be just because Engineer actually takes a little bit to master and really pull off that effectively…literally anyone can just make a Necro or Spirit Ranger and go faceroll.

I know, I’ve done it.

Go make a necro and spirit ranger, then record yourself and show us how faceroll it is.

Cause I know for one your going to find it hard.

Sol.4310:

Velron.3729:

dovrak.4376:

Why aren’t engineers consider as op? They have similar access to burning plus confusion.. and they are as tanky as necros, less aoe but better mobility.. they should be tonned down imo.

Could be just because Engineer actually takes a little bit to master and really pull off that effectively…literally anyone can just make a Necro or Spirit Ranger and go faceroll.

I know, I’ve done it.

Go make a necro and spirit ranger, then record yourself and show us how faceroll it is.

Cause I know for one your going to find it hard.

Not sure if serious…

As you can see, I said I already have done it. In fact its so easy I found it very boring and couldn’t believe people find it fun to play.

Well, came to this game hoping for something “esport viable” but this is really just a sad state of affairs. Red circles all over the objective area and the classes with the most aoe and conditions wins cause they are super strong. Time to look for a new game I guess… /sigh.

Sol.4310:

Marduh.4603:

Malpractice.7850:

Then a team does it, and kitten s. now its GG NERF RANGERS LOLOL THEY OP FOR 7 DAYS SO FAR OMGGG ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY.

Thief try to kill all spirit by spam aoe. Thief dead by double prock storm spirit 5k*2.
Thief kill spirit ranger. Instant self res. In this sense, even the engineers nervously smoking in aside.

Yes, they just monstrously OP.

Not a ranger’s fault your to stupid to kill the spirit’s at range in 2-3 hits with your SB then go into melee.

That’s just stupid they must be OP, learn to play.

I wish they died in 1-2 hits, but then I’m an ele so it takes half my cds :/ and I lose half my hp by the time its dead

i don’t understand this… Spirit rangers are hardly any problem on my warrior neither is necromancers generally, if they are more skilled i lose but same skill i win 70% of the times.

Also stop asking for nerfs for professions it ruins PvE/WvWvW builds and professions because some one is so bad at PvP they ask for nerf instead of modifying his build to actually kill those guys.

OPs words: “if you don’t kill the elite the ranger will just auto-ress…all the while laying fire fields on the point.”

You focus on the tree and you miss the forest,this guy has no idea what spirits do..

1.How do i lay fire fields on the point with Spirits?

2.Elite spirit doesnt just auto ress Ranger,Ranger must use the ress right before he gets downed,it has a casting time and you must use it 1,25 sec before you go down,you cant use it while you are down

Any other argument is invalid

Don’t understand why ppl try to defend spirit ranger and all other faceroll build.

Do u rly think is fine and fun to see multiple ranger and necro every SoloQ match?
Do u rly think the skillcap right now is fine (and it is the same for s/d thief, stunlock warrior etc) ?

This game right now is all about faceroll. Too much dmg, too much aoe, too much no brain build.

Hope anet is going to do something about balance, because right now the game is not rly fun to play.

Dardamaniac.1295:

2.Elite spirit doesnt just auto ress Ranger,Ranger must use the ress right before he gets downed,it has a casting time and you must use it 1,25 sec before you go down,you cant use it while you are down
Any other argument is invalid

And near instant self res.
Ok. It hard to do. Let’s say 50% success. But it “i win” button with 50% success.

Would be better if there was instant cast. That would be fair. After all, the spirit still need to cast.

Shakez.1934:

Well, came to this game hoping for something “esport viable” but this is really just a sad state of affairs. Red circles all over the objective area and the classes with the most aoe and conditions wins cause they are super strong. Time to look for a new game I guess… /sigh.

Perfect example of newcomers (he bought that 12 days ago) that come test out PvP and end up caught in the worst possible balance state since launch, causing a very bad impression. And all of this because Anet doesnt want to do balance in the middle of PAX.

Rek.3215:

Don’t understand why ppl try to defend spirit ranger and all other faceroll build.

Do u rly think is fine and fun to see multiple ranger and necro every SoloQ match?
Do u rly think the skillcap right now is fine (and it is the same for s/d thief, stunlock warrior etc) ?

This game right now is all about faceroll. Too much dmg, too much aoe, too much no brain build.

Hope anet is going to do something about balance, because right now the game is not rly fun to play.

I personaly defend the Spirits cause Spirits arent the problem,its empathetic bond being at a toughness/cond dmg traitline and its all this condition/tanky meta that forces nearly any class to play with conditions..And the additional access to burning its to strong right now
Rangers dont have the cond burst or cleave that Engin-Necros have so instead of that they bring support through spirits..
Spirits should always stay a support mechanic,if Anet tones down this cond meta and brings some more cond removal traiting into other traitlines you will see more interesting spirits and non spirits than the current one

Velron.3729:

dovrak.4376:

Why aren’t engineers consider as op? They have similar access to burning plus confusion.. and they are as tanky as necros, less aoe but better mobility.. they should be tonned down imo.

Could be just because Engineer actually takes a little bit to master and really pull off that effectively…literally anyone can just make a Necro or Spirit Ranger and go faceroll.

I know, I’ve done it.

This…few engineers can actually pull off what a necro can.
Spirit Ranger does need nerfed but i really hope they leave the rest of the ranger builds alone.

Azzer.8137:

i don’t understand this… Spirit rangers are hardly any problem on my warrior neither is necromancers generally, if they are more skilled i lose but same skill i win 70% of the times.

Also stop asking for nerfs for professions it ruins PvE/WvWvW builds and professions because some one is so bad at PvP they ask for nerf instead of modifying his build to actually kill those guys.

You obviouly do not play a warrior or you are fighting some extremely bad spirit rangers

Neare.9703:

Lighter.5631:

Jasher.6580:

Hawatak.8049:

When you begin to see 5 rangers teams, you SHOULD think there is a problem with the meta. Just sayin’ …

I’ve seen 5 Thief Teams, 5 Mesmer Teams (go team Mesmer), 5 Necro Teams, 5 Guardian Teams… and they all stomped people… This is not a reflection of “the meta”.

Spirit Rangers are good. But the way you are whining about them is stupid and unjustifiable. I’m hard pressed to think that you are a good player.

ever see a 5 warrior team stomp a team of necro, engi, ranger,mesmer in soloq?

Can I just say that Warriors are amazing right now in tpvp and they are currently the hardest counter to necro’s and engi’s.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahaahhahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahaha. Oh your serious. This is akward

Derps.7421:

Neare.9703:

Lighter.5631:

Jasher.6580:

Hawatak.8049:

When you begin to see 5 rangers teams, you SHOULD think there is a problem with the meta. Just sayin’ …

I’ve seen 5 Thief Teams, 5 Mesmer Teams (go team Mesmer), 5 Necro Teams, 5 Guardian Teams… and they all stomped people… This is not a reflection of “the meta”.

Spirit Rangers are good. But the way you are whining about them is stupid and unjustifiable. I’m hard pressed to think that you are a good player.

ever see a 5 warrior team stomp a team of necro, engi, ranger,mesmer in soloq?

Can I just say that Warriors are amazing right now in tpvp and they are currently the hardest counter to necro’s and engi’s.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahaahhahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahaha. Oh your serious. This is akward

I created a Warriors for yoloQ and it’s actually true. Even if i’m a bad Warrior, stunlock spec is a counter of Necros and Engis. And I’m pretty sure i could kill some rangers in a few.