Guild Wars 2

It completely decimates team fights. And the deathly claws + spinal shivers + fire proc + air proc is insane. I was playing bunker guard (clerics, virtues, 2926 armor) and managed to blind/block/dodge most of the attacks, but he hit me 1 time and it all proced for 11k.

The only solutions I’ve seen is to 1. have thief steal the stability and then have your team CC the lich to death (this is if your team isn’t tunnel visioned and can react quickly). or 2. just run.

Anyone else have any other ideas?

joust it… as in always be behind it. Also you can reflect its auto attacks

Moa Form XD

15 characters.

Moa, boon strips and CC, blinds, reflections, just leaving and coming back 30 seconds later. You can just focus it down with damage too, a lich can hit hard but it really isn’t all that tough.

Strafe. /thread

to elaborate a little,
the auto attack moves extremely slowly, aslong as the lich isn’t right on top of you you can simply strafe out of its path.
source: i play power necro alot

Liewec.2896:

Strafe. /thread

to elaborate a little,
the auto attack moves extremely slowly, aslong as the lich isn’t right on top of you you can simply strafe out of its path.
source: i play power necro alot

^ What he said. Strafe.

The easiest way of dealing with a lich is killing the necro, before he can even think of using it. Therefore the power-nec has focus priority. Moreover he can’t do kitten about it, since his fears neither hurt, nor last long.

Nevertheless you will have to deal with situations, in which the Lich is active and the necro can’t be bursted down: Reflect his skills, use blind, bind (step aside), dodge and block auto-attacks. In addition to that never, I repeat NEVER try to rezz against one, unless you happen to have something against the projectiles (like the guardian trait with the bubble opon rezz). Camping in the wells also kills you. In that case it is better to counter-cleave and deal some damage to your enemies – e. g. the friggin’ Lich.

Roe.3679:

Moa, boon strips and CC, blinds, reflections, just leaving and coming back 30 seconds later. You can just focus it down with damage too, a lich can hit hard but it really isn’t all that tough.

I feel like most counters are so situational. Even with all my blinds and blocks on guard, I got hit 1 time and was insta-downed. I feel like the best answer is thief stealing stab and cc’ing because every team has a trickery thief, but it needs to be done very quickly or you’re guaranteed to lose a player.

Weakness on lich = gg

FeelsAlright.5860:

Roe.3679:

Moa, boon strips and CC, blinds, reflections, just leaving and coming back 30 seconds later. You can just focus it down with damage too, a lich can hit hard but it really isn’t all that tough.

I feel like most counters are so situational. Even with all my blinds and blocks on guard, I got hit 1 time and was insta-downed. I feel like the best answer is thief stealing stab and cc’ing because every team has a trickery thief, but it needs to be done very quickly or you’re guaranteed to lose a player.

Ok, but that is situational too, to be downed by one hit. Plus that takes a lot of procs, although that doesn’t make it any more fun.

I just always pay attention to if the other team has necros and I save my skills that deal with lich for when they pop it. If the necro has minions or is swinging a scepter you know they aren’t likely to have lich, so if its a threat, be on the lookout.

Luckily for me I really counter lich form pretty hard. It’s pretty funny to me. After the lich is dealt with I tell my team to watch for a lich after 3 minutes on the game clock has passed from that moment.

Oh and lich has only 1 skill that can remove condis, and most never use it. So that is another strategy.

Have guardian put up prot if available. Strafe autos from range and have thief/engi apply blind field if they have it. Thief/mesmer/necro can strip stability and you can cc it to death at that point.

If there are two lich in a fight just peace and win every other fight for the next 3 minutes.

as a guardian you should put up aegis + prot (stab if youre traited for it) and then sanctuary immediately. in some situations the sanctuary will completely destroy the lich’s attacks and he will just drop out of it since he isnt doing any dmg for 8 seconds. also, your shield bubble will block lich attacks which grants your team another 4 seconds with a much larger radius of projectile destruction.

tichorum.2415:

Weakness on lich = gg

Weakness is golden on lich, but make sure you can apply it AFTER he uses the condi clear/boon rip skill (#5 if i remember).

Chokolata.1870:

joust it… as in always be behind it. Also you can reflect its auto attacks

that wont work, lichs can shoot looking the other way.

You said you were a bunker guardian? Well the first time you fight it might catch you off guard but if you can, save your aegis virtue, your focus or shield 5 renewed focus, also yime your dodges with your sigils of energyand the dodges it gives. If youbhabe a necro/thief/mesmer that can boon strip it then you can CC the heck out of it. Additionally a team that is coordinated should focus the hell out of them especially the zerker ones where you can 3 shot em.

Slininstien.7546:

You said you were a bunker guardian? Well the first time you fight it might catch you off guard but if you can, save your aegis virtue, your focus or shield 5 renewed focus, also yime your dodges with your sigils of energyand the dodges it gives. If youbhabe a necro/thief/mesmer that can boon strip it then you can CC the heck out of it. Additionally a team that is coordinated should focus the hell out of them especially the zerker ones where you can 3 shot em.

I did save all of those, and managed to escape the first 10 seconds… he hit me 1 time and it procced 11k damage…

if you can confirm that it is a power necro before the match starts you can bring wall of reflect and totally screw him over.

I steal the stability as a thief but yeah…. it’s a symptom of a greater issue. Anet made it so that the only viable builds are cheesy bullkitten.

i just run, hide behind pillars

meh… mesmers and thieves can take their stability and necro can even corrupt it.

As soon as they don’t have stability you can play flipper with them and they can either leave lich form or they are dead.

Apart from that the lich form teamfight-winbutton-thingy only really works when people ball which usually only happens if people are trying to rez (or are just stupid but hey). If you get the power necro down before somebody from your team goes down, which should be possible considering they are very easy targets, he won’t be able to pull off any team wiping things.

I find the 20s CD , 900 range , INSTA ninja , stabilty #1 priority , 1s daze + whatever is stolen ….. did i miss anything ? … well lets just say i find it better

Just to say, i play both necro and thief, but thief is THE APEX PREDATOR to all other zerkers.
Losing 1 teamfight to lich every 180s , means u can win 2x other teamfights if u focus the necro. Like i often win the 1st teamfight, but then they know the trick and go for me, and were mostly losing untill my elite is up again. Then its a lucky finish of bosses/tempel buff etc.

Lich Form locks the necro out of all their utilities and their Death Shroud- All they have left is two dodges. Just start absolutely beating the crap out of him, and you’ll wear through the bonus vitality soon enough. He’ll either go down, or he’ll switch out so that he doesn’t- either way, threat neutralized.

He’s also out of tricks if you throw up a reflect or maintain good blinds. If you’re at range from him and keep moving, you can just walk out of the way of his autoattacks.

Remove stability..cc him.

Run into and through the necro again and again and the attacks wont hit – easy.

blind and immobilize

The team should focus the necro as soon as lich form appears. He’s pretty big and hard to miss in lich form, and also zerk if he’kittenting hard, shouldn’t last too long.

Also Moa morph annoys the hell out of them

Ways to deal with lich form:

• Boon removal-Stability is the only boon that a lich has for them selves. Thief, Mesmer, or another necro can deal with that easily enough
• Blind-Lich has only one condi removal
• Weakness-Several classes can inflict weakness with weakness on a lich they go from dealing 5k auto attacks to 900-1k. Much easier to deal with. Mesmer, ele, necro, thief, warrior should be able to do that
• Focus Fire- If someone pops lich in a team fight stop targeting whoever you have targeted and go after the lich.

That should be plenty of counters to lich also if you do have boon removal they can be thrown around the point like a giant green ping pong ball.