Guild Wars 2

Move Shattered Conditions to being either a master or even an adept trait, and maybe move it to illusions.

/fixed

Arganthium.5638:

Move Shattered Conditions to being either a master or even an adept trait, and maybe move it to illusions.

/fixed

And/or move cleansing conflagration out of dom…. Condition weapon traits in a full power line. Makes sense amirite?

Make distortion negate condition damage o_o…

Or create a Grandmaster trait deep in Inspiration which acts like Empathetic Bond.

“Phantasms periodically takes conditions from you”
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The tradeoff is that the Phantasms ultimately die faster due to the DoT’s.
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You can call it “Spirit Mending”

I’m okay with Conditions with the Domination Cleansing Conflagration IX trait…
Arcane thievery and Runes of Lyssa
Nullfiled would be good if it was burst removal, but no it’s like.. 1 per second snooze.
Make Nullfield strip all condies instantly plz or atleast 5 ?

Arcane thievery way better, goodbye 16 bleeds, Hello Crazy dps.

Darnis.4056:

I’m okay with Conditions with the Domination Cleansing Conflagration IX trait…
Arcane thievery and Runes of Lyssa
Nullfiled would be good if it was burst removal, but no it’s like.. 1 per second snooze.
Make Nullfield strip all condies instantly plz or atleast 5 ?

Arcane thievery way better, goodbye 16 bleeds, Hello Crazy dps.

Arcane thievery is okay but has too long of a CD for it to be used particularly often as a condi cleanser. It also doesn’t help when necros actually heal for more when they have condis on them. -_-

Nullfield is also eh IMO, but at least it’s slightly more reliable and it’s an AoE.

Arganthium.5638:

Move Shattered Conditions to being either a master or even an adept trait, and maybe move it to illusions.

/fixed

omg dude, no….just no!
I know you might be frustrated about the situation, but this is too much.

Think about the famous 20/20/0/0/30. Yep, the one that can be countered well only by conditions.
With your idea you have:
damage/conf/daze + boon removal + cond removal (Aoe) + confusion + might

Or just think about a 10/20/0/20/20 with sc in the master trait.
With this you have:
damage/conf/daze + permaVigor (Aoe) + Cond removal (Aoe) + confusion + might
or
0/20/0/30/20:
damage (less)/conf/daze + permaVigor (Aoe) + Cond removal (Aoe) + Aoe Heal + confusion + might.

The QQ threads will make the nerf hammer hit us so hard that all our skills will change to “suicide yourself”

I tell you, shattered condition is this powerful that is good where it is. So you are force to either time your shatter well (cause they don’t do a lot of damage) or run a phantasm/hybrid build: with only deceptive evasion + mirror image + the 2 clone generating skills you can cleanse 6 (six) conditions (plus damage/conf/daze/inv) in less than two seconds w/o even summoning your phantasms (with the love of all the necros that spam everything they’ve got at the beginning of the fight).

Speaking about that, I’m not this good to try, nor I play tpvp with a team; but in a condi meta like the one we are living now, a more “bunker” played mesmer does not sound that bad.

I mean like a 0/20/0/30/20 played only for survivability:

vigorous revelation and shattered conditions for Aoe PermaVigor and tons of Aoe Condi-cleanse
staff for mobility and chaos armor
maybe glamour mastery and null field to even more condi and buff cleanse and more chaos armor
and retal on shatter#2.

Did someone ever tried something like that in team play?

Basticida.4375:

Speaking about that, I’m not this good to try, nor I play tpvp with a team; but in a condi meta like the one we are living now, a more “bunker” played mesmer does not sound that bad.

I mean like a 0/20/0/30/20 played only for survivability:

vigorous revelation and shattered conditions for Aoe PermaVigor and tons of Aoe Condi-cleanse
staff for mobility and chaos armor
maybe glamour mastery and null field to even more condi and buff cleanse and more chaos armor
and retal on shatter#2.

Did someone ever tried something like that in team play?

Yes.

And my answer is a definite no.

jportell.2197:

Arganthium.5638:

Move Shattered Conditions to being either a master or even an adept trait, and maybe move it to illusions.

/fixed

And/or move cleansing conflagration out of dom…. Condition weapon traits in a full power line. Makes sense amirite?

don’t try to find sense in a game made by anet lol look at Confusion Cry which is a condi shatter that applies reta which scales 100% with power lmao. They weren’t thinking at all when placing/creating traits.

Stronger mantras. That is all.

What i would like is a new minor Master trait that removes a condition on summoned illusion. Removes one condition on a 5sec ICD. This should be placed in Domination, Dazzling combined with Illusion of Vulnerability and become minor Adept trait.

uberkingkong.8041:

Stronger mantras. That is all.

Stronger Mantra of Resolve (perhaps remove 3 per charge), and perhaps a buff to Mender’s Purity (remove 2 rather than 1) would really be all that the Mesmer needs to get the condi Cleanse they need. With those 2 things available plus the possibility to run P-Disenchanter or Shattered Conditions I think there would be enough cleanse available through multiple different choices.

Some time ago i made this build, trying to find a way to keep using my mesmer on tourneys even with the cond spam-meta.
Its not like i’m immune to conditions now, way far from that, but still i can do quite good against condition users.

It more a phantasm mesmer rather than a shatter, but since they will die soon anyway in a teamfight, they can be shattered to remove conditions and give vigor.