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Posted by: ellesee.8297

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A few months ago an Anet dev released a video of him and Grouch giving some speech on how they can make GW2 more competitive citing CSGO, Dota, and LoL as examples! Well I posted in that thread with no dev reply about basic fundamentals that all these esports games have that makes them competitive that GW2 lacks: visible MMR, good matchmaking, leagues, rewards! These characteristics make these games extremely competitive and it makes the game look very appealing to newer players who like to compete! I will only make comparisons to CSGO because that is the game I am familiar with but I know for a fact that the other 2 games all have these features!

Anet has stated on multiple occasions that their reasoning for not implementing visible MMR is they think people will BM each other over their rating! To me this is beyond ridiculous! This is the Internet! People will troll and badmouth each other but there is a block feature that completely negates all of that and a report feature for the kids that get out of hand! Not implementing an amazing and necessary feature as a solution for BM is simply not a solution at all! You’re depriving the many of an awesome feature to protect the feelings of a few players! And newsflash! BM happens anyway! We literally get none of the good aspects and all of the bad!

I really like CSGO’s handling of MMR! Instead of a numerical rating, your MMR is displayed as a rank! When you play matchmaking, you will only get paired up with people of the same or near your rank! GW2’s matchmaking pairs up high rated players with low rated players! How does that even happen!

Visible MMR is an important part of the strive to become a better PvPer! In CSGO, most, if not all, matchmaking players constantly try to get better and advance their rank! There are servers that are dedicated just to bettering your aim and they are always packed! There are servers that are dedicated to bettering your game sense and awareness and they are always packed! If GW2 adopted something similar to the CSGO ranking system, you could reward players for achieving a rank with titles and unique armor and weapon skins! These rewards will promote getting better at PvP instead of the current system of receiving chests inside chests inside chests inside chests just for AFKing a game!

Anet has also promised us leagues but has never delivered or even mentioned the subject since then! There are dozens of leagues in CSGO! The most popular one has a monthly fee! People are willing to pay money every month for a league system! If this isn’t an indication that you guys need to get on that, then I don’t know what is! A simple league system can be just a few tiers! A team can sign up as five players with one substitute and be placed in a certain tier based on the average MMR of all the players on the team! Then over the course of a season, which can be just a month, they play a certain amount of games and based on their performance, they can advance a tier, they can be demoted, or they can remain in the same tier! Rewards like unique titles and skins can be given to teams who reach a certain tier! Maybe at the end of each month you can stream the teams with the best records going against each other to determine the champion of that tier! That team can receive additional unique titles, skins, and gems as prizes! Everything about this system promotes bettering yourself and your GW2 skillz and it rewards you for that and that alone! We may even see some new teams with fresh faces enter and rejuvenate the stagnant high level PvP scene!

Like I said, these are some basic characteristics that make games competitive and literally every single esports game or most viewed competitive games on Twitch have these features! And then to give a speech wondering why this game isn’t competitive… it’s just beyond me! I don’t think these features would even be hard to implement as an understaffed department but that’s just my uninformed opinion! Anyway that’s my rant for the month and I don’t expect a dev reply so…

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TLDR: Game needs visible MMR, leagues, better matchmaking, rewards for getting better at PvP

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Posted by: online.1278

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you are vee wee right? my answer is that, drama, absolutely lol the game should provide the posibility of letting people making some kinda drama.i think all you say is about “I want drama!” in just long sentences

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Posted by: BlazinFyre.2410

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vee wee for all we know these could be coming next patch because only giving ambiguous answers and having no transparency about anything you do is a job requirement for working at arenanet. sarcasm aside, these are good suggestions and would give people a reason to queue

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Posted by: Sube Dai.8496

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Yep +1

kitten I plus 1’d veewee!

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Posted by: Ristillath.6745

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+1

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Posted by: ellesee.8297

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Here’s hoping for a dev response!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

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Posted by: Lowest Animal.8014

Lowest Animal.8014

pls groucharoo pls

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Posted by: Drennon.7190

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+1

I want an in-game goal to work towards.

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

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We’ve actually significantly regressed in recent months with the removal of solo queue, the frozen leaderboards, and the forced queueing from inside HotM.

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Posted by: duster.7013

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Id use sc2 ladder over cs ladder.

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Posted by: Ominous.7583

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I’d like this I haven’t done a lot of pvp and as much as I love this game there is a lot of care bear nonsense the devs do that are not needed. I’m honest surprised the other team can see stuff we type in say to be honest

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

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Its too late now. There is a finite number of pvpers who got this game. They will be so put off now that they won’t ever come back. Its like opening a restaurant and giving everyone food poisoning. Those people will not return to that restaurant even if it gets everything it needs to offer a good eating experience.

The same is true with gw2 pvp. Its too late. Way too late. They are better off pushing down the same casual orientated direction with good pve rewards in pvp.

Anet aren’t stupid. They know what they are doing and the game as a whole is a big success. So fair enough to them. If you don’t like it them just leave.

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Posted by: Sube Dai.8496

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Its too late now. There is a finite number of pvpers who got this game. They will be so put off now that they won’t ever come back. Its like opening a restaurant and giving everyone food poisoning. Those people will not return to that restaurant even if it gets everything it needs to offer a good eating experience.

The same is true with gw2 pvp. Its too late. Way too late. They are better off pushing down the same casual orientated direction with good pve rewards in pvp.

Anet aren’t stupid. They know what they are doing and the game as a whole is a big success. So fair enough to them. If you don’t like it them just leave.

I don’t think they know what they’re doing at all. They waste several hundred grand on “world tournaments” that get less viewers than a gvg…

That money could easily go towards a working leaderboard instead. They would also need a f2p version if they were serious about esports.

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

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I agree with you Vee Wee. If that was really their explanation for hiding MMR I’m actually infuriated.

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Posted by: GoogleBrandon.5073

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I don’t think they know what they’re doing at all. They waste several hundred grand on “world tournaments” that get less viewers than a gvg…

That money could easily go towards a working leaderboard instead. They would also need a f2p version if they were serious about esports.

The money did however not come from Anet, but from a sponsor. So it is kind of impossible to fuel development with it as it is against the agreement.

I also wish for a better competitive infrastructure, but you gotta cut Anet slack where it is due.

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