Guild Wars 2

algorithm gets the outcome of the match right 95% of the kitten time. I’m tired of being saddled with kitten like this.

I have noticed a good number of time that my odds of winning are greatly reduced with a 2 thief team…possibly just coincidence but ya

pistol pistol thiefs right?

That team…the squishyness!

Is it daily Thief Winner?

Thieves are so OP they broke themselves. lol

Dixo.3876:

algorithm gets the outcome of the match right 95% of the kitten time. I’m tired of being saddled with kitten like this.

You got 2 thieves and other Mes, yet you don’t swap class yourself. Don’t complain please.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought swapping classes gives you dishonor these days?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Class-swap-gives-no-win

I am not absolutely sure, but I think Dixo only plays mesmer.

Dixo.3876:

Dixo.3876:

algorithm gets the outcome of the match right 95% of the kitten time. I’m tired of being saddled with kitten like this.

You got 2 thieves and other Mes, yet you don’t swap class yourself. Don’t complain please.

NICENIKESHOE.7128:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought swapping classes gives you dishonor these days?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Class-swap-gives-no-win

01/13/15 – January 13th Release Notes : Added an accumulating grace period for disconnects, allowing players to reconnect and finish the game without receiving dishonor or taking a loss.

Morwath.9817:

Dixo.3876:

algorithm gets the outcome of the match right 95% of the kitten time. I’m tired of being saddled with kitten like this.

You got 2 thieves and other Mes, yet you don’t swap class yourself. Don’t complain please.

Why should we even have to change class? The way Anet told us was that class-stacking would be eliminated mostly while solo queue’ing.
Yet, I get stacked teams all the time.
It’s a fault in the matchmaking, not the players.
So ye, we complain because we shouldn’t be the one altering classes, that would defy the way the matchmaking works after all.

Terrorsquad.2349:

Morwath.9817:

Dixo.3876:

algorithm gets the outcome of the match right 95% of the kitten time. I’m tired of being saddled with kitten like this.

You got 2 thieves and other Mes, yet you don’t swap class yourself. Don’t complain please.

Why should we even have to change class? The way Anet told us was that class-stacking would be eliminated mostly while solo queue’ing.
Yet, I get stacked teams all the time.
It’s a fault in the matchmaking, not the players.
So ye, we complain because we shouldn’t be the one altering classes, that would defy the way the matchmaking works after all.

Because MM can’t handle daily class wins. You can’t evenly redistrubute classes to avoid class stacking if it’s daily class and 30% of ppl play it at given time.

Morwath.9817:

Terrorsquad.2349:

Morwath.9817:

Dixo.3876:

algorithm gets the outcome of the match right 95% of the kitten time. I’m tired of being saddled with kitten like this.

You got 2 thieves and other Mes, yet you don’t swap class yourself. Don’t complain please.

Why should we even have to change class? The way Anet told us was that class-stacking would be eliminated mostly while solo queue’ing.
Yet, I get stacked teams all the time.
It’s a fault in the matchmaking, not the players.
So ye, we complain because we shouldn’t be the one altering classes, that would defy the way the matchmaking works after all.

Because MM can’t handle daily class wins. You can’t evenly redistrubute classes to avoid class stacking if it’s daily class and 30% of ppl play it at given time.

Exactly, but does it make it our fault for all this to happen?

Terrorsquad.2349:

Morwath.9817:

Terrorsquad.2349:

Morwath.9817:

Dixo.3876:

algorithm gets the outcome of the match right 95% of the kitten time. I’m tired of being saddled with kitten like this.

You got 2 thieves and other Mes, yet you don’t swap class yourself. Don’t complain please.

Why should we even have to change class? The way Anet told us was that class-stacking would be eliminated mostly while solo queue’ing.
Yet, I get stacked teams all the time.
It’s a fault in the matchmaking, not the players.
So ye, we complain because we shouldn’t be the one altering classes, that would defy the way the matchmaking works after all.

Because MM can’t handle daily class wins. You can’t evenly redistrubute classes to avoid class stacking if it’s daily class and 30% of ppl play it at given time.

Exactly, but does it make it our fault for all this to happen?

Yes and no.
Yes, because it’s up to player what class they are playing and if they are willing to switch when they are allowed to.
No, because Anet reward playing certain classes (daily ones), however it’s again player fault, since it’s not like they have to do it in ranked.

Morwath.9817:

Terrorsquad.2349:

Morwath.9817:

Terrorsquad.2349:

Morwath.9817:

Dixo.3876:

algorithm gets the outcome of the match right 95% of the kitten time. I’m tired of being saddled with kitten like this.

You got 2 thieves and other Mes, yet you don’t swap class yourself. Don’t complain please.

Why should we even have to change class? The way Anet told us was that class-stacking would be eliminated mostly while solo queue’ing.
Yet, I get stacked teams all the time.
It’s a fault in the matchmaking, not the players.
So ye, we complain because we shouldn’t be the one altering classes, that would defy the way the matchmaking works after all.

Because MM can’t handle daily class wins. You can’t evenly redistrubute classes to avoid class stacking if it’s daily class and 30% of ppl play it at given time.

Exactly, but does it make it our fault for all this to happen?

Yes and no.
Yes, because it’s up to player what class they are playing and if they are willing to switch when they are allowed to.
No, because Anet reward playing certain classes (daily ones), however it’s again player fault, since it’s not like they have to do it in ranked.

Yes but see the bigger picture we’re talking about;
if a player decides to play Mesmer because he wants to and gets grouped up with 3 other mesmers cuz #LELmatchmaking, how is that the fault of the player?
It is the matchmaking settings which are currently set wrong.

I do know together with Class Dailies it’s quite impossible. But this has been happening 24/7, it’s not normal anymore. I can provide you over 100 screenshots with all class stacked solo’ers in match. I always take screenshots of them and collect.

This ain’t normal anymore.
Max 1 class of each in solo q, all I ask.

Terrorsquad.2349:

This ain’t normal anymore.
Max 1 class of each in solo q, all I ask.

That would mean 10 min ques for non-daily classes and 30 min ques for daily classes.
Swapping is really that kittence youre stacked?

Morwath.9817:

Terrorsquad.2349:

This ain’t normal anymore.
Max 1 class of each in solo q, all I ask.

That would mean 10 min ques for non-daily classes and 30 min ques for daily classes.
Swapping is really that kittence youre stacked?

Or remove these “dailies”, problems solved

maddoctor.2738:

Morwath.9817:

Terrorsquad.2349:

This ain’t normal anymore.
Max 1 class of each in solo q, all I ask.

That would mean 10 min ques for non-daily classes and 30 min ques for daily classes.
Swapping is really that kittence youre stacked?

Or remove these “dailies”, problems solved

^this

maddoctor.2738:

Morwath.9817:

Terrorsquad.2349:

This ain’t normal anymore.
Max 1 class of each in solo q, all I ask.

That would mean 10 min ques for non-daily classes and 30 min ques for daily classes.
Swapping is really that kittence youre stacked?

Or remove these “dailies”, problems solved

It won’t solve anything, because then you will have wait times split by meta classes and non-meta classes.

Morwath.9817:

Terrorsquad.2349:

This ain’t normal anymore.
Max 1 class of each in solo q, all I ask.

That would mean 10 min ques for non-daily classes and 30 min ques for daily classes.
Swapping is really that kittence youre stacked?

I don’t have to remind you what happens if you swap classes soon with dishonor incoming, right?

Morwath.9817:

Terrorsquad.2349:

This ain’t normal anymore.
Max 1 class of each in solo q, all I ask.

That would mean 10 min ques for non-daily classes and 30 min ques for daily classes.
Swapping is really that kittence youre stacked?

Are you saying the solution for class stacking is us players playing something we might not even know anything about just to avoid it? I don’t know but in my mind preventing the class stacking due to a funcitonal matchmaking is a far better idea. And btw, I keep having games where I have two mesmers on my team while the other team has two thieves. That’s hardly a player’s fault.

Laraley.7695:

Morwath.9817:

Terrorsquad.2349:

This ain’t normal anymore.
Max 1 class of each in solo q, all I ask.

That would mean 10 min ques for non-daily classes and 30 min ques for daily classes.
Swapping is really that kittence youre stacked?

Are you saying the solution for class stacking is us players playing something we might not even know anything about just to avoid it? I don’t know but in my mind preventing the class stacking due to a funcitonal matchmaking is a far better idea. And btw, I keep having games where I have two mesmers on my team while the other team has two thieves. That’s hardly a player’s fault.

^he gets it

Arenanet pls…

Terrorsquad.2349:

Morwath.9817:

Dixo.3876:

algorithm gets the outcome of the match right 95% of the kitten time. I’m tired of being saddled with kitten like this.

You got 2 thieves and other Mes, yet you don’t swap class yourself. Don’t complain please.

Why should we even have to change class? The way Anet told us was that class-stacking would be eliminated mostly while solo queue’ing.
Yet, I get stacked teams all the time.
It’s a fault in the matchmaking, not the players.
So ye, we complain because we shouldn’t be the one altering classes, that would defy the way the matchmaking works after all.

Yes, because match making system will magically poop out other classes out of their kitten

in dueling room, 60% of them are thieves and if you are playing a thief theres a huge chance of getting 2 or 3 thieves including you in SoloQ.

GG really.

and it is also why i don’t play my thief anymore even it’s my second main, let alone how heavily they rely on broken mechanics ( trickery steal)

a perfect example for thief in this game : Quick scopers in Call of duty, if any one have an idea lol.

Simon.3794:

Terrorsquad.2349:

Morwath.9817:

Dixo.3876:

algorithm gets the outcome of the match right 95% of the kitten time. I’m tired of being saddled with kitten like this.

You got 2 thieves and other Mes, yet you don’t swap class yourself. Don’t complain please.

Why should we even have to change class? The way Anet told us was that class-stacking would be eliminated mostly while solo queue’ing.
Yet, I get stacked teams all the time.
It’s a fault in the matchmaking, not the players.
So ye, we complain because we shouldn’t be the one altering classes, that would defy the way the matchmaking works after all.

Yes, because match making system will magically poop out other classes out of their kitten

in dueling room, 60% of them are thieves and if you are playing a thief theres a huge chance of getting 2 or 3 thieves including you in SoloQ.

GG really.

I get your point but don’t tell me there are only 10 people in a queue at the time. I guess sometimes it can be difficult not to stack classes but this could be toned down quite easily. Remove class specific dailies, adding this has made no sense since the beginning. Also, as stated above, I’ve had two mesmers on my team while the other team had two thieves. Unless they queue together, its the matchmaking system’s fault.

The OP swapping class is irrelevant as no matter what class he brought he’d of still lost.

They were essentially playing a 3v5. The thieves couldn’t even get in a sneaky back cap let alone support a flip with a kill.

I didn’t post the screenshot because of the class stacking but because I had two players who were so bad that they accomplished not one useful thing the entire match. Don’t get me wrong the scoreboard doesn’t necessarily reflect a players contributions, but how do you go the whole game without participating in a kill or at least decapping a point.

You can’ t have 5 1500 players (average) on one side verus 3 2000 players (above average) and 2 750 players (terrible) and call it a fair match because both teams average to 1500.

Don’t get me wrong class stacking is a problem. I agree that daily class wins are a part of the problem here. Besides the fact that dailys exist there is the problem that a casual player doesn’t realize they are throwing a big wrench in the system. With the pvp revamp blog post we were promised fair matches and class specific MMR. I can totally see why san uninformed player might log onto a class for a daily; so what if I’m no good at thief, my thief MMR is low so I’ll play against other low MMR players since the system is suppose to put me in a fair match. It’s not like they had a grand announcement that they actually don’t have class MMR

I didn’t change classes because I don’t have anything else I am good at to change too for one. Another reason is that while it’s allowed now the intent is to not allow switching in the future. Another reason is that shouldn’t have too change classes because of composition. The system is supposed to not stack classes like this.

I have changed builds before to something more tanky with a chance of holding a point. It works if the other people rotate to you and can actually kill something. I’ve learned my lesson on trying that though. Most of the time when I try it my teamates don’t manage to focus a target or they all run off and don’t roatate back to me before I’m overwhelmed.

Morwath.9817:

NICENIKESHOE.7128:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought swapping classes gives you dishonor these days?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Class-swap-gives-no-win

01/13/15 – January 13th Release Notes : Added an accumulating grace period for disconnects, allowing players to reconnect and finish the game without receiving dishonor or taking a loss.

i believe it was clarified that switching class will make you receive no LB points. and that if you do reconnect it must be with the same character.

It’s all about having % chance to win. You have X% chance of winning. Don’t blame Justin if you couldn’t pull it off.