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Posted by: Brutalistik.6473

Brutalistik.6473

Do they really need buffing though or is someone in the office experimenting on that profession? I like mesmer juice too, but adding a lot of much sugar may override it’s flavor.

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Posted by: Wile.5024

Wile.5024

Short answer to your short post: yes, they need buffing

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

Yes they need buffing. But they are buffing the wrong thing. They need to buff diversity. If these changes go through we are going to be OP guaranteed.

I play Mesmer as my main.

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Posted by: Brutalistik.6473

Brutalistik.6473

I would like if they buff in diversity overall lol. That’s like my pvp dream, but back on topic. If they’re buffing them in the wrong directions then heck we will see nothing, but Mesmers in hotjoins.

What are they buffing though? Just curious.

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Posted by: Ithilwen.1529

Ithilwen.1529

@Jasher

I’ve seen your posts several times. You seem to make a habit of calling for nerfs to Mesmer and it’s really annoying.

It is not “cool” to demand underpowered builds. Nor does it show “skill.” Some of us would like to go into a match with a good chance of winning.

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Posted by: Quadox.7834

Quadox.7834

Yes they need buffing. But they are buffing the wrong thing. They need to buff diversity. If these changes go through we are going to be OP guaranteed.

I play Mesmer as my main.

You say that by looking at the mesmer changes, but if you would actually look at the other changes as well (thief especially), you would see why mesmer isn’t op, rather it is necro and maybe ele who are UP. (post patch of course).

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

@Jasher

I’ve seen your posts several times. You seem to make a habit of calling for nerfs to Mesmer and it’s really annoying.

1. You’re lying.
2. I have mostly asked for buffs to Mesmers because I play Mesmer.
3. The fact that you’re lying is annoying.
4. Anyone who knows me would probably laugh at what you just said because it would be idiotic for me to want my class nerfed.
5. Recently I was even toying with the idea on the forums of making shatters trigger invulnerability on clones and/or allowing them super speed on activation.
6. I even had a huge post asking for ArenaNet to make condition Mesmers viable.
7. I have always castigated AreaNet for making Mesmers the least versatile class in the game in competitive arena since inception.

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Posted by: Ithilwen.1529

Ithilwen.1529

You just opposed the current round of buffs to Mesmer. You’re claiming Mesmer will be OP, ante facto. That’s in effect a call for a nerf.

I was among those who waited for more than a year for any kind of help for Mesmer.

For you to oppose the Mesmer buffs in advance is counter productive. The Six Gods know that ANET loves to nerf Mesmer. They don’t need any encouragement.

-edit- OK I’m overreacting. My favorite build will no longer exist because it annoyed a dev. Not because it was unbalanced.. because it annoyed a dev. Seriously though, please don’t put out predictions of Mesmer being OP. We have more than enough people hating us already for doing what they don’t understand.

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Posted by: Brutalistik.6473

Brutalistik.6473

What are they buffing though? Builds or certain abilities that may have longer durations?

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

You just opposed the current round of buffs to Mesmer. You’re claiming Mesmer will be OP, ante facto. That’s in effect a call for a nerf.

Agreed. But that is the first time I’ve ever said something like that. Your original statement said that I make a habit of calling for nerfs for Mesmers which is a big fat lie.

I genuinely feel however that these changes will buff Shatter which will make it too strong. That is my opinion.

The areas where Mesmers needed buffs BADLY, we aren’t getting it which is extremely disappointing. As a matter of fact, these changes will nerf existing builds like Countless’ tripple signet build.

With an organized group and a Thief roaming combo, yes I think these changes are going to be OP. I would be lying if I said otherwise.

I am going to play the hell out of it though… but the tears are going to flow and in true ArenaNet fashion they are going to drop a sledgehammer and it is going to tick me off.

I rather them tweak things now than knee-jerk later and overdo things like they always do.

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Posted by: Quadox.7834

Quadox.7834

You just opposed the current round of buffs to Mesmer. You’re claiming Mesmer will be OP, ante facto. That’s in effect a call for a nerf.

Agreed. But that is the first time I’ve ever said something like that. Your original statement said that I make a habit of calling for nerfs for Mesmers which is a big fat lie.

I genuinely feel however that these changes will buff Shatter which will make it too strong. That is my opinion.

The areas where Mesmers needed buffs BADLY, we aren’t getting it which is extremely disappointing. As a matter of fact, these changes will nerf existing builds like Countless’ tripple signet build.

With an organized group and a Thief roaming combo, yes I think these changes are going to be OP. I would be lying if I said otherwise.

I am going to play the hell out of it though… but the tears are going to flow and in true ArenaNet fashion they are going to drop a sledgehammer and it is going to tick me off.

I rather them tweak things now than knee-jerk later and overdo things like they always do.

Again you need to consider other classes will get huge buffs as well. Mesmers will have a hard time even surviving vs thief

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Posted by: Ithilwen.1529

Ithilwen.1529

I have to agree, with engis getting the winning lotto ticket. The outlook isn’t really that good.

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

Again you need to consider other classes will get huge buffs as well. Mesmers will have a hard time even surviving vs thief

Good point. The power creep is real.

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Posted by: Archaon.9524

Archaon.9524

they’re giving thief executioner AND panic strike on the same line too, so all is still vain anyway

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

Honestly, I’ve been so frustrated with Mesmer for so long I’m half tempted to switch mains. Probably switch to my secondary class which I also play at a decent level. sigh.

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Posted by: Quadox.7834

Quadox.7834

I agree with some things, but they did actually give mesmers buff in some ways they needed. More specifically, AOE blind and weakness is good vs thieves.

Edit: Also protection

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Posted by: Aylpse.6280

Aylpse.6280

The PU buffs scare me, as a Mesmer; more then anything else.
“100% stealth duration”
I am not a fan of stealth games. PU can be delt with now easily, it lacks instant bursts. You only have to count to two or three and then stealth yourself to counter it.

With that change, they could be in stealth for 12 seconds, its like a Shadow Refuge where they have time to set up clones and potentially oneshot a Zerker from stealth, Mind you, normal Shatter can almost do this. Add boons to the mix and the mesmer being untargetable most of the fight.

Shatter Burst from Stealth → 8-10 Might, go into stealth after revealed, summon phantams (boosted 15% baseline ontop of the might, as a lockdown mes I can say even untraited now with 10 stacks they hit hard.) If this isn’t enough to finish them off, they can burst again at any given moment.

I understand this is all on paper and not in practice, but my point still stands.

Taking the higher moral ground since 1993.

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Posted by: Meglobob.8620

Meglobob.8620

Enter the Chronomancer:-

•Chronomancers have access to an effect called Alacrity which reduces cooldowns. Only Chronomancers will have access to this effect (could this mean each Elite Specialisation will have access to a unique effect?)
•Chronomancer’s have access to a 5th Shatter skill: Continuum Split / Continuum Shift. Activating this the first time shatters all of your illusions and records your health, endurance, cooldowns (even elite skills) at the time of activation. After the duration – based off of the number of shattered illusions – is over, the Mesmer reverts to these values.
•The Off-hand Shield skills are called Echo of memory and Tides of Time. Tides of Time launches a wave, absorbing all projectiles, stunning foes and granting Quickness to allies. This wave then returns, applying the same effects. If you pass through the wall on the return trip, a portion of the cooldown is refunded.
•Chronomancers get 4 Time Wells. One well causes all attacks to become unblockable. After the Well ends, allies gain evade for a short time.

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Posted by: Quadox.7834

Quadox.7834

Enter the Chronomancer:-

•Chronomancers have access to an effect called Alacrity which reduces cooldowns. Only Chronomancers will have access to this effect (could this mean each Elite Specialisation will have access to a unique effect?)
•Chronomancer’s have access to a 5th Shatter skill: Continuum Split / Continuum Shift. Activating this the first time shatters all of your illusions and records your health, endurance, cooldowns (even elite skills) at the time of activation. After the duration – based off of the number of shattered illusions – is over, the Mesmer reverts to these values.
•The Off-hand Shield skills are called Echo of memory and Tides of Time. Tides of Time launches a wave, absorbing all projectiles, stunning foes and granting Quickness to allies. This wave then returns, applying the same effects. If you pass through the wall on the return trip, a portion of the cooldown is refunded.
•Chronomancers get 4 Time Wells. One well causes all attacks to become unblockable. After the Well ends, allies gain evade for a short time.

If i hear a single person complaining that this is op i will hunt them down personally >:)

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

It is very overpowered

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Posted by: choovanski.5462

choovanski.5462

It is very overpowered

look I don’t play mesmer, but I know ya’ll do- I want you playing this spec if you are on my team. warrior or engineer there is some dope kitten we will be able to pull off. quickness me up reduce the cooldowns on my healing shouts oh yeah, it’s gonna be power.

also ya’ll are gonna reset the cooldowns so you can double moa right? it’s a good idea

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