Guild Wars 2

I haven’t done spvp since launch. I copied a warrior spec from metabattle and tried a match today and to say that it went terribly would be an understatement.

I could barely dent lifebars, people were basically immortal. My evis hit for garbage even when it was auto crit.

Is the spec bad for what I’m trying to do or is it me? I can’t see how I can do any more damage than I was doing.

This is the build I was trying. http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Warrior_-_Axebow

Don’t let it get you down. PvP is Darwinism happening in real time. You haven’t been a part of it, don’t know how much faster it is, how matchups work vs. certain classes, rotations, mechanics, or how stow weapon is one of the most important hotkeys you can make yet.

I would personally stick to Unranked Queues, go to Twitch.tv/Romoncoke when he’s streaming and ask questions, and laugh off all the kitten kickings you’re going to get because if you keep at it, improve, and make friends to queue up with you’ll get to push their faces into the dirt at some point in the future.

Have fun and don’t give up

It seems like everyone uses some ungodly tank spec for every class now.

There was a necro with like 5 life bars that everyone was beating on until the rest of the team arrived.

I take it this game is not balanced around 1v1 in the least.

Don’t let it get you down. Once you get the swing of your Warrior, you’ll start doing a lot better and I guarantee you’ll start kicking kitten again.

Try putting an amulet on

pdemo.8312:

Try putting an amulet on

I have one on, thanks though.

Yeah I don’t get it. I try to capture and I get zerged by 5 people. I try to defend and I get zerged by 5 people.

I try to capture a point with one ele on it and hes an immortal god that takes no damage at all. Then 4 people come and kill me.

I don’t think this style of “pvp” is for me.

I just build for full on damage, no survival.

even get accused of using a damage exploit one time lulz

also, if you fall victim to ‘zerging’ it usually means you need to rotate a little faster, just leave the point when you are in a 1vs1 and some other enemy +1’s you (it means he joins in on the 1vs1)

just straight up leave, go to another point, dont let them kill you and come back like a minute later to retake the point. keep this rotation up and you should have less ‘zerg’ problems

if they keep chasing just kite them around the entire map, if you play with sword mainhand or a GS, its pretty doable, if you have both literally no class will be able to catch up besides a thief maybe.

this is my current build, try it, you might like it. its a pretty good mix of damage and survivability

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMdUFaXImhQKagfgCdQ0C5gpAQ9ck7dPA-TpBFwAMOEANOCA12fYxDAoaZAAXAAA

It sounds more interesting than longbow/evis spam. I see no point in surviving if you can’t kill anything.

i do like Evis builds, but i think they are better suited for WvW roaming as in sPvP your stats are way lower and Evis doesnt almost oneshot anything that isent wearing heavy armor.

Using the most offensive variant of this build

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Warrior_-_GS_Axe/Shield_Roamer

Thats pretty much the build I’ve been running on my warrior for years and loved. I assumed a purely offensive build would be bad in spvp, so I switched to the one in my first post.

I’ll switch back and try again.

If you’re having trouble killing some players then you’re playing warrior the wrong way or simply the class isn’t for you and need to switch maybe to something more faceroll like a dps guardian. Also look up at some of the top warrior streamers and see how they play.

1on1 practice vs different classes in an empty arena is what you need,preferably with another warr spectating you while you’re figting,so he can give advice.

PvP is not PvE. That’s one big notion to take to heart.
Here dying is part of the process and while ofc it’s better to live, it’s not what defines the win/loss. Getting the 500 points in a game is what makes a winner (except courtyard).

Getting zerged can actually be the winning strategy. If they’re focused on you in one spot, your other teammembers will have easy time capping/decapping other points. Getting enemies tied up in a fight off point (as long as you hold majority of points) is also a very good strategy. Points pulse for you, they just waste time.

Running when there’s 3 and more trying to kill you is nothing to be ashamed of. Better alive then dead. Even if it’s two but you’re afraid you won’t hold out.

If you’re defending a point, remember that when fighting on your point, you’re the winning side. As long as point is yours it’s pulsing points for your team. 10s fight on your points is 5 points for your team, 0 points + 10s lost for theirs. And those 5 points already refund the cost of your death (minus being 15s outta game).

Ah and if they react so soon to you being on their point, chances are they are a pre-made with teamspeak. So don’t be too kitten yourself there. premade vs pug usually ends with the latter getting thrashed.

Ps. censored word is “hard” and “on”. Forum censor is plain ridicilous.

Murderin.8269:

I haven’t done spvp since launch. I copied a warrior spec from metabattle and tried a match today and to say that it went terribly would be an understatement.

I could barely dent lifebars, people were basically immortal. My evis hit for garbage even when it was auto crit.

Is the spec bad for what I’m trying to do or is it me? I can’t see how I can do any more damage than I was doing.

This is the build I was trying. http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Warrior_-_Axebow

This build relies a lot on stacking might with lb, you won’t do much more dmg but definitely higher than with no might. The other day warr using that build evis’d me for 8.5k (zerker thief), that’s on top of decent condi dmg.

I have been dabbling in SPVP myself to improve my “twitch” skills using pretty much the same build discussed.

Problems I have:

I can be winning a fight 1 v 1 but as soon as it turns 2 v 1 I melt.

3 v 1 is just impossible so far. Oddly I seem to do quite well in 3 v 2 (I am in the 2).

If I mess up rotation once on Svanir or Lord I am toast. Similarly it’s incredibly easy to kill me when I am fighting same.

So often I have to quit a fight and go run a treb or an orb or kill a champ or cap an unattended point. I am not playing the Warrior I am simply exploiting the circumstances of the match to score points.

I have feast or famine. I either get an okay kill count or hardly any in the match. Most of my points come from neutralizing and capping and map type stuff.

Some matches I see nothing but stakes from Shark Phoenix even Dragon rank banners. I just can’t kill those guys so I spend the whole time back capping and avoiding them trying to run the map rather than fight. =p

I am 50 percent win loss on it so I suck at Warrior too. It’s fun but man it’s frustrating sometimes.

Same situation here my friend, i’m very new to PvP and i’m just returning to the game after 10 months.

Before i used only to play some WvW and do some roaming (as PvP practice) with my condition warrior, it went quite well tbh, i could kill people very easily with that warrior, but it was 1vs1, and zerg in WvW is zerg.

But this PvP is just, ouch, i get destroyed in seconds by two professions and i really think they are overpowered, Elementalist and Mesmer.

The thing is, after getting destroyed 3 times in a row by a zerg out of nowhere, you start to lose the will to continue playing. It doesn’t matter if you have 25k vitality of 3.5k toughness, those two classes can kill me in seconds, it’s amazing and infuriating at the same time.

Why do you all think you are going to be good after not playing the game in months?

LOL

You are competing with ppl who play every day for years – I have over 4k hours and many others have MORE

PRACTICE

You will suck for a LONG time and probably quit – But if you do not give up you might get good

I don’t have 4000 hours to spend in this game. So I don’t expect to be good or even decent. But I do try to do better.

Like the OP though I am not used to being the worst player, usually in a competitive game I can become at least average and operate on the cusp of competence. If I had like a 90 percent win ratio and scored at least 200 points a match I would be happy.

I do better on my engineer, I am pretty much playing the Warrior because it’s hard at this point.

Narkodx.1472:

Why do you all think you are going to be good after not playing the game in months?

LOL

You are competing with ppl who play every day for years – I have over 4k hours and many others have MORE

PRACTICE

You will suck for a LONG time and probably quit – But if you do not give up you might get good

I’m normally a pretty quick learner when it comes to MMO PvP. I have done well in every PvP game that I’ve played, from MMOs to FPS games. I have done WvW for years so I have a pretty strong grasp on the basic mechanics of the game. I see no skill gap in this game, just a class/build gap. Skill doesn’t play as much of a role as it does in other games. You can be the best player in the game and if a counter spec shows up your only options are to run away or die. That is not PvP, that PvCapturepoint.

I’m sure people will argue, and I’m sure there is a small skill gap in the upper echelons of rated arena and tournaments, but for the general populace it is what build they are playing rather than their own abilities. Its not like there are that many abilities to screw up in the first place. Trying to time dodges and counters in a game that has blinding particle effects covering every tell is mostly luck based.

I’ve never enjoyed the PvP in this game though. Its even worse than GW1, and there were far more cheese builds in that game than this one. Adding the downed system was the first nail in the coffin for an arcadey strategy-less hack and slash PvP system.

First of all, the game is about capping points, not killing people.

If the enemy is zerging 1 point that means there are 2 more undefended…

Second, unless the opposition are terrible, you should not expect to win a 2v1. Some builds are made to tank until help arrives. If you can’t kill your enemy, then you should probably disengage until help arrives.

Lastly, warrior is not commonly used for damage any more. That role sits with thief, ranger, mesmer, guard.

Warrior is more commonly used for tanking and support at the moment. Look at the shoutbow build. That is warrior meta ATM.

Suck a lot of what?

Murderin.8269:

It seems like everyone uses some ungodly tank spec for every class now.

There was a necro with like 5 life bars that everyone was beating on until the rest of the team arrived.

I take it this game is not balanced around 1v1 in the least.

This game isn’t balanced at all. No risk builds are way more rewarding then high risk builds, It’s been like that for a long time sadly. As for everyone running tanky build’s that is also true.. Circle Vs circle is why everyone is running keyboard turning spec’s. It is simply impossible to kill the 100 player’s need to get to 500 points considering you only have 15 mins then factor in the down state, capped stats, banners/rez’s the nerfs they have given every power build It’s really a sad state of affair’s considering this game was founded on Reaction based combat… ah those where good times…

The best i seen was me running a 25/30/0/0/15 spec on thief (one of the highest dps builds) Vs a warrior. It took 20 hits (i counted) to bring him down, i would of died if he hit me one more time his total was 4… 5x more work.

“balance is the best it’s ever been” is just a statement some random kids believe so they can boost there ego. don’t fall for it, it’s not even close to being true.

So the point being is: It doesn’t matter if you win or lose, as long as you had fun.

Highlie.7641:

Murderin.8269:

It seems like everyone uses some ungodly tank spec for every class now.

There was a necro with like 5 life bars that everyone was beating on until the rest of the team arrived.

I take it this game is not balanced around 1v1 in the least.

This game isn’t balanced at all. No risk builds are way more rewarding then high risk builds, It’s been like that for a long time sadly. As for everyone running tanky build’s that is also true.. Circle Vs circle is why everyone is running keyboard turning spec’s. It is simply impossible to kill the 100 player’s need to get to 500 points considering you only have 15 mins then factor in the down state, capped stats, banners/rez’s the nerfs they have given every power build It’s really a sad state of affair’s considering this game was founded on Reaction based combat… ah those where good times…

The best i seen was me running a 25/30/0/0/15 spec on thief (one of the highest dps builds) Vs a warrior. It took 20 hits (i counted) to bring him down, i would of died if he hit me one more time his total was 4… 5x more work.

“balance is the best it’s ever been” is just a statement some random kids believe so they can boost there ego. don’t fall for it, it’s not even close to being true.

So the point being is: It doesn’t matter if you win or lose, as long as you had fun.

Were 18 of your hits while had endure pain on?

Its PvP people…your not fighting stupid ai with no defensive abilities…

You actually have to watch your opponents and bait out their defensive skills.