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Posted by: Tranassa.4968

Tranassa.4968

I would like to see automated tournament in gw2, similar to the ones from gw1 (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Automated_tournament).

What is my vision?
I know that there are the ESL tournaments, but it would be nice to have something that addresses the needs of a bigger part of the community.
There could be different tiers within the tournament. For example the tiers A, B and C.
The “A” tier would be for the top players, winning here would give the biggest rewards.
The “B” tier is for the players that want to play competitive, but are not on the highest skill level.
And the “C” tier would be for newcomers, that would like to be in a higher tier one day, and for teams, which just want to play competitive without having the time/potential to play on higher tiers. So it would be rather for casual players. Obviously this tier would have the lowest rewards.

When should the tournament take place?
Maybe it would be better not to run them every day at start, maybe just once/twice per week, or every 5 days? So that it is not allways on the same day and players that can’t play during the week/on weekend can participate too?

Rewards
I was thinking about a low amount of gems and maybe some materials or BL-keys.
I have the feeling, that there is already enough gold in the economy.
It would of course depend on the tier and the frequency of the tournaments. If it is once per day, the reward should probably be a “Black Lion Claim Ticket Scrap” for the winning team in tier B. And for a weekly tournament maybe a “Black Lion Claim Ticket”.
It should not overreward the winning team! I would like it to be more something like a side effect, while you have fun during the tournament.

Choosing tiers:
Now how to prevent a decent team from farming tier B?
I would like something like a “mini league”, that means if you are top 3 in tier A you will have to play next time in tier B. Same for tier B.
Based on the amount on teams per tier, the “worst” x teams could be placed in a lower tier. Otherwise one day every team will play in tier A.
That would be account based.

How it works:
Place a new NPC in the Mists, or use an existing one to register. You form a five man party and press “join for an automated tournament”. The player who does this is the team leader. The player names are shown in a list. All players on that list are prevented from entering ranked or unranked queue for the duration of the tournament, unless the get knocked out before. The team leader an 3 other players who registered for the tournament have to be in the party! The remaining player can be switched if needed (Substitute). 1 min before each match, there will start a timer, at the end of the timer the team leaders have to be in a party of 5. If they are not, the team is kicked from the tournament and the other team wins without a fight.

Please let me know that you think about this and if you like it, please support the idea
If you don’t like the idea, please tell exactly why you don’t like it.
Try to be friendly and constructive!

EDIT:
Rewards could also just be more Glory points for each match. It should not be highly rewarding to prevent people from abusing it.
But you should receive about the same “amount” as you would receive from playing normal ranked matches + some additional rewards for the top 3,5,10… teams per tier scaling per tier of course. So that the top team from tier C is receiving less rewards than top 4 from tier B, which receive less than top 4 from tier A.
The more you progress within the tournament, the higher the reward, so you could, it could even just mean the “reward track gain” scales with it.
But no rewards for the loosers in tier C, except the usuall rewards for loosing a ranked match.
If you want, you could even think about Leaderboard points for the top teams, as an additional possibility to gain them.

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Posted by: Mrbig.8019

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Nah, too smart of a thing for gw2 devs.

Why should u do something that was so succesful in gw instead of reinventing the wheel ( and fail) ?

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Posted by: xandi.4765

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I really like this idea +1. Would like to see dayli tournaments with small rewards like you already said. I just hope that anet will one day listen to the pvp community and do some changes.

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Posted by: Benjamin.8237

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This was already in the game almost but they removed it because they didn’t want people to get free gems and a few other things.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

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How about a swiss-style tournament every 8 hours which rewards people with tournament reward points which can be used to purchase elite, prestigious items, such as colored trim for capes, exlusive pvp ultra-rare weapons, etc.

And how about also awarding Qualifying Points to teams that place 1-4th in these tournaments and any team amassing 20+ points receives an invitation to the monthly tournament which awards a prestigious gold trim, unavailable through any other means in the game to that guild.



Oh wait, these aren’t the “good days” anymore =\ R.I.P. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Automated_tournament

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

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No thanks, they already tried this when the game launched and it was pretty much a failure.

Plus, this community actually already has plenty of tournaments to compete in.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

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For some reason I read Automated Turrets and briefly went over the replies and really wondered why people agree with you.

I’m not really sure if this would work, it was removed for a reason. And as said above, there are lots tournaments already. It would be better if they fixed matchmaking, made a proper leaderboards and give them better rewards for doing well.

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

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I like this idea a lot. I also think that it should an in game broadcast so people know when tournaments are about to start.

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Posted by: Bitty.1409

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The tournament system that was originally in the game was great, it basically gets all the good players playing at a specific time.

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Posted by: Tranassa.4968

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This was already in the game almost but they removed it because they didn’t want people to get free gems and a few other things.

I don’t think this is true considering the large amounts of gems the top players get from all the ESL tournaments and the WTS.
I’am not sure what the exact reason for removing paid tournaments was, but according to the blogpost it was because of the new matchmaking system.

No thanks, they already tried this when the game launched and it was pretty much a failure.

Plus, this community actually already has plenty of tournaments to compete in.

IMO it wasn’t a failure. Why you think it was a failure?

There are a lot of tournaments, but there are not ingame, you need to register somewhere and first of all you need to know about them. Only the ELS tournaments are known well.

And a lot of players are not going to participate in the ESL tournaments, because they know they would have no chance. ESL is focusing only on the best players. It would nice to have something a bit less competitive to attrackt some more ppl, that maybe one day become top players too. Or just to build a bigger competitive community.
Thats why i want the tiers.
PvP tournaments should be for everyone and not only for the top 1%!

I like this idea a lot. I also think that it should an in game broadcast so people know when tournaments are about to start.

Exactly, it should all be ingame and the times should be known, maybe an npc could even announce them if you enter the mists? There is this “Tournament NPC” which is explaining arena types atm… I think he would be happy to take the job.

The tournament system that was originally in the game was great, it basically gets all the good players playing at a specific time.

One of the reasons why I’am suggesting this! You don’t rely on the matchmaking and it gives a timeframe for all the teams to play against other teams.

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Posted by: witcher.3197

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This would also give people a reason to finally team up and do something. Eversince they destroyed PvP ranks there is no long term goal for playing PvP.

The game desperately needs automated tournaments to breath life into the community. Fanmade ESL cups are just not even close to this. That’s the lazy solution from Anet (which is their favorite kind of solution).

+1 for ATs, I know many people who’d come back for that.

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

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some people might remember the ticket tournaments from headstart that were removed at some point.
overall it was an interesting system with certain flaws in it

what i suggest are ingame tournaments that take place on certain weekdays only at a specific time, for example on mondays and fridays at 8pm.
in a special menu a “participate” button will be availlable for a couple of minutes to sign up with your team.
every teammember will have to pay an entry fee of maybe 10g. a team must consist of 5 players.

8 teams will participate in a tournament and if one tournament is full, a second, third etc will be generated.

i don’t know what the gw2 engine can handle but if possible the semi/finals will be bo3 matches. if this is not possible all matches will be single elimination.

as reward the first second and third places will get glory, the old pvp currency but with a new purpose:

glory can be spent at a special glory vendor for various things:

the 3 currently unobtainable pvp sets
glorious hero armor
glorious hero weapons (needs to be made)
new titles
new finishers
trophies that can be sold for gold
gift of exploration (for a good amount of glory)

the entry fee would act as a gold sink, mmr would affect the team matchups and maybe there should be a pvp rank entry requirement (or something else) so that unexperienced players dont get farmed by stronger teams or alt accounts or when the mmr failed :P

feel free to point out concerns or add new ideas

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Posted by: Tranassa.4968

Tranassa.4968


feel free to point out concerns or add new ideas

I will

Personaly I’am not a fan of the entry fee! For someone who only playes pvp 10 gold are alot of money, not everyone farms dungeons each day. PvP rewards 30s for a won game in (un)ranked.

And i realy want tiers!!!
Of course on the first day when this is released, everyone will be in tier C or you can choose where you want to go.
My only problem is how to determine who is going up/down between the tiers, because this depends on the amount of participants. And K.O.-System could leed to ORNG loosing to ELE in the first round and have to farm tier B next time. So maybe there should be a looser bracket….

Also the reward ideas are nice.
If you want to stick with the current system, you can also make a special reward track with a box at the end, where you can choose from the armor sets, or the other rewards.
The reward track would be exclusive to this tournaments.

But nice to see, that it is basicaly the same desire

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Posted by: butch.8136

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Been saying this for 2 years. I’m afraid Anet wants to keep pushing ESL and twitch. I see no other reason not to do it.

Automated tournaments would be THE solution to get a more competitive scene.

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

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the problem i have with normal tournaments atm is that it takes ages to recieve the rewards and sometimes they even forget them… game generated tournaments would give you your rewards instantly without having to wait 2 weeks or more.

another thing is that many players don’t want to or don’t know how to register for such esl tournaments, ingame registration is easier and would lead to more teams participating.

i can see why you don’t like the 10g, so maybe if the tournaments would not be everyday a no fee could still work.

what we also need (if they ever implement such tournaments) is a rewatch option for players.

idk about the tiers, the question is if there are enough teams to even make such tiers.

the new guild leaderboards (or team leaerboards as most pvp teams are also guilds) could be used for this too.

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