Guild Wars 2

Since I was banned by Fox from his KotH room for running my condi build he can’t beat, I decided to approach Academy Gaming to create a new room that won’t be run like a dictatorship. I’ll help run it and try and listen to the feedback to keep rules balanced & duels moving at a good pace .

King of the Hill is simple and fun especially if you want to try something new and show off to an audience. Only 2 people are allowed to duel at a time and on death the loser leaves so another can try and defeat the winner.

Room Name [1v1][AG] King of the Hill
Rules http://academygamingnet.com/koth/

I also want to see if the community is interested in a weekly class based 1v1 tournament. What do you guys think?

I like it!
Too bad my ping is too high on my NA account, would enjoy this more ‘official’ 1v1 server otherwise!

Maybe I should ask our EU staff for an EU 1v1 server..

That Fox…

Good luck Tron. I hope your tournies get some traffic.

I was really excited to see a new koth room open especially with tournaments since the other one is so incredibly restrictive. Also I love your new thief build too!

However I then checked your rules and it’s almost the same thing as the other room from what I remember :x

I understand all the rules, like the no bunker amulets (you forgot sentinel on your list I think?) but let me talk about your mesmer class specific rules just as an example, because class specific is where it starts to get annoyingly restrictive IMO

Mesmer: No Restorative Mantras trait- really? I don’t know anyone that uses this, but is this going to make a non-bunker mesmer into AIDS?

Mesmer: No Prismatic Understanding trait – this one everyone agrees with

Mesmer: No similar Prismatic Understanding permanent protection variants (I.E. 3 in Chaos, 3 in Inspiration)- that adds up to like 3 seconds of prot every 15 seconds, is that going to turn the mesmer to AIDS? :/ Fine if you think so, but you’ve just banned any build passed 3 points in those lines (because they are minor). That’s annoying.

Mesmer: No Phantasmal Defender utility- I can understand this

Mesmer: No Phantasmal Disenchanter utility- I CAN’T understand this- at all.

Mesmer: No Phantasm Mesmer- This one is a bit iffy, what exactly are you considering a phantasm mesmer? Are we banned from picking ANY phantasm traits at all? For example I believe many shatter mesmers pick the phantasmal fury for the GS phantasm. If all phant traits are off limits, that’s pretty annoying.

Anyways that’s just my two cents, I’m happy someone is making a new room but I hope you choose to lower some of those class based restrictions as some don’t make sense IMO

Did you brag about your build or what? Because if you didn’t do anything wrong then that’s kinda screwed up.

Madisonlee.9641:

I was really excited to see a new koth room open especially with tournaments since the other one is so incredibly restrictive. Also I love your new thief build too!

However I then checked your rules and it’s almost the same thing as the other room from what I remember :x

I understand all the rules, like the no bunker amulets (you forgot knight on your list I think?) but let me talk about your mesmer class specific rules just as an example, because class specific is where it starts to get annoyingly restrictive IMO

Mesmer: No Restorative Mantras trait- really? I don’t know anyone that uses this, but is this going to make a non-bunker mesmer into AIDS?

Mesmer: No Prismatic Understanding trait – this one everyone agrees with

Mesmer: No similar Prismatic Understanding permanent protection variants (I.E. 3 in Chaos, 3 in Inspiration)- that adds up to like 3 seconds of prot every 15 seconds, is that going to turn the mesmer to AIDS? :/ Fine if you think so, but you’ve just banned any build passed 3 points in those lines (because they are minor). That’s annoying.

Mesmer: No Phantasmal Defender utility- I can understand this

Mesmer: No Phantasmal Disenchanter utility- I CAN’T understand this- at all.

Mesmer: No Phantasm Mesmer- This one is a bit iffy, what exactly are you considering a phantasm mesmer? Are we banned from picking ANY phantasm traits at all? For example I believe many shatter mesmers pick the phantasmal fury for the GS phantasm. If all phant traits are off limits, that’s pretty annoying.

Anyways that’s just my two cents, I’m happy someone is making a new room but I hope you choose to lower some of those class based restrictions as some don’t make sense IMO

I think many still remember the disgusting days of Phantasm Mesmers from two years ago, spawning couple iZerkers and iDuellists then running in loops.

People may overreact now.

Rangers can’t trait more than 2 in Wilderness Survival…?

Just ban Bark Skin instead and let us trait a full 6.

Where do you expect us to get condi clear from if we don’t use SotF?

We can’t trait for reduced greatsword/sword/offhand cooldowns and increased radius? Our offhands are pretty bad without traiting for them man…

^ I guess someone really enjoys 6/6/0/2/0 LB Rangers, because with those restrictions, it’s all what you can expect.

Madisonlee.9641:

However I then checked your rules and it’s almost the same thing as the other room from what I remember :x

Madisonlee thanks for the feedback this is exactly what we need to hear. We will take these notes into consideration. Honestly I do not know all the classes as well as I should for having played the game since beta. We took alot of the existing rules to use as a foundation. We will look into tweaking/removing some of these over reaching rules.

Thanks.

BlackTruth.6813:

Did you brag about your build or what? Because if you didn’t do anything wrong then that’s kinda screwed up.

Fox bans any build he cannot beat with some excuse of they wanting it to simulate real encounters.

SobeSoul.6910:

BlackTruth.6813:

Did you brag about your build or what? Because if you didn’t do anything wrong then that’s kinda screwed up.

Fox bans any build he cannot beat with some excuse of they wanting it to simulate real encounters.

Also on their rules page it says » This arena is designed to practice against viable team builds in tpvp.

That’s funny considering 80% ish of the builds they force with all those rules will never be seen in tPvp lol

This is 100% going to happen. Our Koth server is up and running and weekly 1v1 tournaments will happen soon.

Awesome Thanks for the effort AG!

Again, please reconsider some of the class based stuff as some of it seems out-dated

I’m not that experienced so I’m sure I could be wrong in my opinions here but these seem strange, because if no one is allowed to run bunker amulet I can’t see how these are AIDS:

Engineer: No “Celestial build” that includes Elixer Gun we can’t use cele amulet so….
Mesmer: No Restorative Mantras trait
Mesmer: No similar Prismatic Understanding permanent protection variants (I.E. 3 in Chaos, 3 in Inspiration) This sounds out-dated because that combo gives 3 secs of prot every 15 seconds, that’s not permanent…
Mesmer: No Phantasmal Disenchanter utility this isn’t even that great of condi cleanse, why is this on the list lol does anybody even use this?
Ranger: Cannot trait more than 2 points in Wilderness Survival trait line this seems really unfair for any non-LB power rangers, that line has ranger’s best condi removal. If you’re worried about Bark Skin, just ban that. If you’re worried about the prot on dodge, that’s a minor trait and I think the banning of minor traits is not a good way to go, I mention that below

I can’t speak to the other classes’ stuff as I’m not familiar with it. Oh and I understand the banning of AI builds, spirit weps, spirit ranger, phant mes, turrets, but a little more specificity would be nice on the rules page; I can give you an example for mesmer:

Mesmer: No Phantasm Mesmer (no Phantasm traits allowed with the exception of Phantasmal Fury and minor traits. No Signet of Illusions.)

That should take care of any viable pure phantasm build while making shatter or interrupt builds still having access to the fury for GS phantasm (though if you wanted to ban Phantasmal Fury too it shouldn’t be that big a deal. ) I put in the minor trait exception because like I mentioned in my earlier post, banning minor traits prevents you from going deeper in a line and is extremely annoying to have that ban in place.

Sorry for my wall of text >-< Thanks again!

Why would you put any limitations on ranger? L2p!

Eh, if this is mean to be practice for people inspiring to get better, the cele ban should be lifted with a rule you can only go 2 or 3 wins before having to swap out for another player, or changed from KotH to Foefire. Foefire would probably be more ideal for practicing since there’s 5 good dueling areas, so you could have 10 players dueling at a time. Also Foefire has a bit more realistic dueling quality to it that Beach lacks.

Just my 2c.

I see what they did to rangers, and I understand it.

When I’m bored I go to eu to 1vs1 servers and fighting condi rangers is literally a pain in the kitten .

ban the bark skin trait that should be enough.

Elxdark.9702:

I see what they did to rangers, and I understand it.

When I’m bored I go to eu to 1vs1 servers and fighting condi rangers is literally a pain in the kitten .

ban the bark skin trait that should be enough.

This game has been out for almost 3 years, people should know how to deal with rangers by now. Imo.

Eh. If they don’t want 20 hour duels because settler ranger, I don’t think it has anything to do with L2P.

Unrestrict everything.

Here’s all the rules you should need
http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win

+1 to the new koth + tournaments!

Also.. why did you get banned on your condi build when he has kicked me out of the arena numerous times yet I’ve never gotten a ban. You’ve must have really trolled or said some naughty things

Unrestrict everything.

Here’s all the rules you should need
http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win

That teaches nothing. The majority of these rules are needed for obvious reasons. I rather not watch two celestial classes fight for 20m. No. Thanks.

Lmfao really tron? Banning EB and Off-Hand on a ranger is like tellig a warrior to but run cleansing ire or a engi to not run incidiary powder. Instead of banning the trait line why not just ban the certain trait people qq about (Bark Skin). C’mon now bud I know your more reasonable then this!

SobeSoul.6910:

Eh. If they don’t want 20 hour duels because settler ranger, I don’t think it has anything to do with L2P.

Lol are u serious? They banned settlers and all the bunker amulets. If u can’t kill a ranger without those amulets then it is a L2P.

DeTriX.4503:

Lmfao really tron? Banning EB and Off-Hand on a ranger is like tellig a warrior to but run cleansing ire or a engi to not run incidiary powder. Instead of banning the trait line why not just ban the certain trait people qq about (Bark Skin). C’mon now bud I know your more reasonable then this!

Dag chill yo. I just took base rules from Fox as a foundation. The idea is to just keep matches moving quickly more or less. We are going to work on the rules. Please suggest a full set of ranger rules that sound balanced for 1v1.

There should be no limitation on ranger lol. Even bark skin? There is no way a ranger with bark skin, empathic bond, or off hand training can’t be killed. You guys must either be dueling some godly rangers, don’t know how to play vs one, or are playing a different game.

Not sure how much you’ve done king of the hill but their are builds out there that just have hella sustain so you just have to find a balance of rules to keep game matches moving. So again its not a matter of can it be beaten it’s so that people don’t have to wait forever for a match that takes ages. No one wants that.

Eurantien.4632:

Elxdark.9702:

I see what they did to rangers, and I understand it.

When I’m bored I go to eu to 1vs1 servers and fighting condi rangers is literally a pain in the kitten .

ban the bark skin trait that should be enough.

This game has been out for almost 3 years, people should know how to deal with rangers by now. Imo.

I’m not saying people don’t know how to fight them ( well I GUESS they do) but you wouldn’t want to see a 1vs1 between a sd thief vs condi ranger, trust me you wouldn’t lol.

If shamans or other bunker amulets are gone there is no need to fear a 20 min duel vs a ranger.