Guild Wars 2

Hi all, Can we please put something in place. When a character gets legendary he or she doesn’t seem to care anymore. Not saying there afk or throwing games but 80% of them time as a diamond player in my experience it feel like that. theirs often been times i have been whispered and or offered gold to throw games for there friends so they can get to legendary. The pvp world is becoming less and less fun to play. Not complaining but something has to change.

Definitely agree here, I was 1 win away and I got paired with 2 thieves. I asked for one of them to switch, and they both just ignored me. Throughout the match they were playing horribly. One got downed in a 1v1 then teleported off point. He got bled out and they got the cap. Just silly stuff like that. When the match ends I see they are both legendary…

Just random stuff like this whenever you get to the end of diamond.

i hope anet figure out a way so that u can go back into diamond. i think that would be ideal

A lot of people must be ‘content’ when reaching legendary, causing them to dust off some of their weaker classes instead of their ‘tryhard’ class to get to legendary. Something that, of course, will net them some more losses than usual. Its more a problem of that kind than not caring anymore in most of the cases.
Besides that you will always have the really bad players that somehow lucked into legend because of matchmaking or got carried by friends.

To confess, I sometimes deliberately play a subpar DH build because I get bored with the meta. I get yelled at for dying to a thief but express that I “don’t really care”.

Heh, wish I was joking. I’ll try to play unranked but it’s not the same.. if there was build diversity we wouldn’t be in this rut!

Trini.3576:

i hope anet figure out a way so that u can go back into diamond. i think that would be ideal

I don’t know why people believe that division drop is the solution.

If anything, division drop would ensure that once you hit legendary nobody will ever play ranked while the season lasts.

I guess that’s why people are rooting for shorter seasons.

Me myself idk what the fix could be. I just know that league of legends is permanent and divisions represent skill. And I would like to see this in here too.

I suppose going away with win streaks will equalize things more. Or keep the win streaks but don’t make them permanent until loss. Make them like this

1-1-2-1-1-2…. and so on.

Since this way will slowdown progression, you can cut off a pip or two per tier

Ravenmoon.5318:

If anything, division drop would ensure that once you hit legendary nobody will ever play ranked while the season lasts.

This might be an issue for sure. Anet really should revise the overall incentives for legendary+ rank play. Once you have the backpiece there’s zero reason to participate, unless you happen to be one of those 40 or so people worldwide that poopsock to qualify for the next season of Pro League. For solo players there’s no incentive at all to continue past the first tier of legendary.

As to OP’s point about quality of play and legend rank players throwing games, I sincerely hope Anet scraps the multiple profession requirement for the backpiece achievement track, because it’s a major reason behind what the OP is describing. A lot of people get to legend and then start grinding the achievement with off-classes. It ain’t pretty.

The problem is that legendary is really it, sure you can try hard on the PVP ladder but when you see the top guy is already prestige 15 and there’s no reward for getting there, well it’s kind of discouraging.

The need to extend PVP rewards in Legendary division, give legendary players an incentive to keep the prestigious rank competitive.

Ravenmoon.5318:

I don’t know why people believe that division drop is the solution.

If anything, division drop would ensure that once you hit legendary nobody will ever play ranked while the season lasts.

Let me give you a choice.

1. ANET implents a division drop and legends stop playing, q times go up. BUT the ones that do q actually want to win.

2. ANET does not implement division drops and you get stupid legends or whatever messing around with off specs and really not caring and thereby ruining your chances at getting a pip/win because you know, you are actually TRYING to get to legend yourself and are 2 pips away.

I know which one i prefer.

I’d rather fight stupid legends with or against than having to wait any longer than my 20 min queues. I mean sure it’s great to have a super competitive match where everyone tries but I don’t want to wait in queue for over half an hour to get one game, that’s just stupid.

This season I’ve had regular 8-20 minute queues in high diamond/legend. How is this fun? I wasted more time in queue this season than playing the actual game.

Which is why I stopped short of legend x2, it just wasn’t worth queue times.

Div drop + pip/division decay after ruby.

fishball.7204:

I’d rather fight stupid legends with or against than having to wait any longer than my 20 min queues. I mean sure it’s great to have a super competitive match where everyone tries but I don’t want to wait in queue for over half an hour to get one game, that’s just stupid.

This season I’ve had regular 8-20 minute queues in high diamond/legend. How is this fun? I wasted more time in queue this season than playing the actual game.

Which is why I stopped short of legend x2, it just wasn’t worth queue times.

I’m sure the person who is diamond last tier with 1 pip to go will diagree with you. Im 100% sure he would rather wait an extra 20 min and have a chance of winning than get a Tier 1 legend in his team who decides he wants to test his “new” thief build he’s been dying to try out.

And you just said it you are already legend x1 so Q times is important to you and winning is not so important since you are already legend.

Ubik.8315:

Div drop + pip/division decay after ruby.

I think it should be Pip/Tier loss starting in Emerald and Div loss starting in Sapphire.

I’ve had experiences with “that guy” as a diamond trying to break into legendary. It happens time to time but it’s fully overblown out of proportion, the majority do NOT throw games like this because you have to actually WIN to get the class wins.

So no, the benefits do not outweigh the increased queue times.

Of course there is incentive to soloq for prestige levels in legendary, just think of all those dyes you can get !!! Maybe give out a title like “Dye Farmer” to who reaches prestige 30 or smth, to make it more appealing ! /kappa

And if that`s not your cup of tea maybe aubergine farming is.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/The-Viability-of-Eggplants-in-sPvP

Yea, I think this is why the last part of Diamond was so tough to get through. But to be honest…I haven’t played as seriously in ranked games since hitting legendary myself either. Part of that is because I really wanted to try out some different builds in a competitive environment and post-legendary was the chance to do this without losing progress. =/

Its hard to really care about the matches once you hit legend division especially if you struggled to get there. This is really a consequence of having such a bad reward system in the first place. I brought this up to devs that were hanging out in hotm last week and suggested giving a currency for black weapons at least so people who can’t progress will still get something valuable out of the league and give people a better incentive to keep trying.

Will it work? who knows but its a lot better than worthless dyes and some change.

IKR

people can be so inconsiderate, should implement a if lose X matches a row, drop to diamond