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Posted by: Nova Stiker.8396

Nova Stiker.8396

Shatter damage aside, I fight against this mesmer that immediately applied 25 stacks of confusion. I would have died instantly if this mesmer WASN’T running condition damage.

The only source of confusion was from Mistrust, I was dumbfounded. Although it was very clear of why she was running a zerker amulet with Mistrust if mesmers are able to max out confusion stacks instantly.

The bug might have been in conjunction with my Shock Aura, but seriously, this bug needs to be looked at and disabled. I do not like players knowingly exploiting bugs.

His build (from what I remember)

  • Sword/Sword, Scepter/Focus
  • Accuracy+Focus Sigil, + Energy/Generosity Sigil
  • Packs Runes
  • Berserker Amulet

Traits:

  • Unknown-Mirror of Anguish-Prismatic Understanding
  • Compounding Power-Phantasmal Haste(?!)-Malicious Sorcery
  • Unknown-Fencer’s Finesse-Mistrust(With zerker runes?!!)

Yeah… Makes absolutely no sense, right?
It did more damage than any shatterspike I’ve fought and still applied an INSTANT 25 stacks of confusion.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

Can you describe what actually hit you?

Were there any allies next to you, were you all interrupted together (overlapping mistrust), was there a magic bullet and scepter #3 plus a shatter involved?

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Posted by: Nova Stiker.8396

Nova Stiker.8396

Can you describe what actually hit you?

Were there any allies next to you, were you all interrupted together (overlapping mistrust), was there a magic bullet and scepter #3 plus a shatter involved?

Nope, none of that. I’m trying to find what caused the confusion in the combat log, this mesmer did it 3 times already yet I cannot find it :\

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

Hmm, sounds weird – especially if it happened more than once. Could be a bug.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

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Posted by: Nova Stiker.8396

Nova Stiker.8396

Hmm, sounds weird – especially if it happened more than once. Could be a bug.

I think it’s an exploit with Mistrust that allows to trait to do an insane amount to damage. It has to be, why go with Mistrust as a zerker Mesmer over Deceptive Evasion?

Mistrust needs to be disabled :\

I was going to record it, I have Fraps but the Mesmer left so I can’t sadly.

He only did it to me and when it was a 2v1 he just sat back letting teammate 1v1 me :\

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Hmm, sounds weird – especially if it happened more than once. Could be a bug.

I think it’s an exploit with Mistrust that allows to trait to do an insane amount to damage. It has to be, why go with Mistrust as a zerker Mesmer over Deceptive Evasion?

Mistrust needs to be disabled :\

I was going to record it, I have Fraps but the Mesmer left so I can’t sadly.

Well there’s nothing anyone can do or say then. It’s unknown as a bug. He quite possibly maxed out some sort of confusion/blind/shatter burst on you?

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Posted by: Nova Stiker.8396

Nova Stiker.8396

Hmm, sounds weird – especially if it happened more than once. Could be a bug.

I think it’s an exploit with Mistrust that allows to trait to do an insane amount to damage. It has to be, why go with Mistrust as a zerker Mesmer over Deceptive Evasion?

Mistrust needs to be disabled :\

I was going to record it, I have Fraps but the Mesmer left so I can’t sadly.

Well there’s nothing anyone can do or say then. It’s unknown as a bug. He quite possibly maxed out some sort of confusion/blind/shatter burst on you?

With 0 condition damage? His power spike did significantly more damage than confusion.

I actually cleansed it and beat him, not before he did 90% of my health in raw invisible damage and applied 25 stacks of confusion.

I’ve fought against plenty of mesmers, all more power focused than his build and yet they didn’t even come close to spiking my health down to 50% (mainly because I avoid most of their shatter spike.)

To make things even stranger, he also used Illusions and brought Compounding Power and Phantasmal Haste. On top of Mistrust? He was no shatter spike yet his damage was beyond broken, applying an instant maxed confusion stack and doing significantly more damage than any shatter spike.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Hmm, sounds weird – especially if it happened more than once. Could be a bug.

I think it’s an exploit with Mistrust that allows to trait to do an insane amount to damage. It has to be, why go with Mistrust as a zerker Mesmer over Deceptive Evasion?

Mistrust needs to be disabled :\

I was going to record it, I have Fraps but the Mesmer left so I can’t sadly.

Well there’s nothing anyone can do or say then. It’s unknown as a bug. He quite possibly maxed out some sort of confusion/blind/shatter burst on you?

With 0 condition damage? His power spike did significantly more damage than confusion.

I actually cleansed it and beat him, not before he did 90% of my health in raw invisible damage and applied 25 stacks of confusion.

I’ve fought against plenty of mesmers, all more power focused than his build and yet they didn’t even come close to spiking my health down to 50% (mainly because I avoid most of their shatter spike.)

To make things even stranger, he also used Illusions and brought Compounding Power and Phantasmal Haste. On top of Mistrust? He was no shatter spike yet his damage was beyond broken, applying an instant maxed confusion stack and doing significantly more damage than any shatter spike.

I’m just gonna requote myself

“Well there’s nothing anyone can do or say then. It’s unknown as a bug.”

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Posted by: DavyMcB.1603

DavyMcB.1603

Only a record will explain this properly.

But it’s possible in theory. Secpter#3 does 6stacks, F2 does 8, blind adds another 2. If Sword#4, Temporal Curtain and Mantra of Dis hit multiple enemies at once, you get additive AoE 2stacks per interrupt. Also extra stacks from other F skills. Also, mistrust doesn’t have ICD, if the mes lands AoE interrupt constantly, the stack will ramp up REALLY fast.

From the weapon set, it appears to me that the mes was really building up for AoE interrupt to create this insane AoE confusion stacking.

It’s most likely not a bug.

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Posted by: Nova Stiker.8396

Nova Stiker.8396

Only a record will explain this properly.

But it’s possible in theory. Secpter#3 does 6stacks, F2 does 8, blind adds another 2. If Sword#4, Temporal Curtain and Mantra of Dis hit multiple enemies at once, you get additive AoE 2stacks per interrupt. Also extra stacks from other F skills. Also, mistrust doesn’t have ICD, if the mes lands AoE interrupt constantly, the stack will ramp up REALLY fast.

From the weapon set, it appears to me that the mes was really building up for AoE interrupt to create this insane AoE confusion stacking.

It’s most likely not a bug.

Except he was running Decoy, Signet of Illusions and Teleport

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

Only a record will explain this properly.

But it’s possible in theory. Secpter#3 does 6stacks, F2 does 8, blind adds another 2. If Sword#4, Temporal Curtain and Mantra of Dis hit multiple enemies at once, you get additive AoE 2stacks per interrupt. Also extra stacks from other F skills. Also, mistrust doesn’t have ICD, if the mes lands AoE interrupt constantly, the stack will ramp up REALLY fast.

From the weapon set, it appears to me that the mes was really building up for AoE interrupt to create this insane AoE confusion stacking.

It’s most likely not a bug.

Except he was running Decoy, Signet of Illusions and Teleport

Weird. I’ve been meaning to try Mistrust, guess I’ll check out if I can trigger this bug myself. For science, of course. I’ll let you know.

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Posted by: Nova Stiker.8396

Nova Stiker.8396

Only a record will explain this properly.

But it’s possible in theory. Secpter#3 does 6stacks, F2 does 8, blind adds another 2. If Sword#4, Temporal Curtain and Mantra of Dis hit multiple enemies at once, you get additive AoE 2stacks per interrupt. Also extra stacks from other F skills. Also, mistrust doesn’t have ICD, if the mes lands AoE interrupt constantly, the stack will ramp up REALLY fast.

From the weapon set, it appears to me that the mes was really building up for AoE interrupt to create this insane AoE confusion stacking.

It’s most likely not a bug.

Except he was running Decoy, Signet of Illusions and Teleport

Weird. I’ve been meaning to try Mistrust, guess I’ll check out if I can trigger this bug myself. For science, of course. I’ll let you know.

I tried it too, unable to replicate it :\

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

Only a record will explain this properly.

But it’s possible in theory. Secpter#3 does 6stacks, F2 does 8, blind adds another 2. If Sword#4, Temporal Curtain and Mantra of Dis hit multiple enemies at once, you get additive AoE 2stacks per interrupt. Also extra stacks from other F skills. Also, mistrust doesn’t have ICD, if the mes lands AoE interrupt constantly, the stack will ramp up REALLY fast.

From the weapon set, it appears to me that the mes was really building up for AoE interrupt to create this insane AoE confusion stacking.

It’s most likely not a bug.

Except he was running Decoy, Signet of Illusions and Teleport

Weird. I’ve been meaning to try Mistrust, guess I’ll check out if I can trigger this bug myself. For science, of course. I’ll let you know.

I tried it too, unable to replicate it :\

Indeed. Might’ve just been a random fluke, or maybe it was a rare multi-target multi-rupt chaos storm? Who knows.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

iWarden on a glamor field. Also generosity sigil.

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Posted by: DavyMcB.1603

DavyMcB.1603

Only a record will explain this properly.

But it’s possible in theory. Secpter#3 does 6stacks, F2 does 8, blind adds another 2. If Sword#4, Temporal Curtain and Mantra of Dis hit multiple enemies at once, you get additive AoE 2stacks per interrupt. Also extra stacks from other F skills. Also, mistrust doesn’t have ICD, if the mes lands AoE interrupt constantly, the stack will ramp up REALLY fast.

From the weapon set, it appears to me that the mes was really building up for AoE interrupt to create this insane AoE confusion stacking.

It’s most likely not a bug.

Except he was running Decoy, Signet of Illusions and Teleport

Then that’s even more stack of confusion. for one, all F skills get x2 confusion stack. Trait AoE diversion. Sig of Ill will net more AoE stacks compared to Man of Dist in a short notice.

yeah, definitely not an exploit. But probably very situational.

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

That thread won’t help. The videos getting 18-46 Confusion are abusing Menders who get interrupted on taking damage. Stacked Menders + AoE damage + Mistrust = all the stacks.

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Posted by: stof.9341

stof.9341

There’s probably a bug with that lightning shield thing from Elem when they combo it with the trait where they strike someone when they disable it.

In your case, I suspect that lightning shield to stun back the Mesmer, when he stuns you via Mirror of Anguish. And the way those effects fire off each other, it’s very possible that they apply in a loop before the cooldown on Mirror of Anguish is actually recorded.