Guild Wars 2

Hey,
I’ve recently been trying a new builds in PvP on my mesmer and I’ve been noticing something. When I block a thief with either scepter 2(Illusionary Counter) or sword 4 (Illusionary Riposte) while a thief is invisible trying to backstab, they will neither take the torment nor the damage from that block. The block goes off, as you can clearly see that it says block, but the illusion does not spawn and they get none of the effects.

The blocks are some of the best damage you can do as a mesmer. This is a single short block, that if timed well, should reward the player, but it ends up being burnt and there is nothing to show for it. Not sure if it is a bug or intentional, but it is very annoying.

Now, I could be wrong, but those skills probably need a target to work, unlike the Guardian mace block, which just seems to do an AOE riposte and therefore doesn’t need a target. You cannot target someone in stealth, therefore, they wouldn’t work on a thief in stealth.

Now, question is: Is this intentional or is some dev going to swoop in on a white horse to tell us they’ll fix it in an upcoming (balance) patch? Please, do the horse thing. Please.

Wow I feel dumb. I’ve been using blocks for quite some time and didn’t know it didn’t work against stealthed targets. So sad

It doesn’t need a target to activate, but there is an obnoxious window of opportunity between mesmers block and counter that does need to be addressed. After the block lands there is more than enough time to dodge the counter.

The sword block is slightly slower than the scepters, it really needs a slight buff (something like a .5 second evade between the block and hit) to make offhand sword useful for anything beyond extremely small fights, otherwise it is actually more of a liability to try to use defensively in anything beyond 1v1

I never understood why stealth do not break on a failed attack…

Mogar.9216:

I never understood why stealth do not break on a failed attack…

Anet logic

Mogar.9216:

I never understood why stealth do not break on a failed attack…

Same reason why our attacks or damage doesn’t break stealth. Stealth would be useless in skirmish situations.

Saiyan.1704:

Mogar.9216:

I never understood why stealth do not break on a failed attack…

Same reason why our attacks or damage doesn’t break stealth. Stealth would be useless in skirmish situations.

By “useless” do you mean, “Needs to be used intelligently?”

Vicariuz.1605:

Saiyan.1704:

Mogar.9216:

I never understood why stealth do not break on a failed attack…

Same reason why our attacks or damage doesn’t break stealth. Stealth would be useless in skirmish situations.

By “useless” do you mean, “Needs to be used intelligently?”

Learn to play dude….

CaptainBlacksox.9174:

Hey,
I’ve recently been trying a new builds in PvP on my mesmer and I’ve been noticing something. When I block a thief with either scepter 2(Illusionary Counter) or sword 4 (Illusionary Riposte) while a thief is invisible trying to backstab, they will neither take the torment nor the damage from that block. The block goes off, as you can clearly see that it says block, but the illusion does not spawn and they get none of the effects.

The blocks are some of the best damage you can do as a mesmer. This is a single short block, that if timed well, should reward the player, but it ends up being burnt and there is nothing to show for it. Not sure if it is a bug or intentional, but it is very annoying.

as far as i remember ; They do take the tourment, not sure about the sword but for the scpeter it seems it works if they don’t dodge invisible or not.

If it is a mesmer skill … it must not work on thief….this is game design (see power block trait)
L2p…change profession.

Kicast.1459:

If it is a mesmer skill … it must not work on thief….this is game design (see power block trait)
L2p…change profession.

i don’t know who you are but you must be a noob with mesmers, the block go trhough stealth.

Seyiwaji.4082:

Kicast.1459:

If it is a mesmer skill … it must not work on thief….this is game design (see power block trait)
L2p…change profession.

i don’t know who you are but you must be a noob with mesmers, the block go trhough stealth.

It was a joke about Thieves hardcountering Mesmer, dude. =P