Bra (80 Guard), Fixie Bow (80 Ranger), Wcharr (80 Ele)
Xdragonshadowninjax (80 Thief)
We’ve been finding more ways to analyze how matchmaking is behaving in order make improvements to the system. Today you should notice a great improvement in queue times as we’ve identified some configurations that were adding wait times for no tangible benefits. Some players will notice a reduction in queue times of up to 3 minutes!
Thanks anet you guys are doing great dont listen to these kittens complaining
So will we still see 3 necros in one team still? Because that needs to not happen. Ever.
and here they comeeee
I want my game to be as competitve as possible. So I would seriously mind if your new matchmaking system matches me with noobs. But definitely looking towards it.
Matches for some people will be better after the change. The way timing lined up, players on the edges of the MMR curve would go from no matches to all the (bad) matches in one jump.
Thank you Xdragonshadowninjax
Actually got some good matches this evening, definitely felt the competition, though,.. .. I can’t theory craft ghetto builds anymore thinking i’m going to get a low mmr comp XD
We’ll see what tomorrow brings. Keep up the good work guys.
I got into a match against two members of PZ. Got stomped. Does me getting matched with them mean I’m almost as good as them? Because that’d be awesome. xD
(Though I know I’m not).
I got into a match against two members of PZ. Got stomped. Does me getting matched with them mean I’m almost as good as them? Because that’d be awesome. xD
(Though I know I’m not).
That’s what I am looking forwards to; Can’t wait to check it for myself.
I still see teams with 3+ of the same class. Stop putting me in teams with 3 mesmers. Holy shot.
I still see teams with 3+ of the same class. Stop putting me in teams with 3 mesmers. Holy shot.
How is it Anet problem?? You make no sense at all. They cant match against toon,I doubt we have to technology for it. And even if it was possible, players can still re roll midst a game. So you are asking for the impossible if I were you I’d L2P.
Sorting matchmaking by profession is just not as useful because people can switch. If they don’t switch, they don’t care, and it’s all chill.
I still see teams with 3+ of the same class. Stop putting me in teams with 3 mesmers. Holy shot.
How is it Anet problem?? You make no sense at all. They cant match against toon,I doubt we have to technology for it. And even if it was possible, players can still re roll midst a game. So you are asking for the impossible if I were you I’d L2P.
So there’s a learn to play issue with the pro ESL players? I mean, they only implemented a new rule where there’s no class stacking, maybe it’s because they suck.
I still see teams with 3+ of the same class. Stop putting me in teams with 3 mesmers. Holy shot.
How is it Anet problem?? You make no sense at all. They cant match against toon,I doubt we have to technology for it. And even if it was possible, players can still re roll midst a game. So you are asking for the impossible if I were you I’d L2P.
So there’s a learn to play issue with the pro ESL players? I mean, they only implemented a new rule where there’s no class stacking, maybe it’s because they suck.
Maybe that too. Just to clarify l2p doesn’t solely include winning 1 vs 1 and learning the other class tricks. Rotating the maps. Knowing who you can an can’t take also constitute L2p. But I am going to back down because I don’t know what the mesmers were running.
Good guy Evan, keep up the good work! Thank you, this is greatly appreciated.
Want to fix matchmaking?
-Separate solo and pre made queues.
-Match strictly on tier rating
-If time threshold is exceded match with lower tier and remove opposing teams penalty for loosing.
Presto, matchmaking solved.
Very noticeable change in queue times last night. Thank you.
Want to fix matchmaking?
-Separate solo and pre made queues.
-Match strictly on tier rating
-If time threshold is exceded match with lower tier and remove opposing teams penalty for loosing.Presto, matchmaking solved.
Everything was good until you went with “loosing”.
Want to fix matchmaking?
-Separate solo and pre made queues.
-Match strictly on tier rating
-If time threshold is exceded match with lower tier and remove opposing teams penalty for loosing.Presto, matchmaking solved.
Everything was good until you went with “loosing”.
It should only be the exceptions, and you HAVE to compensate players that fight at an undue disadvantage.
This way those rare (im going to assume they are rare) situations where there is not enough population of a given tier to match 10 people together, and on side is given advantage, that side still has the risk of loosing a pip but the side playing with the disadvantage doesn’t.
Again, this would be for the extreme cases mentioned above, if Anet seriously cant put 10 people together at any given time, they flat out need to reconsider the tier system.
We’ve been finding more ways to analyze how matchmaking is behaving in order make improvements to the system. Today you should notice a great improvement in queue times as we’ve identified some configurations that were adding wait times for no tangible benefits. Some players will notice a reduction in queue times of up to 3 minutes!
Nice.
Thanks.
Matches for some people will be better after the change. The way timing lined up, players on the edges of the MMR curve would go from no matches to all the (bad) matches in one jump.
so that’s why we went from 9 minute q’s to 30 second q’s but vs hotjoin level players in an instant
Want to fix matchmaking?
-Separate solo and pre made queues.
-Match strictly on tier rating
-If time threshold is exceded match with lower tier and remove opposing teams penalty for loosing.Presto, matchmaking solved.
Everything was good until you went with “loosing”.
It should only be the exceptions, and you HAVE to compensate players that fight at an undue disadvantage.
If I recall correctly, the matchmaker inflates the ratings of players in a party (proportional to party size) so that the premade plays against higher caliber players than the partied players would encounter on their own.
I still see teams with 3+ of the same class. Stop putting me in teams with 3 mesmers. Holy shot.
How is it Anet problem?? You make no sense at all. They cant match against toon,I doubt we have to technology for it. And even if it was possible, players can still re roll midst a game. So you are asking for the impossible if I were you I’d L2P.
What?
I cannot for the life of me imagine how they could have a system where it not passible for the system to grab what profession a player is on.
It’s not a tech problem, it’s a “is this worth the increase in queue times” problem.
Q times are dope. Poppin quick and easy like a pimple after a steamy bath mhhhmmmm.
I still see teams with 3+ of the same class. Stop putting me in teams with 3 mesmers. Holy shot.
How is it Anet problem?? You make no sense at all. They cant match against toon,I doubt we have to technology for it. And even if it was possible, players can still re roll midst a game. So you are asking for the impossible if I were you I’d L2P.
What?
I cannot for the life of me imagine how they could have a system where it not passible for the system to grab what profession a player is on.It’s not a tech problem, it’s a “is this worth the increase in queue times” problem.
Too bad you can’t read.
I’m getting horrendous matches. Like, I feel like ragequitting all the time because the people I’m playing with are idiots. I can be 1v3, down one, and escape with my life, and my team will still not take a single point.
this it s the most kittened matchmaking change that i ever saw.
Do listen to the kittens complaining. Those kittens keep your company in business. Now how about being even handed and not disfavoring Mesmer?
I’ve noticed the same bad matches as before, mm might be faster, but now I lose faster.
I still see teams with 3+ of the same class. Stop putting me in teams with 3 mesmers. Holy shot.
How is it Anet problem?? You make no sense at all. They cant match against toon,I doubt we have to technology for it. And even if it was possible, players can still re roll midst a game. So you are asking for the impossible if I were you I’d L2P.
What?
I cannot for the life of me imagine how they could have a system where it not passible for the system to grab what profession a player is on.It’s not a tech problem, it’s a “is this worth the increase in queue times” problem.
Too bad you can’t read.
I’m sorry? You said
They cant match against toon,I doubt we have to technology for it.
I found “match against toon” to be unintelligible but assumed based on the context of the post you where responding to, that you where talking about preventing class stack in matches.
If there is some other interpretation, It’s unknown to me.
Improvements to matchmaking in anets eyes = shorter queuetimes. Thats it.
Kitten better quality matches as long as q times are short. Right Evan?
hopfully incompetence is not fatal…
Last night we had que pop within 10 seconds of entering the que like 3 times in a row. I do not code much, but I find it hard to believe that the mmr is matched in such a short time.
Matches were unbalanced when my guildie is in games with Pro league players.
I’m getting horrendous matches. Like, I feel like ragequitting all the time because the people I’m playing with are idiots. I can be 1v3, down one, and escape with my life, and my team will still not take a single point.
Exactly my feeling atm and thats why i looked on forums to see if anything changed. I may be bad at pvp but the matchmaking is terrible and games feel pointless.
Welp, I think this is the straw the broke the camels back, at least for me till ranked finally comes back.
I actually had a +50/50 win ratio with my warrior pre-patch. Now it’s just in the gutter.
I still see teams with 3+ of the same class. Stop putting me in teams with 3 mesmers. Holy shot.
How is it Anet problem?? You make no sense at all. They cant match against toon,I doubt we have to technology for it. And even if it was possible, players can still re roll midst a game. So you are asking for the impossible if I were you I’d L2P.
What?
I cannot for the life of me imagine how they could have a system where it not passible for the system to grab what profession a player is on.It’s not a tech problem, it’s a “is this worth the increase in queue times” problem.
Too bad you can’t read.
I’m sorry? You said
They cant match against toon,I doubt we have to technology for it.
I found “match against toon” to be unintelligible but assumed based on the context of the post you where responding to, that you where talking about preventing class stack in matches.
If there is some other interpretation, It’s unknown to me.
Read the whole paragraph. . * even if it was possible*…
Call me pessimistic, but I consider the game to be unplayable.
The que times seem much shorter, a lot of instapops and below 2min till latenight today.
Thank you very much for that.
Otherwise,
the quality is regular unrank trash we had since off season. Id be very happy to finaly or even maybe once per week for 10.000 gems be able to see my actual MMR and the enemy ones so I can know if i can afford to play a fun non optimal build for a change. and also when i hit rock mmr bottom, to know its time to put meta tryhard pants back on.
Thank you.
The que times seem much shorter, a lot of instapops and below 2min till latenight today.
Thank you very much for that.
Otherwise,
the quality is regular unrank trash we had since off season. Id be very happy to finaly or even maybe once per week for 10.000 gems be able to see my actual MMR and the enemy ones so I can know if i can afford to play a fun non optimal build for a change. and also when i hit rock mmr bottom, to know its time to put meta tryhard pants back on.Thank you.
Dont give them ideas on adding a cost too seeying your MMR. (Though i doubt they will ever allow us too see it)
The que times seem much shorter, a lot of instapops and below 2min till latenight today.
Thank you very much for that.
Otherwise,
the quality is regular unrank trash we had since off season. Id be very happy to finaly or even maybe once per week for 10.000 gems be able to see my actual MMR and the enemy ones so I can know if i can afford to play a fun non optimal build for a change. and also when i hit rock mmr bottom, to know its time to put meta tryhard pants back on.Thank you.
Dont give them ideas on adding a cost too seeying your MMR. (Though i doubt they will ever allow us too see it)
What’s sad is I actually wouldn’t mind paying for one. It will never happen because people would derank themselves at will or… they’ll only play when their mmr tanks due to inactivity.
thanks evan !!!
Lol. This new matchmaking sucks. Seems like it was made to keep the high rated players from leaving the game since they probably had long queues. Now a scrub like myself is just matched against high rated players and are getting ROFLSTOMPED. I rather wait 5 mins and get a balanced match then get 30 sec queues and lost 8 of last 10 like I have been doing in one-sided matches. Oh well….sigh….
So will we still see 3 necros in one team still? Because that needs to not happen. Ever.
Still better then to be in a team with 3 mesmers (I was one of them) t ooposit with 2 dh, 2 reapers and a thief
13 games straight, all losses. Please bring the old matchmaking algorithm back T__T
Notice much faster matchmaking. Composition in playerskill seems still mixed. Noticed more 2/3 player premades scheduled with me in solo. We all know 3 player preamde mixed with all solo gives bad odds … But it can be that about 20 Games are not enough for a clear picture to see if i am right.
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5 soloQ games lastnight, lost 1, one match put with premades of 2 on both sides of the team. Low waiting times, so far seems great.
Personally, last night i went back to PvP yesterday to try some builds and got some great matches and queue times of 1 minute or less.
Pretty cool
Thanks anet you guys are doing great dont listen to these kittens complaining
Yes, the players don’t know anyting we are morons. Don’t act on information from markets. Markets are dumb. A small group of so called “experts” should make all the decisions.
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