Guild Wars 2

Why did the Devs think not accepting a queue is a reason to give people dishonor?

I mean really, sometimes the queue can take a decent amount of time, and if you choose not to accept the queue, you get the debuff…

I’m not sure how many of these stacks it takes to prevent queuing, but if this means that missing a queue while taking a leak means I can’t requeue when I get back to my computer, I’ll be kittened. Pun intended.

Seriously, only give players dishonor for LEAVING A MATCH. There is nothing wrong with not pressing the “accept” button when your queue pops. In fact, I thought it was there to avoid afk at the beginning of a match.

Just to be clear, it wasn’t enough to force us to stay in HoTM for pvp queue, but now we are also forced to sit in our chair for the duration of our queue to avoid nasty surprises when getting back to our computers.

Maybe, I misread the patch notes. Please tell me that is the case. Otherwise, DAFAQ!

one of the people I queue sometimes forgets to click queue a lot.. so I can see this being a bit sensitive for us to deal with in the future.

nearlight.3064:

one of the people I queue sometimes forgets to click queue a lot.. so I can see this being a bit sensitive for us to deal with in the future.

yeah exactly if someone misses it the whole party has to wait to reque again -.-

Kicker.8203:

nearlight.3064:

one of the people I queue sometimes forgets to click queue a lot.. so I can see this being a bit sensitive for us to deal with in the future.

yeah exactly if someone misses it the whole party has to wait to reque again -.-

If the new system is as severe as it seems, the whole group will have to wait the duration of the debuff or queue without their friend. GG

Because if you don’t accept the queue, you’re asking 9 other human being to waste a few minutes in the queue again?

Actually, if you had never queued, they would be waiting all the same. A game can only begin when 10 players are ready for a match. If one player queues and after 5 minutes 9 others queue, but the first leaves, they will now have to wait for the 10th player. In the end, its the same result. The dishonor debuff should be reserved for doing things dishonorably, like giving up or leaving a match.

stop wasting my time

when you take a leak
when you make unjustified complaint threads
when you go all ciggy butt brain

Queue go smoke a cig, come back dishonored no beuno.

NeXeD.3042:

Queue go smoke a cig, come back dishonored no beuno.

Smoke before queing? man… too much excuses in life. you are making it hard for yourself. seriously.

DOTA and LOL do it. I take this as a sign that anet is trying (emphasis on trying) to take their game seriously as they push for e-sports.

SlayerSixx.5763:

DOTA and LOL do it. I take this as a sign that anet is trying (emphasis on trying) to take their game seriously as they push for e-sports.

emphasises trying some more
tryharding
done :^)

Sunshine.5014:

Because if you don’t accept the queue, you’re asking 9 other human being to waste a few minutes in the queue again?

Yabbit the time to accept is too short.

What I do not like about this new dishonor system that punishes “not accepting” queue is that it limits our freedom even more.

First layer: we can’t queue out of the Heart of the Mist.
Second layer: we can’t go away from the keyboard to do anything while the queue is there.
Conclusion: Heart of the Mist is a jail, and we are its prisoners.

Loboling.5293:

Why did the Devs think not accepting a queue is a reason to give people dishonor?

I mean really, sometimes the queue can take a decent amount of time, and if you choose not to accept the queue, you get the debuff…

I’m not sure how many of these stacks it takes to prevent queuing, but if this means that missing a queue while taking a leak means I can’t requeue when I get back to my computer, I’ll be kittened. Pun intended.

Seriously, only give players dishonor for LEAVING A MATCH. There is nothing wrong with not pressing the “accept” button when your queue pops. In fact, I thought it was there to avoid afk at the beginning of a match.

Just to be clear, it wasn’t enough to force us to stay in HoTM for pvp queue, but now we are also forced to sit in our chair for the duration of our queue to avoid nasty surprises when getting back to our computers.

Maybe, I misread the patch notes. Please tell me that is the case. Otherwise, DAFAQ!

if you take a “leak” ; Leave the queue

I am quite surprised, seems a very player unfriendly way to implement a dishonour system.

I’m glad it works like this.

When the matchmaker finds a group of 10 for a match, and then 1 person doesn’t join, the other 9 end up at the back of the queue in addition to the 1 who didn’t accept.

The solution for avoiding dishonor is simple: if you need to leave the keyboard while in queue, leave the queue. Rejoin when you get back and can commit 15 or 20 minutes to playing.

Thank you Anet for respecting my time and penalizing people who don’t.

StickerHappy.8052:

NeXeD.3042:

Queue go smoke a cig, come back dishonored no beuno.

Smoke before queing? man… too much excuses in life. you are making it hard for yourself. seriously.

Well I didn’t do it. Just coming up with a situation to show I understand. I don’t have to make it hard for myself =)

Good. Maybe we won’t get so many people abandoning queue

Is the queue system not able to find a replacement player if the 10th one does not accept in time ?
The queue system for Halo 2 did look for replacement players if people left/did not accept during a queue, and with how old that game is I would think all new games work the same, because it is a real neat system.

Advice: Don’t leave from your computer until you get match confirmation pop-up. Hit accept and you are free to leave for guaranteed 1,5 mins before match begins.

I just experienced my first dishonor and I must say, what the * are these developers smoking.

I have never played a game that punishes you for an action BEFORE you even play the game.

Is there some inside joke on this that we are not getting?

There are two optional design approaches for this:

a) individual centered
b) 9/10 or “all the other players”

Option b) results more satisfactory situation for the playerbase than a). If all players require maximum flexibility the resulting system will be unplayable for all.

Plz add dishonor at everyone that select skyhammer

aggelos r.5387:

Plz add dishonor at everyone that select skyhammer

LOL DIS GUY. HERE, HAVE A COOKIE.

Cancel queue if you need to pee or smoke give me a break. Also, if you are tabbed out the icon on your tray pulses. This is needed.

There are pros and cons to the dishonor system. But either way, if you weren’t ready to queue, don’t queue. If you are in a group, that’s your issue with them if you are not really ready, but to apply that same issue to others outside of your group is even worse. This was meant to cut down this kind of issue so seems to be working. Emergencies will occur, but if they do odds are people are not going to care about getting a penalty. Also as stated above, if need be, wait for the pop and then take care of the situation while waiting for the match to start. PvP has enough hurry and waits without players creating more of them.

I don’t see the advantage of this system, so please explain it to me.

When I think that 10 players need to be ready for a match, if the first one leaves queue the “9 others” will be waiting for a 10th, if the 10th joins before the players rejects the queue, the 9 others will be waiting for one more player, these same players would be waiting the same amount of time if that first player dropped his queue instead of not accepting.

The game will not start before 10 players are ready to play, if player 10 doesn’t accept the queue. Then the system will wait for the 10th player. If he had left queue, the system will wait for the 10th player, and him/her being unaware of any of this is joining at the same time regardless.

I suppose all this does is encourage people to be ready when they queue and wait 3-10 minutes in front of their computer while doing nothing. All so that the estimated time is more accurate. Cause I just don’t see how matched will happen more frequently with this new dishonor system. You might just go through a moment of excitement when the queue pops and you get requeued for 1 minute. But if that player had left the queue, you’d be waiting that same minute.

Now I suppose an argument could be made for the time in queue, as if a new player joined during that time, the players would be forced to wait the duration of the queue before re prompting the accept button.

Well, I’m done with this. I doubt it will affect me much, but I just don’t understand this change, given what the potential loses are for player satisfaction for pvp. I guess, I can always unplug my headphones, and blast the volume while I do pushups or something XD, try and be productive next to my computer.

I wish you all good matches.

I think this was a dumb idea, who hasn’t missed a queue for one reason or another? It doesn’t cost your team the game like someone leaving does and it doesn’t happen all to often but it’s usually not due to intentionally missing it.

hurrado.2346:

I think this was a dumb idea, who hasn’t missed a queue for one reason or another? It doesn’t cost your team the game like someone leaving does and it doesn’t happen all to often but it’s usually not due to intentionally missing it.

Yep, this exactly. Its slightly annoying if someone drops in queue, but completely frustrating when someone drops out in the actual game. The same punishment is being levelled on “crimes” of completely different proportions.

Alright, i came back from a long break and notice this. This “dishonor” Because i was in a game, and D/C 2times but i came back and finished it. BUT it still gave me a 20 minute Dishonor bc it was saying i left. really…

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