So could the folks who are participating in the BW3 share what you guys think are the best specializations are.
In-game, I get intimidated by all the fancy animation, not knowing what’s going on. Based on what I’ve experienced in-game and what you guys have said on the forum, the rank could look like this in descending order:
druid
chrono
scrapper
revenant
reaper
tempset
What about the thief, warrior and guard specializations? Theyre not represented that well in game.
Curious to find out what you guys think. I’m now considering to buy HoT if the class balancing isn’t too unfair
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Reaper is a crazy upgrade. Chrono probably second. Druid/Herald are great. Scrapper is good. Rest are meh.
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Chrono (blows everything out of the water)
Scrapper (dat dmg)
Reaper (too less mobility for the first place)
herald (overall really stronk)
Druid (great potential)
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berserker (condi anyone?)
dragonhunter (seems meh)
daredevil (worse than meta, staff worst weapon)
tempest (downgrade)
I think the upper five classes are really profiting from their specialisation. Every single one of them gains imo a great and awesome boost. Mesmer is OP but so fun to play it’s ridiculous.
For the lower bracket I don’t belive that the specialisations are good enough for the current meta, so they will be worse for the meta that is comming.
Chrono (blows everything out of the water)
Scrapper (dat dmg)
Reaper (too less mobility for the first place)
herald (overall really stronk)
Druid (great potential)
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berserker (condi anyone?)
dragonhunter (seems meh)
daredevil (worse than meta, staff worst weapon)
tempest (downgrade)
I think the upper five classes are really profiting from their specialisation. Every single one of them gains imo a great and awesome boost. Mesmer is OP but so fun to play it’s ridiculous.
For the lower bracket I don’t belive that the specialisations are good enough for the current meta, so they will be worse for the meta that is comming.
Reaper is powerful no doubt, especially in team fights which is where they are the most useful
But in 1v1 encounters, d/d ele and chronomancer blows it out of the water. And plus it still lacks a disengage
That’s the one problem with the way the Reaper is designed. Since it has no disengage, it has to be the most powerful in a straight up brawl. Otherwise, the Reaper will never be played. The class that beats the reaper will be played, since the reaper will automatically lose once seeing that class.
I don’t have opinions. I only have facts I can’t adequately prove.
I have seen them all go down to one thing or the other. I do not think we will have a grasp if anything is truly op for a while. I really mean that. I have seen chronos lose simply because players were watching for the block and well tells. Same with reaper. I have seen many just range them to death or ff them off the bat. Since none of these are sustained kings so far it seems basic team pressure is still doing the trick despite how hard some of them can hit.
And I actually agree with OP to a degree. I have yet to see it but i think Druid might actually end up one of the strongest once players realize how to play it like a pocket healer properly. I have yet to see it though.
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Since it has no disengage, it has to be the most powerful in a straight up brawl. Otherwise, the Reaper will never be played. The class that beats the reaper will be played, since the reaper will automatically lose once seeing that class.
That’s some very sound logic.
Anyone who says Zerk is the average Joe build is an average Joe.
Reaper was the main one I noticed as scary. You have to be real careful not to let them get close.
Otherwise too early to tell whats OP or not. For whatever reason I only ran across one druid and didn’t realize it at the time (kept going wtf why am I dazed so much lol)
edit: wow, chrono and scrapper are up there as well!
That’s the one problem with the way the Reaper is designed. Since it has no disengage, it has to be the most powerful in a straight up brawl. Otherwise, the Reaper will never be played. The class that beats the reaper will be played, since the reaper will automatically lose once seeing that class.
This is true except for one thing. Since reaper is pretty tanky, if the counter class can’t burst it down quickly, and just wins in a drawn out sustained battler, then reaper can still be viable, It will have time to get support from allies if stuck in an unfavorable match up, allowing it to not be farmed constantly, and still useful in the areas it excels.
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Herald, Chronomancer and Reaper are all incredibly(OP) strong. With Scrapper slightly below.
Druid is strong, but I wont judge it just yet.
Daredevil and Berserker are okeyish.
Tempest and Dragonhunter are meh.
How is it ok for some specs to effortlessly gain 25 stacks of might on their own (Scrapper, Reaper, with Herald sitting at 15…), but it’s somehow wrong for eles to gain from 8 to 15?
Some of these specs are just flat out(shameless) upgrades (Chronomancer anyone?).
With the right traits and weapons and in the current meta, this is my ranking:
Top Tier
Herald
Chronomancer
High Tier
Reaper
Scrapper
Druid
Average Tier
Daredevil
Berserker
Bottom Tier
Tempest
Dragon Hunter
I think this is actually one of the most accurate rankings.
I would put Reaper at Top Tier, on top of being extremely strong that perma chill will hardcounter elementalists. I would put Tempests at Average tier though.
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apocom, Sandzibar, Jekkt and Frenk’s list are all within the same ballpark and matches what I’ve experienced in the last 2 days. But it’s still too soon to know and builds will slowly emerge as we progress further into the expansion
I would say something like:
Top:
Chronomancer
Reaper (Condi seems worse than power, but will have to see in more organized fights to be sure.)
Scrapper
High:
Herald (a bit overrated due to people correlating it to everything that is Revenant, still strong.)
Druid
Average:
Berserker
Tempest
Daredevil
Kind of Meh/ too niche
Dragonhunter. Can do some nice burst, but really niche and not all that great from what I’ve seen.
That’s my thoughts on rankings.
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how can u say that this or this is OP. I play reaper most of the time maruder or zerk and yeah ofc i can hit like a truck but high hitting skills have over 1s cast time an obvious animations and ppl dont even dodge things they shoudl simply becouse ppl are not used to play agains that. Same thing wih rev , scraper , druid and every other profesions.
I was dueling friend , he was playing revenant and he was kitten me in few sec over and over becouse i had no clue what he is doing , but when I knew what should I dodge or los was much betetr and finnaly i was able to win some duels.
Just look on necro GS , its such a hard hitting weapon that can hit for 10-15k but when ppl will get used to that and they will know what they need to dodge gs on necro wont be even used simply becouse its to slow.
Only ones I’m super worried about are Chronomancer and Scrapper. Reaper is powerful in melee, but takes time to kill anything and can’t really escape. Druid gets shut down by CC.
That’s the one problem with the way the Reaper is designed. Since it has no disengage, it has to be the most powerful in a straight up brawl. Otherwise, the Reaper will never be played. The class that beats the reaper will be played, since the reaper will automatically lose once seeing that class.
Flesh Worm is one of the best disengages in game if used right.
Flesh Worm is love, Flesh Worm is life.
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….. And Elementalist.
I only want to comment on druids position… you’re crazy.
Six Second Daze.
5 Second Cooldown.
GG.
While doing no dps in that form :P
Plus you’re pigeon-hole in Druid, Marksmanship , Wilderness Survival and holding a staff 100% of the time. (Since the Astray regeneration system is bad right now)
I only want to comment on druids position… you’re crazy.
Six Second Daze.
5 Second Cooldown.
GG.
While doing no dps in that form :P
Plus you’re pigeon-hole in Druid, Marksmanship , Wilderness Survival and holding a staff 100% of the time. (Since the Astray regeneration system is bad right now)
Let’s be honest. This is a team-fight game. This skill can be a 6 sec AOE daze can completely turn the tide of a team fight. In addition, you can always exit avatar form to do damage if needed
I have been playing this spec a lot this beta and it works wonder for me. Druid is an amazing spec, period.
Chrono there will be no point in playing nonchrono after pu nerf
Herald Dat survi dat dmg only condi dmg works on this guy
Scrapper very powerfull frontlaner
Reaper nice dmg fronlaner, can be hardcc to the ground but still fun
daredevil staff is kitten but d/p and s/d works great.(that dmg from headshots lol)
berserker Hambow returns
dragonhunter 1 shotting Trueshotting, 1 trick ponies(like every guard so nothing new)
tempest Rly strong support
Druid Heals insane support = all i need to not feel bad for playing ranger, still not op, YES YES it can heal and look like unkillable but in terms of supporting if your team is not coordinated well you wont heal kitten.
Mostly agree with this, but Tempest def. still needs love. The only decently working spec is fresh-air tempest, which either takes earth and is completely seflish (doesn’t share auras) or takes water and has no defense (because no prot on aura). Other tempest builds like water/arcana/tempest are just a downgrade on d/d cele ele.
Of course, some things WILL be broken even after release (most broken spec is probably not even found yet, and people can’t utilize new specs at the skill-cap with such short time). What matters is that they do some balance 1x per month as opposed to wait for 6 months while obviously OP stuff just ruins the game again.
top 3 in no particular order: herald (perhaps rev hammer/sword in general idk), scrapper and chronomancer (both are over performing compared to their already strong core classes)
I don’t see why people find reaper so strong as it doesn’t really perform much better than necromancer. Imo in a good spot in relation to its core class.
Druid overperforms in comparison to its core class, but as the core class does not well enough for tournament play it, doesn’t tell much about how good/bad druid is.
Daredevil is the most annoying build to face since turret engi but annoying doesn’t equal broken. Idk how it performs in comparison to d/p. It has even more mobility and – depending on the traits – is more or less immune to soft cc’d but no/low stealth.
No opinion on berserker and tempest (tempest has a hard time because of how broken d/d ele was/is?)
