Guild Wars 2

What do you guys think the new heals will do? I can’t wait to see what new/old builds become viable/buffed due to them. Let me take a shot at the Guardian one:

Chalice of Light
Spirit Weapon
Summon an arcane chalice to heal you and your allies.
Activation: 1s
Cooldown: 20s
Duration: 10s
Pulses 3s of Regen to allies within 240 radius of the chalice every 3s.

Command
Command the Chalice of Light to heal you and blind nearby foes. This destroys the chalice.
Healing: 5,400(0.5)
Activation: Instant
Cooldown: 30s
Blind: 5s
Radius: 240

…lol

bow to your AI overlords, Acandis! now they might even start healing us

Nah, I think a big floating chalice would be cool, in a more casual kinda way. Not really trying to make spirit weapons pvp-viable, last thing we need right now is that.

Everyone is getting Healing Signet.

Heals that cure conditions

Ranger: Healing Spirit
Guardian: Healing Weapon
Warrior: Healing Shout
Thief: Healing Venom
Elementalist: Healing… Conjure? o.o :O x.X Probably not
Engineer: Healing gadget, maybe an injector of some sort?
Mesmer: Healing PHANTASM WUT?! NerfPLX, Summon Phantasmal Cleric.
Necro: Healing Spectral skill.

Lets see how many I get right. crosses fingers

Lopez.7369:

Everyone is getting Healing Signet.

Rangers with healing signet guys.

Ranger:

Signet Heal:

Passive: Heal the Ranger upon Petswap.
Active: AoE Heal centred on Pet location. Works with GM trait ( Power Ranger Support ).

Survival Heal:

Channel heal. Gain stealth & cleanse movement impairments at end of channel if uninterrupted.

Shout Heal:

Small heal. You & your pet’s successful attacks will leech health for X seconds.

ronpierce.2760:

Ranger: Healing Spirit
Guardian: Healing Weapon
Warrior: Healing Shout
Thief: Healing Venom
Elementalist: Healing… Conjure? o.o :O x.X Probably not
Engineer: Healing gadget, maybe an injector of some sort?
Mesmer: Healing PHANTASM WUT?! NerfPLX, Summon Phantasmal Cleric.
Necro: Healing Spectral skill.

Lets see how many I get right. crosses fingers

healing conjure: Frost Bow You must mean a Healing Utility slot for a conjure

Lopez.7369:

Everyone is getting Healing Signet.

löl

Signet of Indemnity (Mesmer)

Passive: Damage is transferred from you to your clones/phantasms (small amount per second). Having more phantasms/clones up = larger transfer. Cannot lower a clone/phantasm to below 1hp.

Active: Heal yourself

Potentially the active could be ‘shatter all your illusions and gain health equal to x% of the total health of your illusions’. Or something to do with sacrificing them for a heal whose impact depends on the number/state of illusions up.

Signet of Attunement/Harmony (Ele)

Passive: Gain health whenever you change attunement.

Active: Recharge all your attunement skills. Heal yourself for each attunement on cooldown.

This could be fascinating if used correctly and help newer players learn the class… just have to be careful with the heal values so it isn’t over the top.

Signet of Attunement + Written in Stone would be really nice.

CMstorm.8679:

Signet of Attunement + Written in Stone would be really nice.

Definitely, it would allow 30 point into earth without taking such a huge hit from not having as much in water. Written in Stone seems like such a good idea but lacks the impact with most builds to make it worthwhile.

Honestly, I wish that they’d fix all of the existing heals and utilities before they start making more. Over a year and Thief traps are still absolute pieces of junk that I forgot existed around 8 months ago, and I’m sure other professions have plenty of useless utilities.

Incurafy.6329:

I’m sure other professions have plenty of useless utilities.

Or useless heals, does any Ranger ever run Heal as One? Blood Fiend on Necros?

I can only hope, for the future of this game, that the new heals will feature some element that benefits your allies and not much yourself.

Thief:

Signet of Healing in Shadow
Active: Turn yourself and allies stealth and immune to conditions for some time.
Passive: Heal X every X seconds.
Activation: Instantly
Cooldown: kitten
Duration: 3s

Did they say they were going to be signets or you kitteners are obsessed with passives lol

I was thinking for Engineers it would be some kind of Difibulator Gadget. Perhaps something along the lines of:

Heal: for X amount
Cast time:Instant
Effect:1 second self knock down, cures cripple chill and immobilize.

Tool Belt could be something along the lines of:

Cast time:1/4 second
Effect: electrical 1 second long small 60 range around yourself AOE Daze for 1 second.
Also grants 1 second of haste to allies withit the radius.
Cooldown:30 seconds

Guardian skill:
Heal: X amount
AoE
Cast Time: 3 seconds
Range: 1200
Grant Protection to allies
Cooldown: 60s

Lopez.7369:

Everyone is getting Healing Signet.

This. Anet refuses to backtrack on their balance decisions, and the only way to make healing signet balanced is to give it to everyone. Soon PVP will be full of unkillable players of every class!

Personally, I think it would be interesting to see a heal for Rangers that either gave their pet a really strong hot or could heal their pet heavily on a short cd while providing a relatively weak heal for the ranger. This could be a way to address pet survival without making an unkillable pet OP.

Also, a conjured healing weapon from an ele could be interesting, but they’ve already made a conjure weapon for every element…

Inb4 everyone gets consume conditions on 15s cd

This is the skills and balance team… We are in for a ride lol.

i dont care that much about healing skill. but creating a viable healer build – that would be big.

Dahkeus.8243:

Also, a conjured healing weapon from an ele could be interesting, but they’ve already made a conjure weapon for every element…

They could make it an arcane themed conjure, but I don’t know if such a thing is possible in the lore.

gesho.9468:

i dont care that much about healing skill. but creating a viable healer build – that would be big.

No thanks.

Viable healing build?..that sounds exactly like the trinity again. Viable D.PS/Viable Nuke and support/ Viable healer…they broke the trinity..it would be egg on face if they now have to bring it back.

There was rumors of eles getting an Arcane heal! that’s prob it

Instant cast, full heal and 1 shoots someone anywhere on the map ?

Thief :

Withdraw in shadows.

I don’t even need to explain it..

As long as healing signet exist any new heal will be useless, especially for warrior.

google.3709:

There was rumors of eles getting an Arcane heal! that’s prob it

Instant cast, full heal and 1 shoots someone anywhere on the map ?

Hmm, could be a bit strong but then again, eles do have the lowest base hp and armor in the game. Okay, seems legit.

Besides, bunker condi dodge meta backstab spam, so eles need something like this to level the playing field.

Well It is hard to come up with a heal skill that would unlock new builds all by itself. It is possibly heals that are %based to encourage the use of vitality gear which is inherently strong vs conditions but has been suboptimal in terms of effective hp.

They also mention thief heal as being something particularly groundbreaking… God I hope it’s not heal on dodge… Sure as hell that would open some thief bunker style but the last thing we need is more dodge spamming

still will be useless for thieves heh

I may be mistaken but didn’t they say 8 new heal skills?

If so does that imply each class gets a new heal?

^ I think we should #hype and guess which class is going to get shafted.

There are already data-mined skill ideas out there. I didn’t look at the other classes, but Necro looks interesting.

Bhawb.7408:

There are already data-mined skill ideas out there. I didn’t look at the other classes, but Necro looks interesting.

They all have the potential to be interesting, with heals it really depends on stuff like cooldowns/heal numbers.

Though it seems like the thief heal might become the ‘ranger’ of the batch, powerful in spvp but a laughing stock in every other situation, and worthless without traiting entirely around it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1s31pc/new_healing_skills_datamined/

New heals…..

NOT IMPRESSED

I was excited until the necro signet specifically said “PLAYER allies”, cant even use it for minion burst, whats the use now :/

Definitely not impressed. Anet dun goofed again.

I sure hope they tested out these new heals with whatever new class balance changes that are coming around next week because by the description of some of them, the heals alone will be changing the meta.

Best I can hope for is they do away with passive healing in all forms or make it totally supplementary to active heals. I like the description of the mesmer and ele heals, but I have a generally bad feeling about the ranger and warrior one.

Do rangers really need another spirit to add to their pet collection and do warriors need another endure pain like skill ???

Hmm, some of those look kind of concerning. I guess it’s nice that people will start needing to really pay attention for some of those heals and will be severely punished for just spamming damage onto, say, a warrior. Some of them may end up being simply too powerful.

The inherent problem with releasing new skills/classes/anything is that if they’re not OP, no one will have a reason to use them.

Lol Mesmer got a heal signet. Ranger one could be cool if it scales with traits (seems to). Warrior one sounds crazy, Engie sounds interesting, the rest suck. Engie heal (the invulnerability on the heal at 1%) + AR

umm…some of those skills are okay, but really?

This has to be a joke. You’re giving warrior MORE invulnerability? You’re giving eles a 3rd arcane damage skill to add to their all in burst? You’re giving phantasm condi bunkers a passive heal?

Does ANet even play this game? Seriously, everything you do is WRONG.

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/23665-water-spirit – could be awesome

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/23579-signet-of-vampirism – idk kitten necros tho

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/23527-signet-of-the-ether – Mes Healin Sig

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/23649-litany-of-wrath – zerker guard only

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/23613-a-e-d This plus AR

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/23499-arcane-brilliance

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/23539-skelk-venom – Why does this Sig of Malice rip off exist

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/23544-defiant-stance – Sounds great if you main war

Caffynated.5713:

This has to be a joke. You’re giving warrior MORE invulnerability? You’re giving eles a 3rd arcane damage skill to add to their all in burst? You’re giving phantasm condi bunkers a passive heal?

Does ANet even play this game? Seriously, everything you do is WRONG.

Healing Signet is a lot harder to deal with. It literally never stops. Defiant Stance is going to be a really short window where you do negative damage to the Warrior, cool fact, that allows you to stop dealing damage and stunt his healing. I doubt it’ll get much play over the OP healing signet that’s too good to activate in any circumstance.

Chaith.8256:

Caffynated.5713:

This has to be a joke. You’re giving warrior MORE invulnerability? You’re giving eles a 3rd arcane damage skill to add to their all in burst? You’re giving phantasm condi bunkers a passive heal?

Does ANet even play this game? Seriously, everything you do is WRONG.

Healing Signet is a lot harder to deal with. It literally never stops. Defiant Stance is going to be a really short window where you do negative damage to the Warrior, cool fact, that allows you to stop dealing damage and stunt his healing. I doubt it’ll get much play over the OP healing signet that’s too good to activate in any circumstance.

I actually like Defiant Stance. Invulns on a warrior are out of control b/c they are too strong when combined with OP HS. This is more like a better version of shelter perhaps (if it negates all damage), making bunker warrior more viable. The skill also has counter-play.

I am concerned about more instant damage on eles (plus an instant heal, usuable while cc’d). There is a lot of play in the design, but the other arcanes need to be changed to reduce the instant damage.

Most of the others seem o.k., but I really think you could make an unkillable engie with A.E.D + Elixir R + Inertial converter (trait) + automated response. I think a build abusing these things will see a great deal of QQ in the coming months, as engies specialize in decaps, can have great mobility, and now survive forever. Sound familiar?(looking at you cantrip ele).

BlackBeard.2873:

Chaith.8256:

Caffynated.5713:

This has to be a joke. You’re giving warrior MORE invulnerability? You’re giving eles a 3rd arcane damage skill to add to their all in burst? You’re giving phantasm condi bunkers a passive heal?

Does ANet even play this game? Seriously, everything you do is WRONG.

Healing Signet is a lot harder to deal with. It literally never stops. Defiant Stance is going to be a really short window where you do negative damage to the Warrior, cool fact, that allows you to stop dealing damage and stunt his healing. I doubt it’ll get much play over the OP healing signet that’s too good to activate in any circumstance.

I actually like Defiant Stance. Invulns on a warrior are out of control b/c they are too strong when combined with OP HS. This is more like a better version of shelter perhaps (if it negates all damage), making bunker warrior more viable. The skill also has counter-play.

I am concerned about more instant damage on eles (plus an instant heal, usuable while cc’d). There is a lot of play in the design, but the other arcanes need to be changed to reduce the instant damage.

Most of the others seem o.k., but I really think you could make an unkillable engie with A.E.D + Elixir R + Inertial converter (trait) + automated response. I think a build abusing these things will see a great deal of QQ in the coming months, as engies specialize in decaps, can have great mobility, and now survive forever. Sound familiar?(looking at you cantrip ele).

I don’t think A.E.D will be the best thing to combine with AR. I got a hefty cooldown and will heal you up above the condilimit, making you a target for condis again. And for elixir R it won’t be as abuseable with dual R ressing, you will not have the the chance to abuse both heal and toolbelt recharge as both are short duration based (to abuse them with recharge traits you have to use them before getting under 25%. Better would be using one of them and save a slot.

But all in all i wouldn’t call this a bunker heal as much as a hit and run heal. Hps, condiremoval and general support is still superior in the other heals, even if it heals you to full.

But ill admit the thought have crossed my mind.

miriforst.1290:

BlackBeard.2873:

Chaith.8256:

Caffynated.5713:

This has to be a joke. You’re giving warrior MORE invulnerability? You’re giving eles a 3rd arcane damage skill to add to their all in burst? You’re giving phantasm condi bunkers a passive heal?

Does ANet even play this game? Seriously, everything you do is WRONG.

Healing Signet is a lot harder to deal with. It literally never stops. Defiant Stance is going to be a really short window where you do negative damage to the Warrior, cool fact, that allows you to stop dealing damage and stunt his healing. I doubt it’ll get much play over the OP healing signet that’s too good to activate in any circumstance.

I actually like Defiant Stance. Invulns on a warrior are out of control b/c they are too strong when combined with OP HS. This is more like a better version of shelter perhaps (if it negates all damage), making bunker warrior more viable. The skill also has counter-play.

I am concerned about more instant damage on eles (plus an instant heal, usuable while cc’d). There is a lot of play in the design, but the other arcanes need to be changed to reduce the instant damage.

Most of the others seem o.k., but I really think you could make an unkillable engie with A.E.D + Elixir R + Inertial converter (trait) + automated response. I think a build abusing these things will see a great deal of QQ in the coming months, as engies specialize in decaps, can have great mobility, and now survive forever. Sound familiar?(looking at you cantrip ele).

I don’t think A.E.D will be the best thing to combine with AR. I got a hefty cooldown and will heal you up above the condilimit, making you a target for condis again. And for elixir R it won’t be as abuseable with dual R ressing, you will not have the the chance to abuse both heal and toolbelt recharge as both are short duration based (to abuse them with recharge traits you have to use them before getting under 25%. Better would be using one of them and save a slot.

But all in all i wouldn’t call this a bunker heal as much as a hit and run heal. Hps, condiremoval and general support is still superior in the other heals, even if it heals you to full.

But ill admit the thought have crossed my mind.

Well when fighitng condition builds you can hover just under 25% for as long as possible and not worry about dying by some random burst and get healed, repeat.