Guild Wars 2

Keep in mind,

Condition Mesmer with Torment on shatter + Perplexity

Condition Warrior with Mace and confusion on interrupt + Perplexity (9 stacks in 1 interrupt)

Condition Necro with Fear now being an interrupt

These are my main concerns however i’m sure people can list countless others.

Although I can see this would help bring more builds to PvP, 90% of these builds are some of the most overpowered in game.

Perplexity is still completely overpowered PLEASE do not put this into PvP. It has already killed a lot of peoples’ WvW experience don’t make it kill their PvP experience as well…

nobody wants a condition heavy bunker meta come back to gw2 … having balanced stats amulettes like celestial is really nice for balanced ele or maybe even mesmer for a hybrid kind of thing but perplexity in pvp…no please no

this is possibly the worst idea ever. the only thing worse would be dire stats in pvp.

Lol as an engineer who gets screwed by confusion… plz plz plz plz no. Its cool that mesmers may get confusion torment shatters… but god too much confusion flying around.

++++++++++1!

Dear Arena Net.

Don’t do it.

Amically yours.
Eternya.

hi anet and allie i still love you,
i even named my bird and wolf allie.

but pls dont do this or i will rename my pets to fraelin!

Suprah.5076:

Dear Arena Net.

If you really implement this rune in PvP , I will kill 10 kittens and 10 puppys , I will make a video this genocide and I will send it to you.

Amically yours.
Eternya.

What a terrible thing to joke about.

what about a perplexity rune that is nerfed? I think that sounds like the more likely scenario

Condition warriors will be even more OP as they are right now if this rune set is available in PvP ! Please, don’t do such a thing in order not to ruin all the efforts you made to balance PvP.

Arisal.9740:

Suprah.5076:

Dear Arena Net.

If you really implement this rune in PvP , I will kill 10 kittens and 10 puppys , I will make a video this genocide and I will send it to you.

Amically yours.
Eternya.

What a terrible thing to joke about.

This is why i’m not joking.

Suprah.5076:

Dear Arena Net.

If you really implement this rune in PvP , I will kill 10 kittens and 10 puppys , I will make a video this genocide and I will send it to you.

Amically yours.
Eternya.

i don’t care about the puppys but under the law of the ministry for cute furry cuddles the punishment for felinocide is death.

This rune set is broken

Perplexity Rune nerfed to applying 3 stacks of confusion on interrupt could be manageable but would still be insanely strong with condition warrior, it must also not stack with the warrior interrupt confusion trait or it is still a HUGE problem.

I completely agree with Frae, perplexity will just make condi warriors OP and now that fear counts as an interrupt, necros are going to be so strong. Im scared to see what the meta will be after this patch. DPS Meta>Condi Meta

Fraelin.7409:

Perplexity Rune nerfed to applying 3 stacks of confusion on interrupt could be manageable but would still be insanely strong with condition warrior, it must also not stack with the warrior interrupt confusion trait or it is still a HUGE problem.

3 stacks?
I wish it was like that.
They are the fully fledged 5 stacks perplexity runes, brought into PvP to ruin balance there too!

Perplexity in PvP is a horrible idea. It is not a good rune in any part of the game.

DeTriX.4503:

necros are going to be so strong

They nerf Duumfire so no.

No perplexity please

If perplexity Runes make it to live and still apply 5 confusion on Interrupt, it will absolutely ruin PvP. Condi Warrior and Condi Necro, and Condi Engi are just going to be AIDS.

+1 I even main the “confusion” class and I can promise you that perplexity will be STOOOPID if implemented in PvP. Warriors already have a trait that grants confusion on interrupt (why?!). Decap engi instead of having bunch of condi immunity it will spam more condis than necros… This is just no….Please reconsider this Anet….

This makes me so sad panda!! I even made a thread asking not to do this last week.

Everything is great, but perplexity is like introducing super-gonnaherpasiphilaids into pvp, just as they are trying to fix hambow, decap, and pw (although this change doesn’t really affect the thief problem).

besides taking perplexity out of pvp what would be acceptable (even more so) nerfs to it?
I am for not not having perplex but if they are set on keeping it bare minimum reduce stacks on 6th bonus.

Still though this is one of the many things that should never be added to pvp. Its just…. horrendous.

No perplexirino pls

If you are going to add runes of perplexity to PvP, PLEASE NERF THEM (see attached screenshot).

As they stand now, these runes will make the Meta terrible! Either don’t add them, or nerf them hard.

Suprah.5076:

DeTriX.4503:

necros are going to be so strong

They nerf Duumfire so no.

You do realise that using burning ON the right time will execute faster burst than its now?

Anyway, +1 for the perplexity to be removed. Anyone that has tried roaming knows how broken WvW roamin PvP is. Obviously anyone but Anet.

Perplexity has no place in PvP.

5 stacks of confusion holy kitten

Adding perplexity is as stupid as immobilize stacking.

Everything else is looking AWESOME with this patch, and then perplexity just craps all over that!

How would I nerf perplexity: 25-30s icd, and 3stacks of confusion.

5 stacks on interrupt for 8s is strong enough to just play an interrupt build, with additional condis ontop.

Guaranteed: Perplexity meta incoming!

Edit: looking at how they are “rebalanced” – it seems even stronger now! 3 stacks on being struck (25s icd) and 5 stacks every 15s from spamming interrupt skills. This will immediately be stage 4 cancer that metastasizes over the entire game and somehow makes us want for the days of decap engie and hambow domination (if that’s possible).

How about not adding perplexity at all

Dear A-Net,

I bet you… pls lissen this time to the community… dont implement this rune like diamondskin into the game… it’s totally broken.

The meta will turn into a condi/bunker meta, where everybody will play this rune in combination with very strong builds. (condi warrior, condi mesmer, condi necro, condi engineer,…)

Condition Mesmers (with the new traits)
Condition Warriors
Necromancers
S/D or P/P Thieves (with the new traits)
Engineers

Can you imagine the condifest?

looking at the rune set…. does anyone want an engi combo for toolkit pull (possible interrupt) then pry bar? I mean that alone is 10 stacks on a 10-12 second duration. that is ~1450 damage per proc.

Unless that is cleansed that is way way way over the top. And that is only an engi combo. We could make it far worse by rifle 2 immob into a concussion bomb for a 15 stack. or just pistol 3 into shield 4 or 5 in case pull didn’t interrupt…..geez.

Lets not forget mesmers/nercos either.

Haha poster above me… (new thief trait for steal apply confusion on steal)…

Are you kidding………….. even thieves can spam interrupt (pistol 4) with a steal for a instant 10 stack.

Perplexity is already AIDS in wvw roaming.

I think that I’d rather fight decap engies, hambows, and PW thieves than perplexity engies/necros/warriors/condi-thieves (esp engies).

No perplexirino pls

Not only is the amount of confusion a potential problem, but the confusion duration the runes provide maybe even more.

A shatter mesmer can stack significant confusion via confusing images and two quick shatter bursts with mind wrack and cry of frustration (12 right there). Assuming the new changes, if they throw in a daze mantra for interrupt that’s another 5, plus say a lucky on hit for another 3. That’s 20 long lasting confusion stacks. I can see the QQ already.

Granted mesmers can get that 10-12 currently, but condi-shatter isn’t widely used because 1) The durations are so low and 2) People are much more aware of their conditions in PvP and don’t kill themselves as readily as WvW.

12 short lasting stacks versus 20 long lasting stacks. Yeah I can see a potential problem.

Guys, there’s so many changes coming into the game. Let’s wait for the meta to settle for 6 months first.

Completely agree! I really hope Anet lets us change their minds about this.

I’d have to agree, adding perplexity right now could potentially create more problems than any positive effect it has on the game.

+1 for this thread. Terribad idea.

Also very concerned by cavalier stats. Cavalier makes warrior oh so stupid in wvw, please don’t put it in pvp aswell.

Instead of asking for its removal, how would you nerf it instead?

Maybe only 3 stacks per interruption?

Thedenofsin.7340:

Guys, there’s so many changes coming into the game. Let’s wait for the meta to settle for 6 months first.

Hehehehe, then in 6 months, we could increase the icd of the #4 ability by 5s and see how that affects this cancer.

Again, please don’t put in perplexity in the form you showed. Its stupid, incredibly OP, and absolutely miserable to fight against!

Perplexity will totally ruin the game.

Condi wars ( mostly) and engies will become the worst cancer this game ever met.

For the love of god don’t add perplexity its the only reason I left wvw.

Trahearne: “This won’t end well.”

Siva Mira.3546:

Trahearne: “This won’t end well.”

/10char

I have never seen so much agreement on this forum :p

/signed

I agree with Frae, adding these runes to PvP is a bad idea.

Marcos.3690:

5 stacks of confusion holy kitten

yep a mesmer fully traited for confusion cant do this. so this rune was a complete joke and should have never been released that way. at least it has a icd now, but it should not give this many stacks. but lets hope they nerf it first.btw if a shatter mesmer was to spec for the torment on shatter he would use tormenting runes and sigil for extra staacks and longer torment duration i think

new teef build called rabid p/p.

standard rotation. 4 auto 4 auto 4 auto, stomp