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Posted by: Viking Jorun.5413

Viking Jorun.5413

I know that I can’t be the only one absolutely fed up by the amount of AI-spam in PvP right now, both competitive and non-competitive, and the issue is only growing. The runes themselves aren’t bad in PvE or WvW, however the issue arises in that both Rock Dogs and Tropical Birds have massively high burst, increasing the overall DPS of a player running the runes much further than DPS runes which provide direct stat bonuses. The other issue that arises is the fact that there are AI-summon sigils out there which nobody takes due to the fact that better summons are more easily obtainable with runes that guarantee a summon early in the fight without the player providing any effort on their own behalf other than simply being ‘hit’. The easiest of solutions to the problem is to remove AI-summon runes from PvP altogether, forcing players to show a tidbit of skill outside of the AI doing the entirety of the work. The alternative to removing the runes from PvP would be a rebalance of both Pirate and Ogre runes to no longer summon pets, and be converted to sigils which summon the pets at 25 charges like every other AI-summon option.

That’s just my piece. I’m not whining, and I’m fairly certain most of us can agree that AI-spam isn’t fun and doesn’t lead to skillful gameplay.

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Posted by: adam.8692

adam.8692

I never liked AI in pvp. Now I show my bird to every person who hits me. It’s nice having someone who can play better than me on my side. I only wish he could stomp other players. Hopefully next patch will fix it.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

Bhawb.7408

There is no point making more useless 25 stack sigil summons, because they are useless. If you nerf the rune sets you might as well just get rid of the pet summoning part altogether. Also while I’m not doubting it is probably true, I’d love to see someone show the math that proves they are actually better than other options. The rock dog, at first look, does maybe 400 DPS or so while he’s alive, with less than 8k HP and a 90s CD.

Everyone talks about how easily Necromancer minions die in teamfights, yet even untraited everything except Bone Minions have higher base tankiness than these summoned pets, and with traiting Bone Minions are equally as tanky. I think the real issue is with Pirate runes, the bird evades far too much, artificially making itself tanky, and has a lower CD and higher chance to summon than Rock Dog. The bird just needs a little bit of a nerf.

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Posted by: Coulter.2315

Coulter.2315

The birds are bloody annoying…

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Posted by: Teckos.1305

Teckos.1305

i think it can be balances reduce the hp of the summons, increase the cooldown of the effect and only start the cooldown after the summon is dead. Also add an uptime to these summon, there counter play.

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

How about remove ALL AI with the exception of ranger pets and mesmer clones???

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Posted by: Charak.9761

Charak.9761

But without my bird, I would only have 2 pets

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Posted by: BlackBeard.2873

BlackBeard.2873

Just remove the high-evade uptime the bird has. Its ok if you want the bird to get some nice dps in if there is no cleave or the bird isn’t focused.

However, the high evasion uptime of the bird also makes it a dangerous proposition to try and burst the bird b/c it will probably just evade it. Its like an even smaller asuran s/d thief with worse animations.

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Posted by: Xista.7391

Xista.7391

Eh, I think it has a place. The procs are interesting in themselves.

But a the bird on Pirate rune lasts…. is it 30 seconds? 60 ?

It would be more interesting if the procs duration were less, or the summons were very low HP. It would allow for counter with either dodges or killing said AI. Right now, the bird really only dies in team fights =l

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

How about remove ALL AI with the exception of ranger pets and mesmer clones???

+1

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Posted by: XGhoul.7426

XGhoul.7426

Delete ranger, bring back ritualist.

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Posted by: Vile.5678

Vile.5678

How about remove ALL AI with the exception of ranger pets and mesmer clones???

+1

Also agree.

Warrior – Whrawl
Thief – Radderic
Mesmer – Smash Kablooey

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

Sagat.3285

How about remove ALL AI with the exception of ranger pets and mesmer clones???

+1

Also agree.

Not going to happen many players actually like AI and GW2 promote all types of gameplay in pvp so from burst,condi… to healer,hybrid,AI every style is accessible for every classes.

Warrior being the exception so they build him up to be self-sufficient thus naturally stronger than the others even tough I can’t think of what AI war can possibly have.

Necro is not necro without death minions it breaks role.

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

Jekkt.6045

How about remove ALL AI with the exception of ranger pets and mesmer clones???

+1

Also agree.

healer

never seen a true healer in this game. can you show me one?

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

Sagat.3285

How about remove ALL AI with the exception of ranger pets and mesmer clones???

+1

Also agree.

healer

never seen a true healer in this game. can you show me one?

You can’t be full healer or tank in this game they don’t allow it you’ll always have some other stats. Your build can be full healer or tank but the sets says :“NO SIR”.

Assasin,zerk and rampager are the only one-purpose sets(damage) every other sets have at least another purpose.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

How about remove ALL AI with the exception of ranger pets and mesmer clones???

But a Necromancer that cannot summon undead minions doesnt feel like a necromancer…

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Posted by: tanztante.6532

tanztante.6532

How about remove ALL AI with the exception of ranger pets and mesmer clones???

+1

Also agree.

healer

never seen a true healer in this game. can you show me one?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFAQJAoYhcMKc24wtBd0AiAG5OQCYBOKAUuFMCSBA-TJxGABA8AAy9EAwUZgh2fAA

:D

heals for ~3k on attunement switch, 300 per tick on water attunement, 400 per regen tick, 200 per restoration tick, ~6k on cleansing wave, does absolutely no damage, is tanky as kitten and therefore can be called the only true healer in this game.

plus, it’s completely useless in pvp

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

Jekkt.6045

gonna try that one out :P

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