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Posted by: Sly.9518

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

I did try it, clearly you are the one who didn’t. It dazed the golem on every pulse from that combo field. And I’m not the first one to come in this thread and correct you on this.

Stop spreading lies, you clearly don’t even understand how the skill works.

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Posted by: Sly.9518

Sly.9518

I did try it, clearly you are the one who didn’t. It dazed the golem on every pulse from that combo field. And I’m not the first one to come in this thread and correct you on this.

Stop spreading lies, you clearly don’t even understand how the skill works.

Let’s see a video of one CG proccing multiple dazes

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

My laptop can’t handle taking a video of GW2. But since you are so adamant that it procs only once every 2 ticks, then you post a video of it only proccing every 2 ticks.

Because you clearly haven’t even tested the skill.

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Posted by: Sly.9518

Sly.9518

My laptop can’t handle taking a video of GW2. But since you are so adamant that it procs only once every 2 ticks, then you post a video of it only proccing every 2 ticks.

Because you clearly haven’t even tested the skill.

I retract my previous statement, it his all four times which solidifies my suggestion of its ICD becomes 2 secs. That is stupid, but again the CG alone can’t get the stacks which is a plus.

In Pvp last night I wasn’t seeing the dazes hit everytime when people sat in the fields and that could be due to stab/cleanses etc. on a Golem it does show

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Posted by: Highlie.7641

Highlie.7641

They should probably consider increasing the stack size required to proc daze. With potent posion or even psn duration, It’s a bit to easy to apply.

Aoe dazes shouldn’t exist in the first place imo though.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

I would not be opposed to increasing the ICD on the daze applied by ICD, but I’d rather it just become another effect entirely. Daze is a really strong effect, even before you factor in any synergy with on interrupt traits. Yet CG hands it out pretty easily, especially when you factor in the enhanced poison application that thief got with this same patch.

Someone else suggested increasing the ini cost of CG, I don’t agree that that would be the best way to move forward though.

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Posted by: Zodryn.4216

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I’d give the patch time (at least a few days) to settle in before reacting. See how it effects things and if it needs a change you could have a 2s icd, higher stack requirement, shorter daze, or any combination of those things.

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Posted by: Crinn.7864

Crinn.7864

They should probably consider increasing the stack size required to proc daze. With potent posion or even psn duration, It’s a bit to easy to apply.

Aoe dazes shouldn’t exist in the first place imo though.

No the proc requirement is fine. The ICD should just apply to all targets, not be specific to each target.

The issue isn’t that it can daze spam one person. The issue is that can stop entire group power rezzes by CC spamming the entire rez.

If a thief puts 2-3 CG on a down the only way to get the rez is if a Mesmer does a 3-clone Distortion.

Sanity is for the weak minded.
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Posted by: Sly.9518

Sly.9518

Thankfully the skill by itself per application can’t reach the threshold to provide Dazes and Jaya why I think increasing the ICD is the best way to ensure it isn’t Overtuned.

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Posted by: Zodryn.4216

Zodryn.4216

If a thief puts 2-3 CG on a down the only way to get the rez is if a Mesmer does a 3-clone Distortion.

Or if you have resistance, stab, or one guy with a couple aoe cleanses.

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Posted by: Sly.9518

Sly.9518

If a thief puts 2-3 CG on a down the only way to get the rez is if a Mesmer does a 3-clone Distortion.

Or if you have resistance, stab, or one guy with a couple aoe cleanses.

Some players have a hard grasp on what counterplay is.

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Posted by: Crinn.7864

Crinn.7864

If a thief puts 2-3 CG on a down the only way to get the rez is if a Mesmer does a 3-clone Distortion.

Or if you have resistance, stab, or one guy with a couple aoe cleanses.

Resistance doesn’t do anything. CG just checks stack count, it doesn’t care if the poison effects are being applied.

Also pulsing daze will burn through stability stacks.

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Posted by: Zodryn.4216

Zodryn.4216

If a thief puts 2-3 CG on a down the only way to get the rez is if a Mesmer does a 3-clone Distortion.

Or if you have resistance, stab, or one guy with a couple aoe cleanses.

Resistance doesn’t do anything. CG just checks stack count, it doesn’t care if the poison effects are being applied.

Also pulsing daze will burn through stability stacks.

Resistance keeps additional stacks from being applied (obviously you need to make sure you’re under 5), so it doesn’t do nothing. And sure it’ll eventually get through stab, but you should have a few seconds for the rez. Point is there are options. And can’t you even teleport the body away with a necro or ranger (not sure if that’s changed, been away for two months). Or if a thief or ele is down they can leave the cg field themselves.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

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It does not keep additional stacks from being applied, it merely stops them from affecting you.

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

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oh my bad i thought you were saying the daze pulse has a 2sec icd.

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Posted by: Sly.9518

Sly.9518

snipples

oh my bad i thought you were saying the daze pulse has a 2sec icd.

No it needs a 2 sec ICD on it.

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Posted by: Highlie.7641

Highlie.7641

They should probably consider increasing the stack size required to proc daze. With potent posion or even psn duration, It’s a bit to easy to apply.

Aoe dazes shouldn’t exist in the first place imo though.

No the proc requirement is fine. The ICD should just apply to all targets, not be specific to each target.

The issue isn’t that it can daze spam one person. The issue is that can stop entire group power rezzes by CC spamming the entire rez.

If a thief puts 2-3 CG on a down the only way to get the rez is if a Mesmer does a 3-clone Distortion.

That could work. Chances are it will get toned down eventually, most thieves that i’ve talked to admit it’s a bit too good.

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Posted by: Zintrothen.1056

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Yep. No CD skill with a daze. It’s like if Chaos Storm had no CD. It’s just wrong and has extremely little counterplay.

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Posted by: Crinn.7864

Crinn.7864

Resistance keeps additional stacks from being applied (obviously you need to make sure you’re under 5),.

Resistance does not prevent condi application.

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Posted by: Bigpapasmurf.5623

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I have to agree with OP. The thing is that thieves have taken the short bow as their secondary weapon for as long as the game has existed. SB 6 is just THAT strong. Arena Net: Not every weapon needs a CC to be useful.

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