Guild Wars 2

Rlly anet wake the kitten1ng up

+1

That Salamander guy in some old post:

Necromancer:
Boon corrupt on the scepter auto attack?…ANet, ever heard of the phrase: “if it’s not broken, don’t fix it”? These skills were perfectly fine already. That scepter boon corrupt shouldn’t even be in the game, but if it were to be put in the game, it should be on the axe auto because axe needs love, is the necro boon corrupt weapon, and desperately needs an auto-chain. What game are you playing where condi reaper needs a buff? …

That same guy in response to his own post:

Some folks disagreed with me on this one, but I think the past 3 weeks have shown us that the above comment is still spot on: the scepter auto-attack rewards auto-spam by perma-fearing anyone pulsing stability (ranger shout elite, RS#3, juggernaut, etc.). Robert Gee went to great length to explain to us that the underpowered necro axe auto couldn’t be buffed because it wasn’t a projectile, and then ANet went ahead and gave scepter an amazing auto-chain. The HoT elite specs introduced so many new forms of crowd-control that PvP these days is just an exercise in tossing (and being tossed) about like a ragdoll…so naturally, people bring stability. And now a non-projectile auto-attack can basically spam-corrupt stability. It’s so over the top. The boon corrupt on scepter auto needs to be removed ASAP….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Disapointing-balance-preview/first#post5989378

Honestly I never liked this one, the condition it applies as an auto attack were stupid. I would prefer if they instead of the the corrupt just placed a remove boon and an application of a weaker condi if it removed a boon if they felt the need to buff scepter.

Tim.6450:

Honestly I never liked this one, the condition it applies as an auto attack were stupid. I would prefer if they instead of the the corrupt just placed a remove boon and an application of a weaker condi if it removed a boon if they felt the need to buff scepter.

when i’m revenant, i’m getting perma feared by autoattack… no sense

Shala.8352:

Tim.6450:

Honestly I never liked this one, the condition it applies as an auto attack were stupid. I would prefer if they instead of the the corrupt just placed a remove boon and an application of a weaker condi if it removed a boon if they felt the need to buff scepter.

when i’m revenant, i’m getting perma feared by autoattack… no sense

It does actually: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Weakening_Shroud + runes of nightmare + wanderers amulet is already +75% weakness uptime.

I like it but only because EVERYONE has stability in stacks now….

Did you dodge? HAVE SOME STAB
Did you evade an attack? HAVE SOME STAB
You got dazed? HAVE SOME STAB
Someone was a bully and knocked you over? HAVE SOME STAB
Congrats on your Gyro, HAVE SOME STAB.

sephiroth.4217:

I like it but only because EVERYONE has stability in stacks now….

Did you dodge? HAVE SOME STAB
Did you evade an attack? HAVE SOME STAB
You got dazed? HAVE SOME STAB
Someone was a bully and knocked you over? HAVE SOME STAB
Congrats on your Gyro, HAVE SOME STAB.

everyone has stab cuz everyone has CC spam.
So it makes sense to add a corrupt boon on autoattack? Unfortunately certain class cant avoid to get boons.

Who stands around AAing? Its semi rare to get the full 3 off. You are way over estimating its usefulness.

Shala.8352:

sephiroth.4217:

I like it but only because EVERYONE has stability in stacks now….

Did you dodge? HAVE SOME STAB
Did you evade an attack? HAVE SOME STAB
You got dazed? HAVE SOME STAB
Someone was a bully and knocked you over? HAVE SOME STAB
Congrats on your Gyro, HAVE SOME STAB.

everyone has stab cuz everyone has CC spam.
So it makes sense to add a corrupt boon on autoattack? Unfortunately certain class cant avoid to get boons.

It does on Necro, we don’t spew stab like other classes.

Also, if you’re dying to just scepter AA, then it’s a L2P issue…. I’ve been in plenty of games where my enemy lets me stand still and pewpew that auto, especially trap guards.

A scrapper with below average skills can walk all over a reaper, infact anyone can just by getting close and moving around because it will reset the AA chain (or any skill they were currently using resets to 3s if you just walk behind them or through them), but sure, keep your distance, don’t dodge the 3rd attack and keep on asking for nerfs.

NON PROJECTILE RANGED CONDITION APPLICATION.

Not only is there zero counterplay options besides los, IT’S THE STRONGEST ranged condition application. only thing that comes close to application or burst is engi p/p

Get a brain and fix 2 of 3 things minimum. Projectiles, Strength, Free corruption

There should never be a SINGLE AUTO ATTACK that applies 3 seperate conditions.

sephiroth.4217:

Shala.8352:

sephiroth.4217:

I like it but only because EVERYONE has stability in stacks now….

Did you dodge? HAVE SOME STAB
Did you evade an attack? HAVE SOME STAB
You got dazed? HAVE SOME STAB
Someone was a bully and knocked you over? HAVE SOME STAB
Congrats on your Gyro, HAVE SOME STAB.

everyone has stab cuz everyone has CC spam.
So it makes sense to add a corrupt boon on autoattack? Unfortunately certain class cant avoid to get boons.

It does on Necro, we don’t spew stab like other classes.

Also, if you’re dying to just scepter AA, then it’s a L2P issue…. I’ve been in plenty of games where my enemy lets me stand still and pewpew that auto, especially trap guards.

A scrapper with below average skills can walk all over a reaper, infact anyone can just by getting close and moving around because it will reset the AA chain (or any skill they were currently using resets to 3s if you just walk behind them or through them), but sure, keep your distance, don’t dodge the 3rd attack and keep on asking for nerfs.

so now i have also to dodge the 3rd autoattack? not only all the spamm autotargeted impossible to see animation of necro aoe and chilled when i touch him, now i have to count their autoattacks and dodge the third one, tell me just in comparison, how many autoattacks of DH you dodge? Cuz if you even dodge one, i’ll tell you l2p.
And the walk all over a reaper doesnt make a sense, this is just another example of how unskilled necro players are, cuz in fact THEY CAN ROTATE TOO WHILE ATTACKING!!!! INSTEAD OF HOLD IN YOUR PLACE spamming attacks, LEARN TO MOVE LIKE ANY OTHER CLASS NEED TO DO!!!

So off course, the average scrapper will be able to walk all over the reaper and moving around, IFFFF the reaper doesnt make any relative movement XD XD

Ranged weapons AA should never be “good”, maybe alright. It’s supposed to allow you to kite and stall, but do minor dmg in the process. Ranger should do slightly more just for being a ranger.

…but that’s balance talk and this is ANet.

Without boon corrupt scrapper would be even more op. Id rather have more boon corrupt spread to other professions to make them useful – like boon corrupt on shouts for warriors and removing boon corrupt from scepter for that.
But just removing it will make certain builds that are already way op thanks to boon spam even more so.

Shala.8352:

sephiroth.4217:

Shala.8352:

sephiroth.4217:

I like it but only because EVERYONE has stability in stacks now….

Did you dodge? HAVE SOME STAB
Did you evade an attack? HAVE SOME STAB
You got dazed? HAVE SOME STAB
Someone was a bully and knocked you over? HAVE SOME STAB
Congrats on your Gyro, HAVE SOME STAB.

everyone has stab cuz everyone has CC spam.
So it makes sense to add a corrupt boon on autoattack? Unfortunately certain class cant avoid to get boons.

It does on Necro, we don’t spew stab like other classes.

Also, if you’re dying to just scepter AA, then it’s a L2P issue…. I’ve been in plenty of games where my enemy lets me stand still and pewpew that auto, especially trap guards.

A scrapper with below average skills can walk all over a reaper, infact anyone can just by getting close and moving around because it will reset the AA chain (or any skill they were currently using resets to 3s if you just walk behind them or through them), but sure, keep your distance, don’t dodge the 3rd attack and keep on asking for nerfs.

so now i have also to dodge the 3rd autoattack? not only all the spamm autotargeted impossible to see animation of necro aoe and chilled when i touch him, now i have to count their autoattacks and dodge the third one, tell me just in comparison, how many autoattacks of DH you dodge? Cuz if you even dodge one, i’ll tell you l2p.
And the walk all over a reaper doesnt make a sense, this is just another example of how unskilled necro players are, cuz in fact THEY CAN ROTATE TOO WHILE ATTACKING!!!! INSTEAD OF HOLD IN YOUR PLACE spamming attacks, LEARN TO MOVE LIKE ANY OTHER CLASS NEED TO DO!!!

So off course, the average scrapper will be able to walk all over the reaper and moving around, IFFFF the reaper doesnt make any relative movement XD XD

Well due to all the Reapers lately I’ve been playing a Marauder Scrapper and it’s producing easy trade offs… I offered you some basic tactical advice to PvP by running through your opponent and making use of basic positioning. It’s not hard to dodge the 3rd AA, wether it’s called for is completely up to you. Personally I only dodge it when I have stability up.

I don’t dodge any DH auto, on engie I use reflective shields.

Tell me your class and what you have trouble with and I’m sure I can think of a few quick ways to help you with your problems.

There’s also the most basic solution, you will find many players do this regularly, but press ctrl + T on the Necro from the start engagement… A lot of players who have played PvP for a while know that Reaper/Rev is the start choice on who to burst first. Followed up by Ele/Guard then onto ranger/scrapper. Mes and Thief are usually left to last due to stealth and mobility, which make them harder kills and harder to focus, you also lose your target IF they stealthed.

There’s also playstyles that come into it, if you’re like most of my enemies who charge head first into an engagement with leaps or stealth or what ever then you’re more than likely to lose… Very rarely I come across another player who will size me up and strafe from side to side throwing out weak attacks waiting on prime conditions for a burst, an example of this would be Necro and Marks, most Necro I see they throw down ALL of the marks in the same spot, then complain they died to conditions or ran out of transfers… No thought at all about their skills, just spam and rely on passives to win.

Salamander.2504:

+1

That Salamander guy in some old post:

Necromancer:
Boon corrupt on the scepter auto attack?…ANet, ever heard of the phrase: “if it’s not broken, don’t fix it”? These skills were perfectly fine already. That scepter boon corrupt shouldn’t even be in the game, but if it were to be put in the game, it should be on the axe auto because axe needs love, is the necro boon corrupt weapon, and desperately needs an auto-chain. What game are you playing where condi reaper needs a buff? …

That same guy in response to his own post:

Some folks disagreed with me on this one, but I think the past 3 weeks have shown us that the above comment is still spot on: the scepter auto-attack rewards auto-spam by perma-fearing anyone pulsing stability (ranger shout elite, RS#3, juggernaut, etc.). Robert Gee went to great length to explain to us that the underpowered necro axe auto couldn’t be buffed because it wasn’t a projectile, and then ANet went ahead and gave scepter an amazing auto-chain. The HoT elite specs introduced so many new forms of crowd-control that PvP these days is just an exercise in tossing (and being tossed) about like a ragdoll…so naturally, people bring stability. And now a non-projectile auto-attack can basically spam-corrupt stability. It’s so over the top. The boon corrupt on scepter auto needs to be removed ASAP….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Disapointing-balance-preview/first#post5989378

were u jus quoting ur self in 3rd person? i lik it.

That Jaxom says some smart things too whoever he is. u all should really look into his comments.

yep, yep i agree.

but i do lik the boon corrupt. too much enchantments all around this place

I think corrupt boon in general is stupid. Remove it completely

Yea lets all go back to boon wars 2…. (no)

Honestly it should have been a trait that would add boon corrupt on scepter AA

Anyone who thinks the boon corrupt on scepter is op doesn’t play necro much. When you’re constantly watching people’s boons and conditions to maximize skills you really notice just how many boons are around and just how little boon corrupt does to fight against it. You will constantly see boons being reapplied immediately after casting corrupt boon and sometimes the condis cleared too. Against some classes with low self boon application it may seem op in a 1v1 but with all of the boons flying around from classes that can and/or have a support class nearby all of the boon corruptions combined, including the scepter AA, really just puts a dent in the boon spam.

Tbh, Id rather have old corruption traits and corrupt boon back, then the current AA kitten.

lets suppress boon on AA first

i think scepter autoattack corrupt boon wasnt the way to counter the boon meta we had before. Nerfing the access to boon spam was much better choice. I would have even acceppted better “remove boon on autoattack” than this.
Unfortunately, anet always chose the easy way of the power creep. So, to nerf boon stacking of certain class (revenant, scrapper and co) they buffed one single class. Result is, that ye maybe scrapper vs reaper is more fairly, but warrior what have to say? Warrior has to be happy to be feared on autoattack cuz he activate stab on berserker mode? Should be happy to get 10 seconds of weaknes (i repeat 10 seconds!!!!!!!) cuz he get an amazing 2 stack of might while swapping weapon (wich is relatively what? a 2% more dmg?) Is this the way you see game balance?

As someone said, corrupt boons in general seems a little bit overtuned. I dont even start about talking of the Corrupt boon skill itself (15 seconds CD, 3 boons corrupted, 1200 range, unblockable, seems legit, warrior in counterpart has one single utility with less of 20 seconds cd, wich is just a breakstun… i cant find along all other classes any utility more powerfull than Corrupt boon). Weaknes is too powerfull too. Should be the counterpart of vigor, but instead it also reduce like a lot the dmg output, especialy if the opponent has high precision stat. In fact, weakness is the counterpart of vigor (still more efficient than it) and fury toghether.
I think weakness should be split in 2 different condition, one that decrease the endurance regeneration, and one that decrease the critical chance. Also, as fury increase only 20 critical chance, weakness instead cause a 50% TOTAL DMG decreased. So rather decrease like a lot the spam of weakness, or change it.

Jaxom.7310:

Salamander.2504:

+1

That Salamander guy in some old post:

Necromancer:
Boon corrupt on the scepter auto attack?…ANet, ever heard of the phrase: “if it’s not broken, don’t fix it”? These skills were perfectly fine already. That scepter boon corrupt shouldn’t even be in the game, but if it were to be put in the game, it should be on the axe auto because axe needs love, is the necro boon corrupt weapon, and desperately needs an auto-chain. What game are you playing where condi reaper needs a buff? …

That same guy in response to his own post:

Some folks disagreed with me on this one, but I think the past 3 weeks have shown us that the above comment is still spot on: the scepter auto-attack rewards auto-spam by perma-fearing anyone pulsing stability (ranger shout elite, RS#3, juggernaut, etc.). Robert Gee went to great length to explain to us that the underpowered necro axe auto couldn’t be buffed because it wasn’t a projectile, and then ANet went ahead and gave scepter an amazing auto-chain. The HoT elite specs introduced so many new forms of crowd-control that PvP these days is just an exercise in tossing (and being tossed) about like a ragdoll…so naturally, people bring stability. And now a non-projectile auto-attack can basically spam-corrupt stability. It’s so over the top. The boon corrupt on scepter auto needs to be removed ASAP….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Disapointing-balance-preview/first#post5989378

were u jus quoting ur self in 3rd person? i lik it.

That Jaxom says some smart things too whoever he is. u all should really look into his comments.

yep, yep i agree.

but i do lik the boon corrupt. too much enchantments all around this place

Yeah. If I don’t no one else will

Shala.8352:

Tim.6450:

Honestly I never liked this one, the condition it applies as an auto attack were stupid. I would prefer if they instead of the the corrupt just placed a remove boon and an application of a weaker condi if it removed a boon if they felt the need to buff scepter.

when i’m revenant, i’m getting perma feared by autoattack… no sense

That’s b/c ‘when you’re Rev’, you have ridiculous uptime on stability. I’m not saying that scepter auto is balanced, but using “Rev getting feared” is silly. I hope you can, see past your Muarader amulet, why…

On that note please also remove every passive invulnerability skill in the game. IMO that’s more cancerous then anything else

Rebound.3409:

On that note please also remove every passive invulnerability skill in the game. IMO that’s more cancerous then anything else

And remove every stuns, daze, 100-0 bursts.

sephiroth.4217:

I like it but only because EVERYONE has stability in stacks now….

Did you dodge? HAVE SOME STAB
Did you evade an attack? HAVE SOME STAB
You got dazed? HAVE SOME STAB
Someone was a bully and knocked you over? HAVE SOME STAB
Congrats on your Gyro, HAVE SOME STAB.

Despite the clearly sarcastic tone, I guess that this is the truth. Right now every meta build has everything, dodges, invuln, stab, cc, damage reduction modifiers.. too much going on, too much power creep.

Nerf everything down to warrior level.

Frenk.5917:

sephiroth.4217:

I like it but only because EVERYONE has stability in stacks now….

Did you dodge? HAVE SOME STAB
Did you evade an attack? HAVE SOME STAB
You got dazed? HAVE SOME STAB
Someone was a bully and knocked you over? HAVE SOME STAB
Congrats on your Gyro, HAVE SOME STAB.

Despite the clearly sarcastic tone, I guess that this is the truth. Right now every meta build has everything, dodges, invuln, stab, cc, damage reduction modifiers.. too much going on, too much power creep.

Nerf everything down to warrior level.

Why is everyone saying everyone got stability lol..

Guess my thief must be bugged!

+1 I agree with the title

no, keep it.

its fine as it is.

Here shows the problem of global power creep: the scepter AA is not broken, everything is. Power creep chain:

1. everyone has insane amount of CC
2. to balance it, many have perma-stability
3. to balance it, reaper got constant corrupt boon

Same thing with damage:

1. everyone has insane damage
2. to balance it, many have perma-protection
3. to balance it, reaper got constant corrupt boon

So if you want to fix scepter AA (and I think it should be fixed), you should also remove the boon orgy. And if you do that, you should also significantly tone down damage and CC.

#anetpleasefixpowercreep

Now if every necro was rocking a sceptre I’d agree, but all I see are staff/axe warhorn necros. I think I must be one of the few using sceptre focus/staff.

Terrorsquad.4802:

Frenk.5917:

sephiroth.4217:

I like it but only because EVERYONE has stability in stacks now….

Did you dodge? HAVE SOME STAB
Did you evade an attack? HAVE SOME STAB
You got dazed? HAVE SOME STAB
Someone was a bully and knocked you over? HAVE SOME STAB
Congrats on your Gyro, HAVE SOME STAB.

Despite the clearly sarcastic tone, I guess that this is the truth. Right now every meta build has everything, dodges, invuln, stab, cc, damage reduction modifiers.. too much going on, too much power creep.

Nerf everything down to warrior level.

Why is everyone saying everyone got stability lol..

Guess my thief must be bugged!

People are complaining that they pulse stab, and it gets corrupted to terror by sceptekittenrsonally what I seen is boons come back super fast for AA to do any real damage, you have to bring utilities to even keep up along with scepter AA.
And that the current meta classes, scrapper,herald, etc tend to pulse, or reapply stability.

As mentioned, the problem goes much much further than boon corruption. CC, damage, boon spamming, it has all reached crazy levels. I mean, in pve you don’t even blast fire fields for might anymore, you just make sure to bring warrior/rev.

So yes, as a Necro I am saying boon corrupt on scepter auto was a baffling change, and I’m sure they only introduced it so that we could drop Spite and signets and pick up Curses and corruptions instead while maintaining our great boon corruption.

That being said, you can not nerf a symptom of the problem until you take care of the problem’s roots, which involves nerfs to Rev, Druid, Scrapper, and Tempest.

Sure if you remove the crazy boon spam at the same time.. Are you really getting with this so often? I don’t…

Terrorsquad.4802:

Frenk.5917:

sephiroth.4217:

I like it but only because EVERYONE has stability in stacks now….

Did you dodge? HAVE SOME STAB
Did you evade an attack? HAVE SOME STAB
You got dazed? HAVE SOME STAB
Someone was a bully and knocked you over? HAVE SOME STAB
Congrats on your Gyro, HAVE SOME STAB.

Despite the clearly sarcastic tone, I guess that this is the truth. Right now every meta build has everything, dodges, invuln, stab, cc, damage reduction modifiers.. too much going on, too much power creep.

Nerf everything down to warrior level.

Why is everyone saying everyone got stability lol..

Guess my thief must be bugged!

And now my screen has my morning coffee on it, thanks for the laugh

Silverkey.2078:

Here shows the problem of global power creep: the scepter AA is not broken, everything is. Power creep chain:

1. everyone has insane amount of CC
2. to balance it, many have perma-stability
3. to balance it, reaper got constant corrupt boon

Same thing with damage:

1. everyone has insane damage
2. to balance it, many have perma-protection
3. to balance it, reaper got constant corrupt boon

So if you want to fix scepter AA (and I think it should be fixed), you should also remove the boon orgy. And if you do that, you should also significantly tone down damage and CC.

#anetpleasefixpowercreep

Exactly. This, can’t be stressed enough.

But community managers NEVER come here. So, that crucial information will NEVER reach a higher level. Anyway, it doesn’t matter, because the balance team will NEVER put ANY effort.

Failures “leave” ANet (good riddance), but without fresh blood, I can’t see anything changing anytime soon.

It’s fine. You still have to land full AA chain to get that 1 corrupt. May sound incredible in theory and on paper, but is hardly a big factor in practice. Unless you get to stand somewhere and freecast autoattack for dozen of seconds, but who would let you do that.

I once died to a ranger. Analysis: nerf arrows!

sephiroth.4217:

Terrorsquad.4802:

Frenk.5917:

sephiroth.4217:

I like it but only because EVERYONE has stability in stacks now….

Did you dodge? HAVE SOME STAB
Did you evade an attack? HAVE SOME STAB
You got dazed? HAVE SOME STAB
Someone was a bully and knocked you over? HAVE SOME STAB
Congrats on your Gyro, HAVE SOME STAB.

Despite the clearly sarcastic tone, I guess that this is the truth. Right now every meta build has everything, dodges, invuln, stab, cc, damage reduction modifiers.. too much going on, too much power creep.

Nerf everything down to warrior level.

Why is everyone saying everyone got stability lol..

Guess my thief must be bugged!

And now my screen has my morning coffee on it, thanks for the laugh

Sorry, I guess my meta-thief is stuck in progress.

guys i dont get what you are talking about. You dont have to land consecutively 3 autoattacks to land the boon corrupt, you dont lose the chain if you get dodged the second attack. i can dodge meanwhile, using an utility and still not lose the chain. So what are you talking about? THIRD AUTOATTACK FO SCEPTER IS NOOOOT HARD TO LAND, its 1 second and half and you wil land it.

I get that there’s a lot of stability spam (still remember that for some melee class, playing without stab is like saying “you cant land your skills”, i already explained a lot of tons of times, that getting stunned for a melee is much more worst than for a ranged, since he is not loosing only those seconds of stun duration in terms of dps, but he is also loosing the gap closing, so he lose much mooooar dps), but really the stab corruption is not the only problem. If i get corrupted my single stack of might wich is 2% more dps i have, to get weakness for 10 seconds, if you really want all this corrupt spam, we should rewiew also the corruption table entirely.

I tried it, the scepter is fast, in 1 second and half i will have corrupted your boon, and if it’s might, means you will have 10 seconds of weakness, this is already a 50% less dmg i’m recieving, wich is much more less damage than the ele protection time.
I think we are lucky necro still have to understand the power of the scepter autoattack, else people would agree much more with me.
I dont even start talking about resistence that should be the counter of condi and is countered by… corruption… so what will be next step? add the boon/traits/skills/utility uncorruptable? Wake up guys, stop defending necro cuz you finaly had a chance to get legend carried by this class. We are talking of not ruining the game. Scepter autoattack is one of those thing that goes on the direction of ruining the game.

I rlly want any of you come to challenge my necro scepter spam with his revenant and see how much dmg they will be able to do with perma weakness and perma chill, while my condi are thicking. Rlly try it, there’s not a second you dont have weakness or chill on you, and this is horrible gameplay experience.

If there’s people who dont agree that scepter autoattack is too strong, then all is vain, we already lost our objectivity and people are defending it cuz of personal interests.

I am totally fine with the remove of that corrupt when the real broken classes will get a shave aswell which is rly needed. This means rev survivability and scrapper aswell. U gain stab on dodge as rev, have 7k dmg on 4s cd, dodges u can spam while removing root, chill and cripple and it is a stunbreak aswell, u have a passive 3 s taunt and a healing block where ur ele can heal u up ez. Furthermore u have two heals, one of them is an invul aswell, which heals u full hp when u finally have a lot of condis on u. Scrapper is tanky aswell, has superspeed, aoe moa, slickshoes, reflect, evade, tons of dmg and passive invuln. If u still fail in a fight to fin u pull out ur rng rampage.

So yeah necro scepter aa is broken.

Shala.8352:

guys i dont get what you are talking about. You dont have to land consecutively 3 autoattacks to land the boon corrupt, you dont lose the chain if you get dodged the second attack. i can dodge meanwhile, using an utility and still not lose the chain. So what are you talking about? THIRD AUTOATTACK FO SCEPTER IS NOOOOT HARD TO LAND, its 1 second and half and you wil land it.

I get that there’s a lot of stability spam (still remember that for some melee class, playing without stab is like saying “you cant land your skills”, i already explained a lot of tons of times, that getting stunned for a melee is much more worst than for a ranged, since he is not loosing only those seconds of stun duration in terms of dps, but he is also loosing the gap closing, so he lose much mooooar dps), but really the stab corruption is not the only problem. If i get corrupted my single stack of might wich is 2% more dps i have, to get weakness for 10 seconds, if you really want all this corrupt spam, we should rewiew also the corruption table entirely.

I tried it, the scepter is fast, in 1 second and half i will have corrupted your boon, and if it’s might, means you will have 10 seconds of weakness, this is already a 50% less dmg i’m recieving, wich is much more less damage than the ele protection time.
I think we are lucky necro still have to understand the power of the scepter autoattack, else people would agree much more with me.
I dont even start talking about resistence that should be the counter of condi and is countered by… corruption… so what will be next step? add the boon/traits/skills/utility uncorruptable? Wake up guys, stop defending necro cuz you finaly had a chance to get legend carried by this class. We are talking of not ruining the game. Scepter autoattack is one of those thing that goes on the direction of ruining the game.

I rlly want any of you come to challenge my necro scepter spam with his revenant and see how much dmg they will be able to do with perma weakness and perma chill, while my condi are thicking. Rlly try it, there’s not a second you dont have weakness or chill on you, and this is horrible gameplay experience.

If there’s people who dont agree that scepter autoattack is too strong, then all is vain, we already lost our objectivity and people are defending it cuz of personal interests.

First, if you’re going to make an argument, double-check your facts. Weakness cannot reach a 50% average damage reduction. At most, it’s around 40%, but keep in mind this is completely variable based on your crit chance and crit damage (interestingly, only on those). A 40% reduction requires high amounts of both.

Likewise, you completely forget aftercasts on skills when you talk timing. The Necro Scepter auto chain actually takes about 3 seconds to complete in full, or half the frequency you are using in your argument. Necros have no native sources of Quickness either, so this is largely a non-factor. This does mean that a Necro can’t interrupt your stability stomp that way unless he was already autoing you, as the stomp will complete before his chain does (even then, the only profession this will likely work against is ironically Necros themselves).

Finally, if you’re trying to auto-spam against a Revenant, they will just destroy you if they have any skill. It might work against a Glint/Ventari Cleric’s build, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone run that in PvP.

Honestly the only time I ever really find myself spamming auto attack on my scepter is against necs in 1v1 when they activate death armor. But actually relying on it to … omg remove all the boons. No. I use my utilities for those because they are more reliable.

Other scenarios are to basically finish off someone when they are at low health, and on the verge but even then I’m not really thinking… “gee I hope this corruption really kills him” Usually the bleed, and poison it stacks or what I’m hoping will do the job.

well you should try it more often^^ is particulary destroying revenant. I tried to run in unranked just to see how imbalanced it is. I made a necro, i bought a scepter, and i run without any elite and only spectral armour as utility, and only scepter as weapon (and no sigills of course). I killed a revenant, a mesmer, a ranger in 1v1. Well also a warrior but that doesnt count rlly, that class almost kill itself when it plays XD XD XD XD XD

Sure if i equipped a staff i would have done much more quicker to spamm marks etc, and off course i swapped to death shroud when i was in trouble or i wanted to add some condi to the mix, but rlly scepter autoattack is already very strong as it is, it didnt required that corrupt boon buff. I won literaly with only a scepter equipped, thats all. I cant do that with any class in the game.

Edit: for the noob saying weakness doesnt diminuish dps by 50%, go read wiki.
And also always for that noob saying that 3 seconds is too much time for a corrupt boon, i can tell 2 things: first, you are not slapping butterflys while autoattacking, and really 3 seconds is too much for having a corrupt boon? what do you want? corrupt boon on every kittening attack??

I do, but as I said I don’t rely on it, but only for when my opponent is on his last legs. You can spin it, and yea it helps but it was usually my utilities that put my opponent in that position in the first place. Not just my scepter alone.

Shala.8352:

Tim.6450:

Honestly I never liked this one, the condition it applies as an auto attack were stupid. I would prefer if they instead of the the corrupt just placed a remove boon and an application of a weaker condi if it removed a boon if they felt the need to buff scepter.

when i’m revenant, i’m getting perma feared by autoattack… no sense

Lel, mad you cant have 100% stab uptime?

Death to revs.

Sorry, not sorry.

Shala.8352:

Tim.6450:

Honestly I never liked this one, the condition it applies as an auto attack were stupid. I would prefer if they instead of the the corrupt just placed a remove boon and an application of a weaker condi if it removed a boon if they felt the need to buff scepter.

when i’m revenant, i’m getting perma feared by autoattack… no sense

I need to know how to do that. My necros never perma feared anyone.

Shala.8352:

well you should try it more often^^ is particulary destroying revenant. I tried to run in unranked just to see how imbalanced it is. I made a necro, i bought a scepter, and i run without any elite and only spectral armour as utility, and only scepter as weapon (and no sigills of course). I killed a revenant, a mesmer, a ranger in 1v1. Well also a warrior but that doesnt count rlly, that class almost kill itself when it plays XD XD XD XD XD

So, you managed to kill some total noobs. Good job, but what does that prove?

Shala.8352:

I won literaly with only a scepter equipped, thats all. I cant do that with any class in the game.

With enemies on that level you probably could.

Finally some fun with necros and you want take it. Everytime when I face 1v1 reaper it is like good vs evil. Necro corrupt my boons to condi, and I transfer condi into boons… I have with scrappy many boons up, and never had many problems with scepter… where you take this bullsh—-(sorry) if someone have time to land 1 aa scepter chain that is ok… 1 corrupt boon, 1 fast cleanse. 2nd chain is something wrong and 3rd you facing low skill team. So, I am meaby necro hater, but scepter boon corrupt is ok.