Guild Wars 2

Based on the state of the game so far, if you can choose between:

(1) A new map of dominion mode
(2)A new gamemode on existing maps

for the next PvP update, which will it be?

Simply vote by replying below. This thread will be updated daily to record your decision.

(1)-New Map
7 votes
(2)-New Mode
20 votes

(Updated Friday, 7 February 2014, 08:23:24 PST)
(please refrain from voting “New Game” or hyperbole. Be practical. All is vain not.)

@ New game @

Just make a strawpoll and put a link here.

New gamemode. Absolutely.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Why not both? New game mode on a new map.

Sounds great when you say it like that but… are you saying you guys could actually generate those things within the next few years? lol.

Why not balance professions for pve?

Why not fix pve boss mechanics?

Why not add new weapons for classes?

Why not add new skills for each profession?

Why not add new regions to the world?

Yeah…

As for the topic, I vote new game mode! Oh. And trash Skyhammer.

Game mode first. To the best of my knowledge new maps would take longer.

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Evan Lesh.3295:

Why not both? New game mode on a new map.

Yes and no. I would appreciate a new mode for EVERY maps (deathmatch, CTF) but not a new mode on just a new map (unless, of course, that’s an epic game mode like an 8v8 “conquer the keep” wvw style).

It’s actually known that new game modes + new maps are coming.
You can see some prototypes here: (from 32 min)
http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/c/3283865
Looking great, right ?

I am hoping that some of them will make it to feature-only release at least first map for new game mode (like that “Arena”).

Stx.4857:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Why not both? New game mode on a new map.

Sounds great when you say it like that but… are you saying you guys could actually generate those things within the next few years? lol.

Why not balance professions for pve?

Why not fix pve boss mechanics?

Why not add new weapons for classes?

Why not add new skills for each profession?

Why not add new regions to the world?

Yeah…

As for the topic, I vote new game mode! Oh. And trash Skyhammer.

All of these things are done by different teams, so to you I say:

Why not all of these things?

Evan Lesh.3295:

Why not both? New game mode on a new map.

Don’t tease the community Evan Lesh, It’s not nice.

Countless

Evan Lesh.3295:

We’ve shown our prototype maps already for new game modes. Our current maps really are designed specifically for conquest. Trying to make a new game mode work on existing maps is really tough because options are so limited. Not to say it’s impossible, but I believe creating a map for a specific game mode really makes it fun to play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH6pVBl7zUs

you are so proud of this kitten map that everyone hates yet you can’t fix 4v5…no ready button, nothing…i am guess ready button would be too “boring” right?

i just had 3 matches in a row of 4v5….YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THIS IS FUN???? i feel like i am being ridiculed here… are you trying to make ppl quit your game?

remove a certain map beginning with the letter S
add a certain mode containing the letters T, D and M

New game mode = new maps ofc!!

Hope they can be used for conquest too though..

Phaeton.9582:

Hope they can be used for conquest too though..

HELL NOOOOOO

Cynz.9437:

you are so proud of this kitten map that everyone hates yet you can’t fix 4v5…no ready button, nothing…i am guess ready button would be too “boring” right?

i just had 3 matches in a row of 4v5….YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THIS IS FUN???? i feel like i am being ridiculed here… are you trying to make ppl quit your game?

And may I know what would you do about it ?
I know it IS NOT FUN but there is not much you could do about it. Some ppl may angry-leave, some have to go afk and some got disconnected.
Even if you would make some option for match search like “allow join as a substitute” for ongoing match, you still don’t know if that disconnected player would come back – it’s ‘his’ match and his team after all…

This is not just a problem in Guild Wars 2, but in many other online games – like DOTA. I don’t remember game ending 5v5! (truth is I don’t play that much, but still). Even in a game like Sim City it’s not pleasing when someone claims city in your region, makes a mess and never show up again.

Chlupac.4936:

Cynz.9437:

you are so proud of this kitten map that everyone hates yet you can’t fix 4v5…no ready button, nothing…i am guess ready button would be too “boring” right?

i just had 3 matches in a row of 4v5….YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THIS IS FUN???? i feel like i am being ridiculed here… are you trying to make ppl quit your game?

And may I know what would you do about it ?
I know it IS NOT FUN but there is not much you could do about it. Some ppl may angry-leave, some have to go afk and some got disconnected.
Even if you would make some option for match search like “allow join as a substitute” for ongoing match, you still don’t know if that disconnected player would come back – it’s ‘his’ match and his team after all…

This is not just a problem in Guild Wars 2, but in many other online games – like DOTA. I don’t remember game ending 5v5! (truth is I don’t play that much, but still). Even in a game like Sim City it’s not pleasing when someone claims city in your region, makes a mess and never show up again.

Legaue has ready button, unless 10 ppl hit ready match doesn’t start. There are still trolls and ppl who go afk but they get punished hard with banns that make them unable to play at all. Punishment in GW2 is a joke in comparison.

As far as skyhammer goes, that kitten needs to be removed from soloq.

Gallrvaghn.4921:

Phaeton.9582:

Hope they can be used for conquest too though..

HELL NOOOOOO

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Adaptable maps that vary depending on game mode is pretty standard for multiplayer games….

Evan Lesh.3295:

Why not both? New game mode on a new map.

The wildcard has modes and now is the advantage. I know it takes time away from current developments, but if this can be coded faster for a public hotjoin test server I think it would be beneficial as it extends to the entire player base and not just the portion of mutual participants currently exploiting the conquest mode.

New mode, I don’t care about new maps.
I just want a death match type of game on all maps instead of capturing points.
Still any new mode would be refreshing.

Evan Lesh.3295:

We’ve shown our prototype maps already for new game modes. Our current maps really are designed specifically for conquest. Trying to make a new game mode work on existing maps is really tough because options are so limited. Not to say it’s impossible, but I believe creating a map for a specific game mode really makes it fun to play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH6pVBl7zUs

Understandable, Mr.Lesh, but I would like you to elaborate if you can:

(1) Have you considered the option of taking specific parts from current maps and implementing new game modes into them?
Clocktower in Kyhlo, for example, would be a fine 2v2 arena with unbreakable windows. 2v2 streamers out there are already using Graveyard in Foefire, the beach are in Niflhel as their arena.

(2) If these new maps are tied to new game modes, how do you plan to make them work with the flow of hotjoin and/or rated-matches, which are entirely conquest maps?

(3) We now have 6 maps for SoloQ(counting Spirit Watch & Skyhammer) and 4 maps for TeamQ, each of them has an distinct secondary mechanic to complement the conquest theme. Will the new game modes be able to meet the same quantity and diversity?

(updated the votes. Voted for new map myself)

Evan with whole respect stop talking and showing us stuff and start doing smt

Forsaker.9213:

Evan with whole respect stop talking and showing us stuff and start doing smt

Even if you say you would want to be respected I think you are very disrespectfull.
You actually think the Program teams, Edit teams, Voice actors, sound teams and a whole lot of other teams as they mentioned at the stream. Do you actually think that they only sit on their butt doing nothing when Lesh is trying to communicate and please the community with answers to our questions?

After he has done this do you think he is trapped in that recorded stream and just talks and talks and show us the same powerpoint over and over again?
They both showed us how long time it takes to make a map and how complex it is to make it work and even when it is released they are not perfect so how in the world would you expect them to just crap out maps and gamemodes?

Actually I think some new game modes are long overdue but as seeing that stream I am confident in Anet that in the future we will se new game modes and probably this year.

what we got after over year??
-broken leeder
-broken soloq via bad match making
-worse and worse balance every patch

So yeah as a guy who play only pvp i have the right to be frustrated.

New map, with objectives similar to Temple of the silent storms. I dont think a new game mode would bring anything good to the game. It sounds exciting at all and “everyone” wants it, but I honestly think it would be a fail.

Anyway, for now I personally wouldn’t want either. I’d like seasons, ladder, tournaments, visible rating first and then talk about new maps and game modes.

Evan Lesh.3295:

We’ve shown our prototype maps already for new game modes. Our current maps really are designed specifically for conquest. Trying to make a new game mode work on existing maps is really tough because options are so limited. Not to say it’s impossible, but I believe creating a map for a specific game mode really makes it fun to play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH6pVBl7zUs

Please,have kurzick – luxons in mind as a stand alone game mode,doesnt even have to be in HotM.. It was one of the most fun pvp things to do as end content in gw1.

New game mode mos def.
A simple deathmatch maybe? A 3vs3, 2vs2 would be cool

new gamemode, the GW2 version of conquest is not at all engaging.

would be great if you could also remove downed state from PVP or at least make it optional.

I would like to have what you guys had back in gw1. Like random arena ! A quick 4vs4 death match. The victorious team carrys on playing until they get beaten by another random team. I would really really want this to happen in gw2.

Many thanks Anet. Hope you can see this.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Chopping up maps for smaller team fights is an option. The water in Spirit Watch or the center point in Foefire are examples where players already do this with custom arenas. However, unless we needed 6 TDM maps ‘RIGHT NAOW’, we would still prefer to make a new polished experience and let players with customs arenas keep doing what they already have been.

I am fairly certain a lot of players wouldn’t mind having these “chopped up” TDM maps – no more conquest pls

^Yes, very much sir Even, I couldn’t care less about a PvP map, as long as theres new modes, me… and my guild, would be happy.

New game mode please. I would prefer something like a 3v3 king of the hill…

We already have plenty of maps for conquest. Don’t even get me started on skyhammer…

And it’s very possible to “chop” maps up into smaller bits to make them playable for game types that need smaller maps. For example you could totally remove access to the side points on foefire and make graveyard and the entrances in front of the base the only accessible areas and it’d be perfect for TDM.

Really looking forward to what the devs have in store for us! I’m guessing two new game modes by April, four new maps!

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game mode for gods sake!

After Skyhammer and Spiritwatch, definitely new gamemode. Anyway, if the development keeps the same pace it will mabye arrive in gw3 I guess

Evan Lesh.3295:

Chopping up maps for smaller team fights is an option. The water in Spirit Watch or the center point in Foefire are examples where players already do this with custom arenas. However, unless we needed 6 TDM maps ‘RIGHT NAOW’, we would still prefer to make a new polished experience and let players with customs arenas keep doing what they already have been.

Think we all would rather new map with new game mode, only been how long. Sorry but it’s taking far to long to come out with new game mode and map… Rather stupid how long.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Nabbo.2845:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Chopping up maps for smaller team fights is an option. The water in Spirit Watch or the center point in Foefire are examples where players already do this with custom arenas. However, unless we needed 6 TDM maps ‘RIGHT NAOW’, we would still prefer to make a new polished experience and let players with customs arenas keep doing what they already have been.

I am fairly certain a lot of players wouldn’t mind having these “chopped up” TDM maps – no more conquest pls

It seems like people really want (and want we also want) is a way to officially support new games modes combined with our current queues regardless of what the new map is.

I highly doubt that people will want to be playing TDM on a chopped up version of one of the existing maps,i know i don’t..They/We want complete New maps and new gamemodes.Chopping up current maps into bits and pieces for TDM wil interest players for a week or 2 before moving on again.

100% underwater map here we come~

Forsaker.9213:

what we got after over year??
-broken leeder
-broken soloq via bad match making
-worse and worse balance every patch

So yeah as a guy who play only pvp i have the right to be frustrated.

Indeed. Especially when they claim this game to be Triple-A. Biggest joke in history of gaming. Blizzard is definitely laughing at you for ruining your own Company-name with a product , that is, compared to its predecessor, a shame for having the same Name.

• 2 New mode AND Stronghold/Encampment.

I like the look of the Stronghold and Encampment maps quite a lot. Gimme!

If new maps are coming, it would be neat if you could make points of interest accessible through more than a few routes, so it doesn’t invite zergs.

Kyhlo, Niflhel and Silent Storm being my favorite maps so far, because of the different levels and paths you can move on.

Evan Lesh.3295:

It seems like people really want (and want we also want) is a way to officially support new games modes combined with our current queues regardless of what the new map is.

If not a chopped map with a system to support a new mode would open beta weekends leading up to the new modes/maps release date be a possibility?

i vote for new game mode in a new map.

Well this is not a thread I expected would receive a red reply. What’s the secret ingredient? An easy fallacy to slap down? Short and easy to read? We must know!

Personally I wonder if it would be possible for users to make simple map mods by placing doodads, spawn points and specifying objectives. Think Halo 3 onwards with its Forge.

Also I would like both more game types and more maps but if I have to pick one, modify the standing maps to fit new gametypes.

A real GvG map…nuff said.

Between the two, I would vote for new game mode.

But a new game mode on a new map would be great too.

I personally have always liked conquest thou but more variety is always good.

(3) New game, please. One with an actual pvp side to it, I mean.