Guild Wars 2

Did they not remove the Quick Stomp in PvP?
Have they taken it back for some reason, run into alot of quickstompers in PvP.

Tried myself to see if i could get my Thief to QuickStomp, but no success.

Haven’t run into it, but there’s still the issue that thieves can stomp from stealth which is just unneccessarily overpowered

When timed right a thief can stomp near instantly with the Daredevil elite skill chain (Impact strike> Upper Cut> Finishing Blow). As it is a skillbar effect, quickness effects it too. As said, it has to be near perfect timing for a quick stomp, or with quickness applied.

Any profession that can apply stealth (or gain it from others for that matter) can stomp from stealth.

Haleydawn.3764:

When timed right a thief can stomp near instantly with the Daredevil elite skill chain (Impact strike> Upper Cut> Finishing Blow). As it is a skillbar effect, quickness effects it too. As said, it has to be near perfect timing for a quick stomp, or with quickness applied.

Any profession that can apply stealth (or gain it from others for that matter) can stomp from stealth.

yea, but thieves appear to do it the most, I don’t see a lot of other classes use stealth much in pvp. the problem just is, as a warrior you can knock an enemy down and interupt their stomp, but it only works if you can target them. the guardian can do a pulse that knocks everyone back without the need of targetting

Mesmer almost uses as much stealth as a thief. I was mostly playing mesmer these days and you can be invisible for a while. Also ranger longbow skill 3 gives you stealth which I almost always use before stomping.

Pretty sure it actually is a thing. Had a game today and lord got stomped within 0.5 sec after down by thief. Not sure about regular stomp however.

Antonio.1387:

Pretty sure it actually is a thing. Had a game today and lord got stomped within 0.5 sec after down by thief. Not sure about regular stomp however.

Sounds like thief’s finishing blow.

well if you’re talking about stomping with quickness, I think they updated to where quickness no longer affects stomp speed. tried it with engi, rev, war, and thief, all the same speed from my tests.

Amaimon.7823:

Haven’t run into it, but there’s still the issue that thieves can stomp from stealth which is just unneccessarily overpowered

Bahahaha this is OP? when there are people that can Stomp while under Stability, Stomp while Invuln, not even be near you and stomp you. But Stealth which the Thief can still be Cc’d and Thief isn’t the only class that can Stealth Stomp and the other classes have access to Stability while being able to stealth Stomp, it’s not game breaking or OP, it’s a form of actual Strategic/tactic gameplay.

I think they should remove the downstate completely in PvP it’s a crutch that was designed for PvE.

Omg the complaints on these forums are so funny.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Amaimon.7823:

Haven’t run into it, but there’s still the issue that thieves can stomp from stealth which is just unneccessarily overpowered

Bahahaha this is OP? when there are people that can Stomp while under Stability, Stomp while Invuln, not even be near you and stomp you. But Stealth which the Thief can still be Cc’d and Thief isn’t the only class that can Stealth Stomp and the other classes have access to Stability while being able to stealth Stomp, it’s not game breaking or OP, it’s a form of actual Strategic/tactic gameplay.

I think they should remove the downstate completely in PvP it’s a crutch that was designed for PvE.

Omg the complaints on these forums are so funny.

Haven’t you heard? Everything about thief is OP this season. AA damage, shadow shot, head shot spam, evade spam, condi spam, staff spam, now stealth stomping…

Moonsinn.5382:

Antonio.1387:

Pretty sure it actually is a thing. Had a game today and lord got stomped within 0.5 sec after down by thief. Not sure about regular stomp however.

Sounds like thief’s finishing blow.

Hmm now I look up it sounds right. Probably with quickness and make the stomp go super fast.

Antonio.1387:

Moonsinn.5382:

Antonio.1387:

Pretty sure it actually is a thing. Had a game today and lord got stomped within 0.5 sec after down by thief. Not sure about regular stomp however.

Sounds like thief’s finishing blow.

Hmm now I look up it sounds right. Probably with quickness and make the stomp go super fast.

If timed right with the first two hits and the last one finishes them as soon as hey go down.

quickness works on impact strike.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Antonio.1387:

Moonsinn.5382:

Antonio.1387:

Pretty sure it actually is a thing. Had a game today and lord got stomped within 0.5 sec after down by thief. Not sure about regular stomp however.

Sounds like thief’s finishing blow.

Hmm now I look up it sounds right. Probably with quickness and make the stomp go super fast.

If timed right with the first two hits and the last one finishes them as soon as hey go down.

This. If the last hit from the daredevil elite chain takes the remainder of your regular health bar, downstate gets skipped entirely and you go straight to defeated. Most daredevils using it generally prefer to wait until someone is downed rather than gambling on pulling that off, though.

(Incidentally, from what I recall of prerelease stuff, downed state was actually intended more for PvP than PvE.)

draxynnic.3719:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Antonio.1387:

Moonsinn.5382:

Antonio.1387:

Pretty sure it actually is a thing. Had a game today and lord got stomped within 0.5 sec after down by thief. Not sure about regular stomp however.

Sounds like thief’s finishing blow.

Hmm now I look up it sounds right. Probably with quickness and make the stomp go super fast.

If timed right with the first two hits and the last one finishes them as soon as hey go down.

This. If the last hit from the daredevil elite chain takes the remainder of your regular health bar, downstate gets skipped entirely and you go straight to defeated. Most daredevils using it generally prefer to wait until someone is downed rather than gambling on pulling that off, though.

(Incidentally, from what I recall of prerelease stuff, downed state was actually intended more for PvP than PvE.)

Sidetracking from the mechanics; Although the daredevil elite chain is pretty underused (probably only staff thief will take the elite), I don’t think temper with downstate mechanics with any skill is a good idea considering res is a huge part of the current gameplay. Timing stealth for res would be impossible (and the skill description sounds like it will stomp through stealth too.)

In any case, anet has lots of other balancing issues to take care of and this is not one of them.

Antonio.1387:

draxynnic.3719:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Antonio.1387:

Moonsinn.5382:

Antonio.1387:

Pretty sure it actually is a thing. Had a game today and lord got stomped within 0.5 sec after down by thief. Not sure about regular stomp however.

Sounds like thief’s finishing blow.

Hmm now I look up it sounds right. Probably with quickness and make the stomp go super fast.

If timed right with the first two hits and the last one finishes them as soon as hey go down.

This. If the last hit from the daredevil elite chain takes the remainder of your regular health bar, downstate gets skipped entirely and you go straight to defeated. Most daredevils using it generally prefer to wait until someone is downed rather than gambling on pulling that off, though.

(Incidentally, from what I recall of prerelease stuff, downed state was actually intended more for PvP than PvE.)

Sidetracking from the mechanics; Although the daredevil elite chain is pretty underused (probably only staff thief will take the elite), I don’t think temper with downstate mechanics with any skill is a good idea considering res is a huge part of the current gameplay. Timing stealth for res would be impossible (and the skill description sounds like it will stomp through stealth too.)

In any case, anet has lots of other balancing issues to take care of and this is not one of them.

If they Stealth the Stomp misses.you have to have a target

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Antonio.1387:

draxynnic.3719:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Antonio.1387:

Moonsinn.5382:

Antonio.1387:

Pretty sure it actually is a thing. Had a game today and lord got stomped within 0.5 sec after down by thief. Not sure about regular stomp however.

Sounds like thief’s finishing blow.

Hmm now I look up it sounds right. Probably with quickness and make the stomp go super fast.

If timed right with the first two hits and the last one finishes them as soon as hey go down.

This. If the last hit from the daredevil elite chain takes the remainder of your regular health bar, downstate gets skipped entirely and you go straight to defeated. Most daredevils using it generally prefer to wait until someone is downed rather than gambling on pulling that off, though.

(Incidentally, from what I recall of prerelease stuff, downed state was actually intended more for PvP than PvE.)

Sidetracking from the mechanics; Although the daredevil elite chain is pretty underused (probably only staff thief will take the elite), I don’t think temper with downstate mechanics with any skill is a good idea considering res is a huge part of the current gameplay. Timing stealth for res would be impossible (and the skill description sounds like it will stomp through stealth too.)

In any case, anet has lots of other balancing issues to take care of and this is not one of them.

If they Stealth the Stomp misses.you have to have a target

Good to know. Now anet needs to make lord stop attacking when down like my bronze teammates

Antonio.1387:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Antonio.1387:

draxynnic.3719:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Antonio.1387:

Moonsinn.5382:

Antonio.1387:

Pretty sure it actually is a thing. Had a game today and lord got stomped within 0.5 sec after down by thief. Not sure about regular stomp however.

Sounds like thief’s finishing blow.

Hmm now I look up it sounds right. Probably with quickness and make the stomp go super fast.

If timed right with the first two hits and the last one finishes them as soon as hey go down.

This. If the last hit from the daredevil elite chain takes the remainder of your regular health bar, downstate gets skipped entirely and you go straight to defeated. Most daredevils using it generally prefer to wait until someone is downed rather than gambling on pulling that off, though.

(Incidentally, from what I recall of prerelease stuff, downed state was actually intended more for PvP than PvE.)

Sidetracking from the mechanics; Although the daredevil elite chain is pretty underused (probably only staff thief will take the elite), I don’t think temper with downstate mechanics with any skill is a good idea considering res is a huge part of the current gameplay. Timing stealth for res would be impossible (and the skill description sounds like it will stomp through stealth too.)

In any case, anet has lots of other balancing issues to take care of and this is not one of them.

If they Stealth the Stomp misses.you have to have a target

Good to know. Now anet needs to make lord stop attacking when down like my bronze teammates

Lmao, so true.

Amaimon.7823:

yea, but thieves appear to do it the most, I don’t see a lot of other classes use stealth much in pvp.

Druids res and stomp while being invisible from their astral force, also they juke a lot with it. Same goes for scrappers and their sneak gyro. So the top resbots in the game use stealth on a regular base.

Is this also overpowered?

And breaking news: being invisible does not make you invulnerable (or immune to cc).

Funny how thief is allowed to use an elite to stomp (as well as other professions use stab, stealth, cc’s etc.) But Mesmers aren’t. (Timewarp)

This is what ANet calls ‘balance’.

SlimChance.6593:

Funny how thief is allowed to use an elite to stomp (as well as other professions use stab, stealth, cc’s etc.) But Mesmers aren’t. (Timewarp)

This is what ANet calls ‘balance’.

Funny how ALMOST every other profession got instant revive spell (Warriors Battle Standard etc etc) but thief is the one that doesnt.

SlimChance.6593:

Funny how thief is allowed to use an elite to stomp (as well as other professions use stab, stealth, cc’s etc.) But Mesmers aren’t. (Timewarp)

This is what ANet calls ‘balance’.

What the hell are you talking about ? don’t you have distortion on demand to safe stomp ? It’s more broken than impact strike, which is a telegraphed 3 parts stomp. Impact strike can be interrupted, blinded, countered by stealth, launch, pull. Tell me how you counter a distortion stomp except fast rez ?

Wargameur.6950:

SlimChance.6593:

Funny how thief is allowed to use an elite to stomp (as well as other professions use stab, stealth, cc’s etc.) But Mesmers aren’t. (Timewarp)

This is what ANet calls ‘balance’.

What the hell are you talking about ? don’t you have distortion on demand to safe stomp ? It’s more broken than impact strike, which is a telegraphed 3 parts stomp. Impact strike can be interrupted, blinded, countered by stealth, launch, pull. Tell me how you counter a distortion stomp except fast rez ?

Stealth, or Ranger down pull. Necro too for that matter (move the target away from the stomper).

With how bullkitten res speed (still) is, you need a free invuln stomp just to kill any downs. Even then, that res speed > invuln stomp XD

Amaimon.7823:

Haven’t run into it, but there’s still the issue that thieves can stomp from stealth which is just unneccessarily overpowered

You do realize you can get interrupted while stealth stomping right?

Apart from that:

-Druid can stealth stomp
-Mesmer can stealth stomp
-Engi can stealth stomp

- Pretty much anything can stealth stomp. The ones I’ve listed above are the ones with acces to stealth themselves.

- Stop the QQ’ing about thieves, they’re fine.

-No, I don’t main thief. I main Druid. And I eat thieves for breakfast. And I wouldn’t like to eat them for lunch and dinner as well, after they got nerved in to the ground.

Scykosix.7836:

SlimChance.6593:

Funny how thief is allowed to use an elite to stomp (as well as other professions use stab, stealth, cc’s etc.) But Mesmers aren’t. (Timewarp)

This is what ANet calls ‘balance’.

Funny how ALMOST every other profession got instant revive spell (Warriors Battle Standard etc etc) but thief is the one that doesnt.

True. That’s why they need to get rid of insta revive/stomp spell like how they remove quickness stomp/res before. Having such mechanics will just hurt the whole res/downstate mechanics in PvP eventually if not already undermining the legacy balancing.

or at the very least, remove quickness effect on those spells.