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Posted by: Acandis.3250

Acandis.3250

Yay after 27 months we finally have a queue pop alert! Nice but still not really all that useful.

//SERIOUS FEEDBACK
Things to modify:

  • Queue pop sound needs to be ungated. Eg: it should make a sound even if <UI Volume> is set to 0 or <Mute when GW2 is in the background> is checked. Only exception should be if <Master Volume> is set to 0.
  • If you are AFK during the ready check, you should be booted from the queue. Currently, people that are AFK for the ready check, keep getting placed back into the same queue, so it keeps checking to see if the same people are AFK over and over again, rather than just grabbing new players from the queue. This is making for absurdley long queue times.
  • If I click cancel, I should NOT get dishonor. Seriously, what’s the point of dishonoring someone because something came up and they had to leave before the game even started? Sorry, if we were sitting in queue for 15-20 minutes, something came up, and we have to leave. I’d rather click cancel and not screw over my teammates.

//OPTIONAL READTHROUGH
To expand on the above, picture the following scenario:

BillyBkpk has just gotten back from his really tough day in high school and he wants to destress by dumpstering some nerds on GW2. He decides to play some <Ranked Arena> and is promptly placed in ranked queue. As he’s sitting there “twiddling his thumbs” for 15-20 minutes, he realizes he’s hungry so he decides to go down to the 7th story of his mansion to check the fridge. Note: In reality, BillyBkpk—a young neckbeard padawan—would just yell at his mom to bring him some food, but I digress.

While he’s in the kitchen, his queue pops. He’s unaware of this, even with his Bluetooth headset on, because he has <UI Volume> set to 0; who wants to hear an annoying ping every time we get whisper spammed by gold sellers? Anywho, instead of kicking BillyBkpk out of the queue, the system decides to leave him in the queue, because maybe, just maybe he’ll come back really soon… So at most 9 others keep sitting in the same recycled queue, waiting on one person to get back from his AFK adventures. BillyBkpk can be AFK for hours, and as long as his computer doesn’t shut down, or he doesn’t get disconnected from the game, he will remain in queue, letting the game system troll those poor other 9 souls just waiting to get a game going.

Additionally, these 9 people can’t leave their queue to join another one, because they’ll get dishonored if they do so.

So please, ANet, do what’s right, make these necessary changes to make Tyria a better place.

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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

I agree mostly with these.
There should be an option to make the pop sound ungated.
For the queue pop, if you click cancel, you should not get dishonor. The whole point of the ready check is to prevent 4v5s etc. Dishonor’s job is to punish people who say they are ready and actually aren’t after the ready check. The ready check is not the place for dishonor.
A potentially useful idea would be if someone goes offline during the pre-game when everyone is loaded into the map, then everyone is put back in the mists and back into the queue, and then that person who quit gets dishonor.
This would allow a secondary stage to prevent 4v5s if someone needs to quit and they are willing to take some dishonor. This would also allow people to dodge if the team comps are too horrible or if people are being uncooperative (after all this is a team game like anet said). The downside to this is you might get more dodging, but might be worth a try. – This is actually what dota 2 does if I remember correctly.

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Posted by: Chase.8415

Chase.8415

Never had a queue last longer than 5 minutes, if it goes past 5 I abandon queue and rejoin and it’s near instant then. Sometimes the queue bugs.

In regards to a queue taking to long and you decide to cancel, in that situation he or she should have planned their time better as most games can take up to 15 minutes of your time.

The players that run into this issue where they don’t hear the sound will correct it themselves after they get dishonorable.

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

Cancel means dishonor? That is not good. Cancel should be free

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Posted by: Aeroxe.8140

Aeroxe.8140

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm who is this billybkpk he sounds like esports

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Posted by: Evan Lesh

Evan Lesh

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People staying in queue after not accepting a queue pop sounds like a bug.
You must get dishonor for declining a match or else will troll the queue constantly. Do you know how the new dishonor system works? It isn’t nearly as harsh as the old system for small offences.

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Posted by: Backpack.8517

Backpack.8517

he realizes he’s hungry so he decides to go down to the 7th story of his mansion to check the fridge. Note: In reality, BillyBkpk—a young neckbeard padawan—would just yell at his mom to bring him some food, but I digress.

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Posted by: tichorum.2415

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  • If I click cancel, I should NOT get dishonor. Seriously, what’s the point of dishonoring someone because something came up and they had to leave before the game even started? Sorry, if we were sitting in queue for 15-20 minutes, something came up, and we have to leave. I’d rather click cancel and not screw over my teammates.

I think you should get dishonor. GW2’s playerbase is small enough to where you get continuously get the same troll in your queue over and over again. Dishonor changed a lot so it’s a fairly small amount. To the normal player that has something pop up and leaves the queue, by the time you’re back your dishonor will be gone. But for the trolls, if they repetitively decline it will rapidly add up. It won’t be an issue.

I do agree with your other points you made, though.

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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

That’s a fair point tichorum. I was trying to envision having enough players with the new system where population would no be a problem. But indeed you do get a lot of the same people in gw2. The trolls would have a bigger impact among less players.

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