Guild Wars 2

I would be absolutely fine getting kicked out of queue if on a loading screen.

What about a pop-up message?

“You are about to change instance. If you continue your queueing will reset.”

“Stay in the world / Enter”

If they changed it to que in the world so I could potter around doing map completion my life would be complete.

I’d really appreciate having the mystic forge and crafting stations in HoTM if we’re to be sitting in there for long enough. The map we have is pretty big and has a lot of potential for expansion within it. Tutorial island still exists and there’s still a way to get there.

Tutorial island is complete underutilized space as well as a lot of other underutilized space within HoTM. Let’s expand on the options for what we can do in it to keep us busy during ques.

Aggrostemma.1703:

I would be absolutely fine getting kicked out of queue if on a loading screen.

What about a pop-up message?

“You are about to change instance. If you continue your queueing will reset.”

“Stay in the world / Enter”

Yeah there are so many way to fix this and they act liek there is none

There’s a HUGE area (many considered out of area) in HotM where we can reach Anet’s logo emblem. This area could be a jumping puzzle, Free For All Dueling, playing tag with an endless horde of Zombie Chieftans. The possibilities are endless!

There’s a plethora of ideas we can add to HotM so we have something to do while waiting for queue.

Aggrostemma.1703:

I would be absolutely fine getting kicked out of queue if on a loading screen.

What about a pop-up message?

“You are about to change instance. If you continue your queueing will reset.”

“Stay in the world / Enter”

so long as i dont get kicked when waypointing from death

zxstanyxz.8769:

Aggrostemma.1703:

I would be absolutely fine getting kicked out of queue if on a loading screen.

What about a pop-up message?

“You are about to change instance. If you continue your queueing will reset.”

“Stay in the world / Enter”

so long as i dont get kicked when waypointing from death

Surely this is why there is about 1.5mins wait time in the starting area of a sPVP map… that’s Plenty of time to wait out a loading screen.
Not being able to queue while in the Open world is a massive technological failure of GW2. The fact it hasn’t been sorted out speaks volumes to the flexibility of the base code in this game – unless it’s an actual design decision… but I can’t imagine that.

Dirtyrascal.1023:

zxstanyxz.8769:

Aggrostemma.1703:

I would be absolutely fine getting kicked out of queue if on a loading screen.

What about a pop-up message?

“You are about to change instance. If you continue your queueing will reset.”

“Stay in the world / Enter”

so long as i dont get kicked when waypointing from death

Surely this is why there is about 1.5mins wait time in the starting area of a sPVP map… that’s Plenty of time to wait out a loading screen.
Not being able to queue while in the Open world is a massive technological failure of GW2. The fact it hasn’t been sorted out speaks volumes to the flexibility of the base code in this game – unless it’s an actual design decision… but I can’t imagine that.

it is a game design decision as they originally had it setup that you could queue from anywhere, their reasoning being that people would abandon queue pops more often due to whatever event they were currently involved in being nearly done (boss kill, etc) and not wanting to lose the rewards from that. the other issue being that some peoples load screens are too long that the queue could pop and be abandoned all whilst a load screen was up. as such they trapped us in HOTM, and then proceeded to remove the mystic forge and other things to do…

Evan Lesh.3295:

gacob.1759:

Why not a pause system for the load screen?

I think everyone agrees on how this should be implemented. Either queue is paused during load screens, or you’re kicked from queue on load screens. I agree with this.

What I was mentioning earlier is that there are under-appreciated technical hurdles to implementing this that make it non-trivial.

As much as it is a non-trival problem, you just can’t expect the PvP community to survive or thrive without this problem solved.

Anybody with a head can understand that being completely locked out of a game you’re playing for 20 minutes to an hour is absolutely absurd.

It is extremely disheartening to see that most of my friends in the pvp community are stuck in heart of the mist waiting in queue. A question I keep asking myself is why continue to wait in queue when I can just log off and play The Division or any other game right now.

If all the PvP related problems in this game are prioritized by how much value the fixes will bring to the lifespan of the game and the profit this game can make, how is this issue not the absolute #1 priority issue to be fixed or hot-fixed?

On the topic of possible solutions, it really does seem that a pause to queue during map load ins can be the fix we’re looking for until a more suitable solution is found.

Please Evan, keep rallying your programming team to ship a solution to this problem and keep us updated on what solutions are being worked on at the moment. The PvP community is growing impatient with not being able to PLAY the game.

I support this. Should have been done long ago.

Apparently there’s technical difficulties anet isn’t willing to work on, so queuing outside of mistanamo might never be possible again.

That said, how complicated is it to add a free for all zone where everyone can fight everyone ?

I would never stop playing this game if I could queue from outside the mists.

not even playing much pvp atm …
but i can feel with active PvPers … Anet give them some love

also… i want to watch PvPers streaming PvE for 90% of their time haha

15charsssssssss

The ol’ tutorial area is perfect for a sanctum-like waiting zone or smth like this……….

Yes there should be a dueling area in the lobby if we don’t get to queue from outside of it.
Or a minigame.

This isn’t too hard of a change and it would really up the pvp experience.

So the devs ignore this problem for such a long time already? Awesome…

I guess they don’t want players in their game after all, forcing them to get sick and tired of huge queue times in an zone where there is nothing to do…

A strawpoll link is 1738 to 219 at the time of this post—extrapolate that to the player base. Is there even a dev response in this thread? what a shame

Evan Lesh.3295:

There were a few reasons for keeping players in HotM when queued:

• It forces new players to recognize they have completely different builds in PvP maps.
• You won’t miss the match accept because of load screens and get dishonor.
• We can make a better user experience (match accept and map voting) without having to worry about interrupting whatever a player might be doing elsewhere.

In order to allow queuing from outside HotM, we would need to change these things.

• We would need tech to remove players temporarily from queue during load screens.
• Create better tutorials or gating for new players so they don’t hop into PvP unprepared.
• Revisit the way the match flow UI works.

Was this typed with a straight face? Wooooooow!!

Alternatively you could just let people assume the risk of dishonor—which shouldnt have too much of an impact since they are in pve to begin with….

better tutorials!!! bwahaha

GET US QUEUEING FROM OUTSIDE THE HOTM!!!!!!!!!!!!

jason.2043:

Evan Lesh.3295:

There were a few reasons for keeping players in HotM when queued:

• It forces new players to recognize they have completely different builds in PvP maps.
• You won’t miss the match accept because of load screens and get dishonor.
• We can make a better user experience (match accept and map voting) without having to worry about interrupting whatever a player might be doing elsewhere.

In order to allow queuing from outside HotM, we would need to change these things.

• We would need tech to remove players temporarily from queue during load screens.
• Create better tutorials or gating for new players so they don’t hop into PvP unprepared.
• Revisit the way the match flow UI works.

Was this typed with a straight face? Wooooooow!!

Alternatively you could just let people assume the risk of dishonor—which shouldnt have too much of an impact since they are in pve to begin with….

better tutorials!!! bwahaha

And that is why we don’t let people on forums influence GW2.

It’s all very clearly indicates that Arena.net do not care about all this…

and it is so sad we cant explore the world during q time. Also it’s ‘very interesting’ to watch pvp streams where ppl jump around hotm for 15 min loosing the audience

Is there a reason not to add crafting and a forge ?

Entering Q from PvE (NOT WvW) side would solve a lot. But i won´t allow it in Instances like dungeons, fractals, raids …. This can cause grief to others. For new players it´s easy: You can only do it after the initial matches that allow you to play ranked. So they should know what happens.
Screen lost problem? Remove a player from Q if he zones. People will learn this. they still can craft, collect, run around for Map completion …
Tutorial? Also no issue if you can´t use the option from begnning.

I would love to be able to craft stuff (so I can prepare for WvW) and duel to practise while waiting or just for the fun of it.

I guess I should chime in here, if you are going to allow queue’s upwards of an hour to exist regardless of the situation… then you must give me something worthwhile to do during that hour and being able to do it should be obvious.

The current system doesn’t put much value to my limited free time now does it.

Wolfric.9380:

Is there a reason not to add crafting and a forge ?

Entering Q from PvE (NOT WvW) side would solve a lot. But i won´t allow it in Instances like dungeons, fractals, raids …. This can cause grief to others. For new players it´s easy: You can only do it after the initial matches that allow you to play ranked. So they should know what happens.
Screen lost problem? Remove a player from Q if he zones. People will learn this. they still can craft, collect, run around for Map completion …
Tutorial? Also no issue if you can´t use the option from begnning.

There was a forge in HotM but it was removed. For a reason. It’s the same reason crafting stations haven’t been added.

Evan! Please tell us this hasn’t been forgotten!

crafting stations would be awesome

Or just anything in general instead of memorizing every square inch of HoTM. Really, if people could duel while they wait, people would understand the mechanics and enjoy the game more. Especially those pve players who find it pointless to stand around for 10+ minutes when they could have made tons of gold in that time.

~To remedy the decreasing population, we need to have more things to do~

Otherwise it will continue to get smaller until there isn’t a population at all

People should at least be allowed to join arenas while Qing , it would let pvper’s practice and have fun while waiting for the regular huge Q times.
Waiting an average 15 min for a Q isn’t cool but I guess that anet can’t do much about it cause of the low amount of players playing pvp, however, I believe that they can make those 15 min more “enjoyable”.

With that being said, hope ANET will take a closer look at this pvp scene cause this is getting worst. Sooner or later no one will want to Q cause no one plays video games to get bored.

I’m really curious as to why they don’t at least reextend queing to custom arenas…

There could be an adventure in the lobby? With some PvP elements?

Ive asked for a really long time for some kind of gambling arena. So i would like to propose a gambling slot machine. You use spirit shards to play and you can get various random items.

Ive suggested many different gambling items such as cards from unique bosses like the Undead Gorilla King and Megalodon. Like a random drop, it would give meaning to killing these really hard champions which 99% of people skip. And a mini card game that could be played in the Guild Halls, i got no response.

The PvP shards are insanely useless and im sitting on around 3k. Let me gamble them please at a casino like machine that will give me 20 mystic coins and 2 t3 crafting bag for them. So i can be like woohoo i hit the jack pot, what you get? 3 rytlocks baby

WE DID IT!

“Before I forget, you can also now queue for structured PvP without having to be in the Heart of the Mists – hallelujah!”

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MNUJX6clARAJ:https://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/guild-wars-2-hands-on-with-living-world-season-3+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Awesome, thanks for adding this.

Evan Lesh.3295:

This has not been forgotten.

Now we are FREE!

Thank you!

WOOOOO!!
I think I’m going to cry.

What is supposed to do this function when I am still AFTER the match in the PVP Lobby?

A big thank you for this one. It was quite awesome to be able to do other things while waiting on a queue. Guild mates joked me about actually working on map collection and gathering. +100 here. Cheers!

Magira.6390:

What is supposed to do this function when I am still AFTER the match in the PVP Lobby?

did you queue from the lobby? because every time i’ve been returned back to where i was when the queue popped

From WvW. Near my Cata.^^

You weren’t able to enter the PvP lobby and then exit back into WvW before. This isn’t new. This function does work elsewhere.

Like I said queuing outside of Heart of the Mist is awesome. So thank you Anet for implementing it.

The only qualm I have is there is currently no way to update my pvp build while I’m outside of HotM. If there was a way that anet could implement this that would be awesome.

Cheers

Its nice that it retains your traits, runes and sigils. But how hard would it be to retain your weapons? Isn’t that part of your build?

I know we’ve been asking for templates since forever…..

ANet! Thank You!

This is a huge improvement, thank you for hearing us and taking the time to make this possible. Also, thank you for improving the ready up UI and adding feature for us to stay in party. This is a big boon for competitive soloers.

Power.2957:

WE DID IT!

“Before I forget, you can also now queue for structured PvP without having to be in the Heart of the Mists – hallelujah!”

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MNUJX6clARAJ:https://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/guild-wars-2-hands-on-with-living-world-season-3+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

While I am giving a big thumbs up that this even took place at all, you have to be realistic about the amount of time it took to get this into place since the majority of people asked for it, which is concerning regardless of how you look at it. But ill end it on a positive note for once, good job.

Countless

I started a Thank You thread for this, but will post it here as well. Thank You! We have been freed from purgatory HotM!

Trigr.6481:

Power.2957:

WE DID IT!

“Before I forget, you can also now queue for structured PvP without having to be in the Heart of the Mists – hallelujah!”

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MNUJX6clARAJ:https://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/guild-wars-2-hands-on-with-living-world-season-3+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

While I am giving a big thumbs up that this even took place at all, you have to be realistic about the amount of time it took to get this into place since the majority of people asked for it, which is concerning regardless of how you look at it. But ill end it on a positive note for once, good job.

Countless

Yeah, only about a year and 8 months for them to give us back what they took from us. Wow so innovative, an unprecedented achievement in programming.

Now we just need the actual PvP to be fun again.

Celtus.8456:

Trigr.6481:

Power.2957:

WE DID IT!

“Before I forget, you can also now queue for structured PvP without having to be in the Heart of the Mists – hallelujah!”

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MNUJX6clARAJ:https://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/guild-wars-2-hands-on-with-living-world-season-3+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

While I am giving a big thumbs up that this even took place at all, you have to be realistic about the amount of time it took to get this into place since the majority of people asked for it, which is concerning regardless of how you look at it. But ill end it on a positive note for once, good job.

Countless

Yeah, only about a year and 8 months for them to give us back what they took from us. Wow so innovative, an unprecedented achievement in programming.

Now we just need the actual PvP to be fun again.

Indeed, I mean technically the only thing they did was ensure that you don’t have to be in heart of the mists when you first que for a match.

Countless