Guild Wars 2

Can we get insight to what changes you are making as a team to completely neuter this meta you guys created???

I understand everyone makes mistakes and misjudges things so I can’t wait to tune in to the show

:)

I cannot wait to hear about these tacos….sounds delicious!

Will the upcoming gem store dragon finisher be shown this Friday?
Just want to see how much more work was put on it than our current r80 finisher.

I guess tacos part will be interesting at least.

Oh and I think this ready up format is way better (the one from 2 weeks ago). It’s less formal and involves the community more.

What is currently hmans favourite taco and why?

Side Q: opinion on strength runes?

Looking forward to it! =)

I personally can’t wait for the how to counter segment. Getting my BS detector ready.

Current meta: Boring to play or boring to watch or both?

The tacos revealed to be a scam. Only reason I tuned in

So uhh what’s the counter??

T raw.4658:

So uhh what’s the counter??

mesmer

Darek.1836:

T raw.4658:

So uhh what’s the counter??

mesmer

Are you being serious…..

Is this video still watchable somewhere? I missed the livestream of it. Nevermind, found it.

Seriously, the fact that they are all playing tiny little Asura’s should really raise some eyebrows of the devs.

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Darek.1836:

T raw.4658:

So uhh what’s the counter??

mesmer

Are you being serious…..

Mesmer,Thief glass combo is what they said they’re afraid of. Basically TCG’s comp combined with well coordinated players.

Shockwave.1230:

T raw.4658:

Darek.1836:

T raw.4658:

So uhh what’s the counter??

mesmer

Are you being serious…..

Mesmer,Thief glass combo is what they said they’re afraid of. Basically TCG’s comp combined with well coordinated players.

omg you were being serious

LOL

T raw.4658:

Shockwave.1230:

T raw.4658:

Darek.1836:

T raw.4658:

So uhh what’s the counter??

mesmer

Are you being serious…..

Mesmer,Thief glass combo is what they said they’re afraid of. Basically TCG’s comp combined with well coordinated players.

omg you were being serious

LOL

TCG would beat apex. so uh. yeah.

Darek.1836:

T raw.4658:

Shockwave.1230:

T raw.4658:

Darek.1836:

T raw.4658:

So uhh what’s the counter??

mesmer

Are you being serious…..

Mesmer,Thief glass combo is what they said they’re afraid of. Basically TCG’s comp combined with well coordinated players.

omg you were being serious

LOL

TCG would beat apex. so uh. yeah.

I highly doubt they would beat that overpowered team composition. Their main advantage is that 1v1 2v2 power, where they simply can’t lose. It’s so easy for them to play on 3 points then. Also… thieves are useless against them

Rezz.8019:

Darek.1836:

T raw.4658:

Shockwave.1230:

T raw.4658:

Darek.1836:

T raw.4658:

So uhh what’s the counter??

mesmer

Are you being serious…..

Mesmer,Thief glass combo is what they said they’re afraid of. Basically TCG’s comp combined with well coordinated players.

omg you were being serious

LOL

TCG would beat apex. so uh. yeah.

I highly doubt they would beat that overpowered team composition. Their main advantage is that 1v1 2v2 power, where they simply can’t lose. It’s so easy for them to play on 3 points then. Also… thieves are useless against them

Helseth decided to channeling his inner Michael Jordan, so I guess we’ll never know until he channels the rest of his inner Michael Jordan

Apex isn’t overpowered. They admit that they’re slow and rely on skirmishes to play 3 points.

They have a 2 frontline, 1 midline, and 2 backline comp. They aren’t very fast so they rely on people trying to take on their combination of backline + frontline or 2x backline + frontline and beating their heads against the wall.

This is what they mean when they said they want people to take on the staff ele, guard, and spirit ranger. That 3 man team is not going to die and even if they did get downed, the Spirit res would get them right back up.

They will have problems, however, when the other team is able to out-rotate them and neutralize Hman. Every team has a midline or two midlines that, if dealt with, make their team a lot easier to beat.

This happened with CC vs. SYNC in the Invitational. Caed was neutralized the whole series, making their damage output considerably lower and made Zombify easier to deal with.

So I’d recommend starting off with a 2 frontline, 2 midline, and 1 backline build and prioritizing team mobility to counter them.

Ex.

F: Soldier’s Hambow Warrior
F: Settler’s A/D S/T Ranger
M: Zerker Portal HS Mesmer
M: Trickery Acro S/D Thief
B: Staff Ele / Healing Guard

Soldiers Hambow and Settler’s Ranger can handle some pretty crazy situations for a while. Intelligent Portal play and rotation with S/D and Mesmer would isolate Apex from their backline, hitting them where they’re weakest instead of hitting the brick wall with your bare hands. The Staff Ele / Healing Guard + Hambow and Ranger would be your equivalent of Apex’s teamfight group, being really hard to kill and being able to keep a node indefinitely.

Rezz.8019:

I highly doubt they would beat that overpowered team composition. Their main advantage is that 1v1 2v2 power, where they simply can’t lose. It’s so easy for them to play on 3 points then. Also… thieves are useless against them

Clearly you didn’t watch the tournament games.

Darek.1836:

T raw.4658:

Shockwave.1230:

T raw.4658:

Darek.1836:

T raw.4658:

So uhh what’s the counter??

mesmer

Are you being serious…..

Mesmer,Thief glass combo is what they said they’re afraid of. Basically TCG’s comp combined with well coordinated players.

omg you were being serious

LOL

TCG would beat apex. so uh. yeah.

didn’t know they’ve played eachother

Any chance there could be a link to this on the twitch channel?

Or, to the guy who asked before, found his own and never shared with the group – where did you find it?

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Darek.1836:

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So uhh what’s the counter??

mesmer

Are you being serious…..

go watch TCG interview, they said the same thing, mr. know it all.

We’ll never know unfortunately because everyone’s internet in Europe sucks apparently that they can’t play on servers 10 hours away by plane without playing like they are on old baud modems latency wise Maybe the US players need to get accounts on a EU server. I live on the east coast in the US and have played before on English servers I could tell no difference.

I’m an NA player but EU team queue is just plain more competitive atm, I don’t think that’s really disputed. More teams playing competitively breeds stronger teams/comps.

TCG claims they can beat Apex comp, and Apex has admitted TCG is the comp they’ve most worried about. I’d love to see the match, but I think it’s a pretty good bet on TCG.

I do think TCG (and other) players underestimate how much damage Apex can put out, and how strong of a team fight potential that gives them. Good players, good coordinated damage. In extended team fights they’ll have the advantage.

However, sizer and rom both have extremely strong 1v1 builds, and could probably take Tarcis at home if he sticks with hambow. If that’s true, it’s a big rotational advantage, and should open up opportunities for TCG to outnumber and burst Apex at other points.

As far as mesmer goes, Apex comp has a couple other problems. No one on their comp is especially good at hunting down a mesmer, you need a thief to do that efficiently. Nnight might be able to get some pressure out. And then again, portal plays, huge advantage against a low mobility comp.

any plans to address hotjoin manipulations: high performers picking same side, swapping in 4v5 autobalancing, etc…