Guild Wars 2

This is kinda stupid to think of, it kinda makes my brain hurt.

Numerous PvE maps being added and changed all the time, and the grand ol’ Lion’s Arch being changed and recreated over and over.

But Heart of the Mists gets no love.

People are forced to sit there and wait when queued for matches, but the map offers nothing to do, and is simply bland and uninteresting.

Why is there apparently so much time and resources spent on maps that are temporary and simply show “stages” but nothing can be done to make HotM an interesting place to be?

Even WvW is getting new Bordlerlands, new mechanics, map changes (ruin update) and even EotM.

Interesting idea they could rebuild it and add all the tapestries and items
Then also rebuild skrying pool where u can see epic moments of ur gw1 character and u can invite ur friends to party

Extreme.8350:

Interesting idea they could rebuild it and add all the tapestries and items
Then also rebuild skrying pool where u can see epic moments of ur gw1 character and u can invite ur friends to party

Not hall of monuments, Heart of the Mists which is the pvp lobby and where you are required to be if you want to que up for pvp matches. Yes I agree something needs to be done with it, make it fresh and new along with all the pushing for PvP Legends Tourny’s and other pvp activity’s.

kamedin.4698:

Extreme.8350:

Interesting idea they could rebuild it and add all the tapestries and items
Then also rebuild skrying pool where u can see epic moments of ur gw1 character and u can invite ur friends to party

Not hall of monuments, Heart of the Mists which is the pvp lobby and where you are required to be if you want to que up for pvp matches. Yes I agree something needs to be done with it, make it fresh and new along with all the pushing for PvP Legends Tourny’s and other pvp activity’s.

kitten dat place i hate standing around there but the game forces u to when in queue

Extreme.8350:

Interesting idea they could rebuild it and add all the tapestries and items
Then also rebuild skrying pool where u can see epic moments of ur gw1 character and u can invite ur friends to party

Yeah I’d rather see EoTN rebuilt than HoTM. It’s not like you could spend anytime doing anything of value, as you could be pulled off to a PvP match at any moment.

You probably should have posted this in the pvp forum, you won’t get much love here.

I agree though, some sort of mini games or even crafting stations would be good.

Moa racing anyone?

Well it is a pvp area. They could add dueling to that area so while waiting for a match to start you could go off and 1v1.

Didn’t they update it relatively recently? They added the bank, TP etc. merchants and I seem to remember they made changes to the combat NPCs at the same time.

Only the zones that people really liked in the first place get demolished.

HoTM is a lobby, if you’re there, you should be queued up for pvp, testing a build, or showing guildies/friends the shenanigans a build can do. Dont see any reason you should need to “rebuild” something that was never destroyed in the first place.

Well you can fight the NPCs, practice on the bosses, or bonk the golems, or shoot the canons, or jump off the basilica-type structure, or see if you can clear the gap where the bridge is with rocket boots, or talk crap to people standing around, or burn yourself in the fire pit…

I’m not sure what you’re exactly asking them to do. If you want to play some mini games, you can get those belcher’s bluff kits… although I’m not sure if those work in HotM. If they don’t, they should.

Also, you don’t have to wait around in the lobby while you’re queued. You can go off into WvW or do some PvE while you wait.

If you ask me they should revert it back to where you could queue up while in PvE so you could at least gather or fight a world boss while you wait. It would certainly make the lobby less populated, but it would alleviate some of the complaints of having nothing to do while waiting.

EDIT: This is assuming that this was the way it used to be, this is only hearsay from friends.

Yamsandjams.3267:

Also, you don’t have to wait around in the lobby while you’re queued. You can go off into WvW or do some PvE while you wait.

You obviously don’t PvP. You have to be in the lobby to queue for matches, you can’t go into PvE or WvW anymore.

I’d be happy for them to revert this change.
Add back the Mystic Forge in HotM.
Allow duelling, by right clicking a player and selecting ‘Duel’ not in the main part of HotM, but a newer additional area for this to happen, only those who agree to duel each other will become hostile to each other, no downed state just down to 1%HP.
Add in 2v2, 3v3 arenas to the lobby, maybe eventually unranked for trial, something quick to practice skirmishing, again, no downed state. Just dead, last team standing wins. With an auto revive on completion.

The only thing PvPers can do to pass queue times is go into Practice arenas, which is just a joke.

The thing with HotM is, lore-wise, it’s The Mists! Mere mortals can just “re-build” The Mists! But it could do with a re-vamp all the same, maybe some otherworldly cataclysm that re shaped the area perhaps, or made it larger/smaller/fused with other chunks of The Mists.

Add back mystic forge pls pls pls

Haleydawn.3764:

Yamsandjams.3267:

Also, you don’t have to wait around in the lobby while you’re queued. You can go off into WvW or do some PvE while you wait.

You obviously don’t PvP. You have to be in the lobby to queue for matches, you can’t go into PvE or WvW anymore.

I’d be happy for them to revert this change.
Add back the Mystic Forge in HotM.
Allow duelling, by right clicking a player and selecting ‘Duel’ not in the main part of HotM, but a newer additional area for this to happen, only those who agree to duel each other will become hostile to each other, no downed state just down to 1%HP.
Add in 2v2, 3v3 arenas to the lobby, maybe eventually unranked for trial, something quick to practice skirmishing, again, no downed state. Just dead, last team standing wins. With an auto revive on completion.

The only thing PvPers can do to pass queue times is go into Practice arenas, which is just a joke.

Yes, I clearly have not queued in some time. Not sure why they would’ve changed that, seems a bit odd.

PvP lobby could for sure need some love. Let us duel in there as well( It can be away from all NPCs to prevent anyone getting offended by people dueling)

And please, the music. It is SO boring, wow..

Plus the whole map itself is also so plain and boring, would love a more vibrant approach on it.

There is no reason to actually sit in the PvP lobby unless you are practicing your build against the npcs / golems / targets, or are specifically setting up your pvp only build on your toon.

You can que for pvp matches or just hot-join from the menu, from anywhere.

While I agree that it would be nice to see some new features there, and some side-show distractions would fit the theme of the game, I just don’t see the need. If you are in HotM you should be build testing or designing. If you are just sitting in the lobby waiting in a que you could be doing anything else at the same time.

they need to add a lot more to the hotm. guild banks, crafting stations and mystic forge. Put in a jumping puzzle

roachsrealm.9284:

You can que for pvp matches or just hot-join from the menu, from anywhere.

You can only queue for un/ranked matches from the Lobby. Has been like it for months and it was the worst decision made.
And Practice mode is not worth setting foot into, it’s a cesspool of rude children and people who force autobalance for a win.

Why should the lobby get an update? Wouldn’t you rather have new PvP maps, than something that isn’t really useful? Even LA is useful, since it’s the portal hub and location of skin vendors.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Why should the lobby get an update? Wouldn’t you rather have new PvP maps, than something that isn’t really useful? Even LA is useful, since it’s the portal hub and location of skin vendors.

I’d rather have functionality, the lobby is fine in itself. Duel/skirmish arena, mystic forge and crafting stations would be great. Being just stood waiting for matches is boring.
Plus we’re only getting one map with HoT and we’ve had the same maps for years. If anet wanted to put new maps in, they’d do it more regularly than they have.
There’s a few game modes I would love to see too, but that’s for a different subforum.

I think that they should separate HotM more as a map.

As they added the TP Person, the laurel merchant, the bank guy and a merchant for salvage kits etc., the area is so cluttered and insanely laggy now due to so many people it’s really not fun or nice to look at.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Why should the lobby get an update? Wouldn’t you rather have new PvP maps, than something that isn’t really useful? Even LA is useful, since it’s the portal hub and location of skin vendors.

It just needs to entertain players while they wait…like in a Doctor’s waiting room, with a magazine or crossword puzzle or something, just something to distract you while you wait :/

Because the heart of the mists is not destroyed, it’s not even a “place”, it’s in the mists of course. The ironic part is that we asked for a solution to people joining games in the last moment and this solves that problem perfectly. We should have thought that through better.

I approve of this post, its sad but true. Been looking at same pile of stones and npc’s for 3 years now..

It would be nice to have more to do here. Maybe add some resource nodes, mystic forge, jump puzzle with chests, etc. It would give us something to do while waiting, besides using bank and trading post.

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Use the resources and allow us to queue outside of HoTM, then we could enjoy those other scenery changes while we wait for match making. Would enjoy world completion if I could do while waiting for PvP queue. Not to mention catch up on crafting and a bunch of other things.

I’d rather have new maps then a new place to wait.

Actually I’d rather be able to queue anywhere and have new maps. Was much better when I could hot join or roam in WvW while I waited for a match.

The reason there are no changes to HotM in this sense is because it’s not part of the lore, LA is.

Anyways, I would much rather if they let us queue from the open world again including custom areas.

I ask myself every kittening day why the kitten did anet trap us in the prison that is HoTM.

I actually know why though because Evan told me that people would be stuck in loading screens when their queue went up so they would miss the option to press okay.

Which is a stupid reason because that could easily be avoided by having everyone lock into the match within 1 minute instead of 15 seconds.

Lol right? It’s either work on map completion or PvP. I wish I could do both! You can do both when in a queue for WvW if the server is full.

As long as it isn’t another tedious jumping puzzle I would be overjoyed at any addition. Maybe a minigame… like a costume brawl but with a unique PvP theme. Or a “king of the hill” set-up where you use special Aspects like in that Zephyrite arena to hold a position on top of a tower and get PvP reward points (like, 2 per tick, 1 tic per second).

Hell, even a short but fun jumping puzzle would be fine… as long as it took you to a daily chest that let you unlock unique PvP only armour and weapon skins. Average queue times on my server are 2-3.5 mins, which I expect is in the upper range, so it can’t be a 5-10 minute jumping puzzle.

Something to appease players’ ADHD… please.

Provost.6210:

As long as it isn’t another tedious jumping puzzle I would be overjoyed at any addition. Maybe a minigame… like a costume brawl but with a unique PvP theme. Or a “king of the hill” set-up where you use special Aspects like in that Zephyrite arena to hold a position on top of a tower and get PvP reward points (like, 2 per tick, 1 tic per second).

Hell, even a short but fun jumping puzzle would be fine… as long as it took you to a daily chest that let you unlock unique PvP only armour and weapon skins. Average queue times on my server are 2-3.5 mins, which I expect is in the upper range, so it can’t be a 5-10 minute jumping puzzle.

Something to appease players’ ADHD… please.

Just wanna point out queue times has nothing to do with serves, it’s affected by your MMR. The more average your MMR is, the more average queue times you get. If your MMR is really low or really high, it will be quite different. Also, being in a party to queue increases the waiting time.

Zietlogik.6208:

This is kinda stupid to think of, it kinda makes my brain hurt.

Numerous PvE maps being added and changed all the time, and the grand ol’ Lion’s Arch being changed and recreated over and over.

But Heart of the Mists gets no love.

Even WvW is getting new Bordlerlands, new mechanics, map changes (ruin update) and even EotM.

Some actually new conquest maps would be nice too.

I’d rather they work on new TDM, Stronghold and Conquest maps than on a new lobby. Specifically, the first two would be nice!

MailMail.6534:

I’d rather they work on new TDM, Stronghold and Conquest maps than on a new lobby. Specifically, the first two would be nice!

I don’t think that the same people are doing this stuff. I would guess that other people would create a new HotM than the one that work on a competetive map.

The mists in GW1 was a much more interesting place. To be honest, I miss the rift and the courtyard/hall of heroes – the golden fortress at the centre of the rift. When I first arrived at the hall of heroes I was in awe. When I first arrived in the Heart of the Mists I was like “so which way is the hall of heroes?”

I know its only the lobby, but you spend so much time there. I need a new jumping puzzle spot…