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Posted by: Master Ketsu.4569

Master Ketsu.4569

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Notice something off? Nobody is in champion. No one. And at other times during the season we had only two. Normally this corrects itself as the season goes on, but S6 is strange – it seems to have gotten worse. With less than a month to go, S6 has a very real chance of ending with absolutely nobody in the champion bracket.

I’ve noticed when climbing ranks in this season especially, that every tier seems to be one lower than the last. Silver 1 players play like Silver 2, Silver 2 plays like Silver 3, Silver 3 feels like Gold, Gold 1 feels like Gold 2 and well you get the picture at this point. I generally hover between 1300 ~ 1450 which is also lower than last season, but really everyone seems to be lower. You can actually be on the leaderboard top 250 just by being mid Gold! That’s a thing this season.

Now technically this doesn’t really hurt matchmaking too much, but what it does is show that anets rank point distribution for winning/losing is off. The top 2% of players should all be in champion, not the top 0 ~ 0.001%. It proves the system is being too stingy with how many points it gives players for winning, or potentially too aggressive on taking points for losing. Either way, the algorithm could use some adjustments for S7 so this doesn’t happen again.

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

its possible. anet upped the games required to stay on leaderboard and I’m wondering if that has an effect on things. I don’t think they changed anything else besides this and the addition of <Profession max=“2” common=“-100” unique=“0” matching=“100”/>.

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Posted by: fishball.7204

fishball.7204

This is what happens when the majority of your playerbase quits ranked PvP :^)

Also, I already said last season the whole legendary thing is dumb because it depends on having enough people to distribute rating instead of going by a top XYZ system. For example, top 25 would be legend, top 250 would be plat and so on. It’s just more obvious now that there are no players that the system is flawed.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

draxynnic.3719

I think the issue is that the fact that people can’t maintain a good rating by doing well in the first ten-twenty games and then playing the minimum required to prevent decay is exposing the flaws in the system that make it virtually impossible to maintain a good rating if you play regularly.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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Posted by: Nighthawk.4687

Nighthawk.4687

It’s because the entire group of high MMR players quit. There are less than 250 people left in this game with high MMR. So when you’re on the leaderboards and no one queues you get matched with people in silver and if your team is so bad that you can’t carry you lose 20 rating and if you win you get 5 rating, which is why no one is in Legendary.

By all means if the players in Gold and Silver learned a few things to boost their own gameplay and rating and actually tried to be competitive instead of just talking trash every game and refusing to play as a team. Legit had a thief tell me to kill myself when I asked if he could go decap far….. So yeah when the community has become this kitten what do you expect lol?

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Posted by: Nighthawk.4687

Nighthawk.4687

I think the issue is that the fact that people can’t maintain a good rating by doing well in the first ten-twenty games and then playing the minimum required to prevent decay is exposing the flaws in the system that make it virtually impossible to maintain a good rating if you play regularly.

It’s not impossible, i usually play 2 to 3 games a day and this entire season I’ve been hovering around the 100-130 mark on the leaderboards. If you maintain like kitten win rate you should be able to hold your spot.

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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

sephiroth.4217

I think the issue is that the fact that people can’t maintain a good rating by doing well in the first ten-twenty games and then playing the minimum required to prevent decay is exposing the flaws in the system that make it virtually impossible to maintain a good rating if you play regularly.

It’s not impossible, i usually play 2 to 3 games a day and this entire season I’ve been hovering around the 100-130 mark on the leaderboards. If you maintain like kitten win rate you should be able to hold your spot.

I think that’s his point…. You play the minimum to stay on the boards which is a couple games a day as opposed to s1-4 where people played 30+ a day. The system encourages people to play less to look more skilled which is sort of an oxymoron in itself.

From that pic I can respect Rarnark and Tivez though, they are the true PvP players.

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

draxynnic.3719

That, and the issue is not one about whether you can maintain your position, it’s that the respective positions are at tiers quite a bit lower than you expect. Making it harder for everyone to maintain their MMR obviously isn’t going to prevent people from getting into the top 250, it’s just that the bottom end of the top 250 is going to come at a significantly lower tier than it did before.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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Posted by: Nighthawk.4687

Nighthawk.4687

I think the issue is that the fact that people can’t maintain a good rating by doing well in the first ten-twenty games and then playing the minimum required to prevent decay is exposing the flaws in the system that make it virtually impossible to maintain a good rating if you play regularly.

It’s not impossible, i usually play 2 to 3 games a day and this entire season I’ve been hovering around the 100-130 mark on the leaderboards. If you maintain like kitten win rate you should be able to hold your spot.

I think that’s his point…. You play the minimum to stay on the boards which is a couple games a day as opposed to s1-4 where people played 30+ a day. The system encourages people to play less to look more skilled which is sort of an oxymoron in itself.

From that pic I can respect Rarnark and Tivez though, they are the true PvP players.

Yeah but even only playing that I still have like 200 games played this season, people can’t play 30+ games a day anymore because they have to make a living now without esports. People also don’t want to play a lot because our games for the most part aren’t even fun, 7 out of 10 of my games have players so far below my skill level that I can just sit far and farm them. When you’re playing druid and you drop an engi in about 5 seconds something is wrong.

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Posted by: Abelisk.4527

Abelisk.4527

Those players are in decay

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

It’s because the entire group of high MMR players quit. There are less than 250 people left in this game with high MMR. So when you’re on the leaderboards and no one queues you get matched with people in silver and if your team is so bad that you can’t carry you lose 20 rating and if you win you get 5 rating, which is why no one is in Legendary.

Exactly this.

I lost 4 games and I went from rank 16 to 100. Lost 4 more and went to rank 200. It’s no wonder people who reach their desired rank no longer queue until decay lol.

Excuse me while I attempt to win 28 straight games to please the matchmaking Gods.

aka FalseLights
Rank: Top 250 since Season 2
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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

sephiroth.4217

I think the issue is that the fact that people can’t maintain a good rating by doing well in the first ten-twenty games and then playing the minimum required to prevent decay is exposing the flaws in the system that make it virtually impossible to maintain a good rating if you play regularly.

It’s not impossible, i usually play 2 to 3 games a day and this entire season I’ve been hovering around the 100-130 mark on the leaderboards. If you maintain like kitten win rate you should be able to hold your spot.

I think that’s his point…. You play the minimum to stay on the boards which is a couple games a day as opposed to s1-4 where people played 30+ a day. The system encourages people to play less to look more skilled which is sort of an oxymoron in itself.

From that pic I can respect Rarnark and Tivez though, they are the true PvP players.

Yeah but even only playing that I still have like 200 games played this season, people can’t play 30+ games a day anymore because they have to make a living now without esports. People also don’t want to play a lot because our games for the most part aren’t even fun, 7 out of 10 of my games have players so far below my skill level that I can just sit far and farm them. When you’re playing druid and you drop an engi in about 5 seconds something is wrong.

I’ve got a full time job and on my work days I can play about 10 but on the weekends my partner gives me half the day to play so I can get a good 20-30 from that and just assumed others would have a lot more, but I certainly agree that this season has not been fun at all with the matchmaking, I’m a Gold getting smashed back into Silver by the top 50 players so once I got into Gold for the 4th time I started to play TF2. (god I hate spy, they’re god kitten thieves with ally disguises!)

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.

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Posted by: Bergamont.2497

Bergamont.2497

There are a number of 1800+ players not appearing on that screen shot because they didn’t do that weeks minimum required games yet or are simply decayed. Just because they don’t appear on the leaderboard doesn’t mean they don’t exist and wont show up just before the minimum required games increases. Also that is very clearly Naru and Nos decayed/not enough games yet. This screen and comment is deceptive to anyone who is not familiar with this season’s pvp

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

I don´t think i will make over 100 matches this season so won´t show up in the end … 100 is a lot of games and GW2 playtime. The minimum matches seem quite high.

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Posted by: Crinn.7864

Crinn.7864

Also that is very clearly Naru and Nos decayed/not enough games yet. This screen and comment is deceptive to anyone who is not familiar with this season’s pvp

This whole forum is deceptive to people not familiar with this season’s pvp.

Sanity is for the weak minded.
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Posted by: Lord Hammer Hand.4815

Lord Hammer Hand.4815

calm down 2 of them in decay lol so we have at least 2 of them in legendary LOL

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

draxynnic.3719

I think the issue is that the fact that people can’t maintain a good rating by doing well in the first ten-twenty games and then playing the minimum required to prevent decay is exposing the flaws in the system that make it virtually impossible to maintain a good rating if you play regularly.

It’s not impossible, i usually play 2 to 3 games a day and this entire season I’ve been hovering around the 100-130 mark on the leaderboards. If you maintain like kitten win rate you should be able to hold your spot.

I think that’s his point…. You play the minimum to stay on the boards which is a couple games a day as opposed to s1-4 where people played 30+ a day. The system encourages people to play less to look more skilled which is sort of an oxymoron in itself.

From that pic I can respect Rarnark and Tivez though, they are the true PvP players.

Yeah but even only playing that I still have like 200 games played this season, people can’t play 30+ games a day anymore because they have to make a living now without esports. People also don’t want to play a lot because our games for the most part aren’t even fun, 7 out of 10 of my games have players so far below my skill level that I can just sit far and farm them. When you’re playing druid and you drop an engi in about 5 seconds something is wrong.

I’ve got a full time job and on my work days I can play about 10 but on the weekends my partner gives me half the day to play so I can get a good 20-30 from that and just assumed others would have a lot more, but I certainly agree that this season has not been fun at all with the matchmaking, I’m a Gold getting smashed back into Silver by the top 50 players so once I got into Gold for the 4th time I started to play TF2. (god I hate spy, they’re god kitten thieves with ally disguises!)

Which demonstrates why this is a problem. If you’re a low gold/high silver getting matched against top fifty players, you’re not going to have a good experience – in fact, as far as match quality goes, you might as well play unranked at that point.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

Am I stupid? What does it mean that people aren’t champions?? What????

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Posted by: Ivantreil.3092

Ivantreil.3092

Am I stupid? What does it mean that people aren’t champions?? What????

He means people who used to play in the esl tournaments, or pro tournaments, profesional pvp players.

PvP Rifle Engi player no matter how dark the meta is.

Metabattle: Drunk Engineer build

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Posted by: UBcktieDL.5318

UBcktieDL.5318

Is it NA? on EU we have 9 people with 1900+

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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

sephiroth.4217

I think the issue is that the fact that people can’t maintain a good rating by doing well in the first ten-twenty games and then playing the minimum required to prevent decay is exposing the flaws in the system that make it virtually impossible to maintain a good rating if you play regularly.

It’s not impossible, i usually play 2 to 3 games a day and this entire season I’ve been hovering around the 100-130 mark on the leaderboards. If you maintain like kitten win rate you should be able to hold your spot.

I think that’s his point…. You play the minimum to stay on the boards which is a couple games a day as opposed to s1-4 where people played 30+ a day. The system encourages people to play less to look more skilled which is sort of an oxymoron in itself.

From that pic I can respect Rarnark and Tivez though, they are the true PvP players.

Yeah but even only playing that I still have like 200 games played this season, people can’t play 30+ games a day anymore because they have to make a living now without esports. People also don’t want to play a lot because our games for the most part aren’t even fun, 7 out of 10 of my games have players so far below my skill level that I can just sit far and farm them. When you’re playing druid and you drop an engi in about 5 seconds something is wrong.

I’ve got a full time job and on my work days I can play about 10 but on the weekends my partner gives me half the day to play so I can get a good 20-30 from that and just assumed others would have a lot more, but I certainly agree that this season has not been fun at all with the matchmaking, I’m a Gold getting smashed back into Silver by the top 50 players so once I got into Gold for the 4th time I started to play TF2. (god I hate spy, they’re god kitten thieves with ally disguises!)

Which demonstrates why this is a problem. If you’re a low gold/high silver getting matched against top fifty players, you’re not going to have a good experience – in fact, as far as match quality goes, you might as well play unranked at that point.

Not only that but I genuinely love this game but the game itself encourages me not to play, just like others when they reached their own desired rank. All of it bleeds the player base and makes the games worse off.

(I have since discovered letting decay hit the account will put me against a bunch of bronzes/Silvers, really easy to carry but atleast I’m avoiding top players)

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Posted by: Master Ketsu.4569

Master Ketsu.4569

Is it NA? on EU we have 9 people with 1900+

That’s still pretty bad.

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Posted by: HalfDevil.7863

HalfDevil.7863

You do know at that time most people who were supposed to be top 10 are in decay?? Like it’s pretty obvious when you have someone drop from 2k rating to the 1700’s with no change to their wins or losses.