Guild Wars 2

This season the mmr and matching system has changed a bit, and with the new meta we have here it suddenly makes a lot of the legendary players from season 1 realize how bad they are. Read the post tittle.

You are NOT entitled to reach legendary just by playing, you have to EARN it.
Stop QQing about how bad the system is and how you should be able to reach diamond or legendary with ease just because you did it last season.

I wouldn’t even be able to count the amount of times ive fought “primordial legend” players who are just really, really bad.

“i was legendary last season, so i should totally be able to reach it again. obviously theres something wrong with the system >:c "

please, stop qqing and go l2p.

On another note, the season started 2 days ago. the reason matchmaking might not be entirely perfect for everyone right now is because of this. the really good and pro players are all matched with the baddies. just wait a while until people get to their deserved division and the matchmaking will be a lot better for everyone.

for those who say that its stupid how you get teamed with players of your own MMR, but not your opponents: read the tittle and think a little harder about it.

mate, stop talking nonsense. People don’t qq that they can’t reach something, not everyone want to reach top. They qq that system is broken. And yes, it’s. Legendary players will have no problem to jump to top divisions, problem is match making. It was told that if you are on 3 game lose streak you will fight against those with 3 loses too. I am at second division and had 15 loses in the row. I have been playing against same team few times in the row, how it can be that they just won against me and I have to play against same players again being in losing row?

So dude, be so kind, read first what people are talking about then post your disappointment.

ziggystardust.3721:

mate, stop talking nonsense. People don’t qq that they can’t reach something, not everyone want to reach top. They qq that system is broken. And yes, it’s. Legendary players will have no problem to jump to top divisions, problem is match making. It was told that if you are on 3 game lose streak you will fight against those with 3 loses too. I am at second division and had 15 loses in the row. I have been playing against same team few times in the row, how it can be that they just won against me and I have to play against same players again being in losing row?

So dude, be so kind, read first what people are talking about then post your disappointment.

well what i got out from reading your reply is exactly what i was trying to address in my post.

the system does this to make the better players progress faster than the rest.
like i said, wait a while until everyone is in their right division.

… answer is: playerbase.

For more information:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/stop-saying-MMR-is-not-used/first#post6005067

ziggystardust.3721:

mate, stop talking nonsense. People don’t qq that they can’t reach something, not everyone want to reach top. They qq that system is broken. And yes, it’s. Legendary players will have no problem to jump to top divisions, problem is match making. It was told that if you are on 3 game lose streak you will fight against those with 3 loses too. I am at second division and had 15 loses in the row. I have been playing against same team few times in the row, how it can be that they just won against me and I have to play against same players again being in losing row?

So dude, be so kind, read first what people are talking about then post your disappointment.

where did they say you would get paired with people with your winning (or losing) streak?

I don’t recall reading that. What they said, is the mmr would be used to make your team, meaning you play with people more or less at your skill level.

And then, the oposing team is selected among the teams in the same division. So, until all the pros leave the lower divisions, you will be farmed by them, take it for granted. You will also play games against opponents under your skill level, and should shred them to pieces.

I think it’s really fair. Last season, the pros had to beat the pros even to advance in amber. It made no sense, when newbies could advance at the same pace because they were fighting newbies.

Also, last season, the mmr would pair you with people well below your skill level if you had a good enough winning streak. Last season was just a grind. This one? It’s a challenge.

bigo.9037:

the system does this to make the better players progress faster than the rest.
like i said, wait a while until everyone is in their right division.

I don’t get it, 1st you say MMR (because its based on previous season results) is worthless, then you say grouping based on MMR will separate good from bad players…

If anything, season 2 system will actually help bad (with good but fake MMR) players to get good groups and undeserved pips by been carried by actually good players

Nikola.3841:

bigo.9037:

the system does this to make the better players progress faster than the rest.
like i said, wait a while until everyone is in their right division.

I don’t get it, 1st you say MMR (because its based on previous season results) is worthless, then you say grouping based on MMR will separate good from bad players…

If anything, season 2 system will actually help bad (with good but fake MMR) players to get good groups and undeserved pips by been carried by actually good players

Division=/=rating, theres plenty of past diamond/legend players that have bad rating

Unfortunately A-net made a big mistake and didn’t have a functioning ladder for season 1 and now everyone thinks they are a top 5-10% player because they were able to grind to diamond league and above level last season. You can try to explain that how it works now is actually the best for all until you are blue in the face but a lot of people don’t want to understand it. All I know is A-net better to stick to it’s guns. Some minor tweaks like letting diamond and legendary from this season start next season in leagues 2 and 3 might alleviate some of the early mismatches for season 3 may be called for. Unlike peewee sports and in socialist utopias we all can’t be winners because we aren’t all winners.

There’s primordial legends that do NOT use team cheat (all soloQ games). There’s Primordial legend that keep going for cap points they cant win from (like going far 1 vs 2, loosing then, making the others loose mid as well).

Primordial legends using the old warrior (not berserker). While it can be good, it’s nowhere near the current levels of meta. I’ve kill the guy 8x in the same pvp match, and 6x in the next. And I did NOT REACH diamond (was ruby).

I see a lot of primordial legends with either high achievement count (wich means their experience in pvp is limited, pve ap requires these days a lot of time, See HoT), or other stuff that proofs they only play pvp casual.

Or two enemies downed, a third one a live (but not really a threat that much, a thief with low hp), i’m downed as the allie of some primordial legends. Guess twice what they do? They just AUTO ATTACKED, the down body for more then 20 secs. They ignored me AND the thief. Guess what the thief did? He stomped me (took him actually very long, making this mistake even worse). Both enemies rallied, they died within 5 secs after the enemies regrouped.

Primordial? geezes.

Or another mistake: They do not know tranquillity timer, or stillness. They don’t even seem to realize it’s impact. Lost twice because of that. I call the timer (they don’t read it), they don’t come, enemy gets both, kaboom, we so much points behind, that even the ‘zerg the enemies mid’ strategy fails badly.

I’m not claiming to be an expert, but this was just bad and sad to see. I guess the achievements and title lured a lot of pve players in pvp, more so then I thought. And the mmr bypasses, actually existed last season.

brannigan.9831:

Unfortunately A-net made a big mistake and didn’t have a functioning ladder for season 1 and now everyone thinks they are a top 5-10% player because they were able to grind to diamond league and above level last season. You can try to explain that how it works now is actually the best for all until you are blue in the face but a lot of people don’t want to understand it. All I know is A-net better to stick to it’s guns. Some minor tweaks like letting diamond and legendary from this season start next season in leagues 2 and 3 might alleviate some of the early mismatches for season 3 may be called for. Unlike peewee sports and in socialist utopias we all can’t be winners because we aren’t all winners.

That isn’t really the problem. I was always close to the top 10% or higher when they did have ladders and had a solid 60+% win rate. This new system I would be losing 8 or 9 in a row. That just doesn’t stack with my win rate since the game came out and a huge part of the issue is having team mates that clearly have no clue what they are doing – sometimes the other teams are good but that only explains some of the losses – most is down to poor team mates. And don’t tell me that I just got really bad after 5000 games – it ain’t so. Though perhaps my MMR is now so shot it may take weeks to recover