Guild Wars 2

Let’s talk about the skill that is carrying all the warrior meta-builds, both condi and power.

Right now this skill provides:

• Good base power damage;
• Blind (5 sec);
• 4 stacks of Bleeding;
• 4 stacks of Confusion;
• Cripple (8 sec);
• Daze (1 sec);
• Blast finisher;
• 300 range (basically, a small leap. Eviscerate has the same range but is a leap finisher.);
• Spammable every 5 seconds.

Is possible to have all these things in a single skill?
Anet nerfed the #5 revenant staff skill because of his damage-evade-cc triple effect, which is perfect. So why this skill remains untouched?

its the warriors version of a " condibomb"
other classes have this as well
not defending it, it does seem a bit too much..

Sigh yes it is to much. I would like to have a 2s stun instead of all the condies and the daze and a leap. A 300 leap with good damage and a stun is fitting the weapon and good enough.

Daze is half second, but yes, the skill does far too much for one skill. It’s also spammable every 2.5 seconds actually, with a trait.

kappa.2036:

Let’s talk about the skill that is carrying all the warrior meta-builds, both condi and power.

Right now this skill provides:

• Good base power damage;
• Blind (5 sec);
• 4 stacks of Bleeding;
• 4 stacks of Confusion;
• Cripple (8 sec);
• Daze (1 sec);
• Blast finisher;
• 300 range (basically, a small leap. Eviscerate has the same range but is a leap finisher.);
• Spammable every 5 seconds.

Is possible to have all these things in a single skill?
Anet nerfed the #5 revenant staff skill because of his damage-evade-cc triple effect, which is perfect. So why this skill remains untouched?

Seriously? Oh my kitten! I need to try that out!

Romgaard.1965:

its the warriors version of a " condibomb"
other classes have this as well
not defending it, it does seem a bit too much..

The difference is that condi bombing on other classes requires activating multiple skills in conjunction. Skull grinder is a 1-button condi bomb.

I don’t even understand why skullgrinder is a condi bomb either. Outside of SG mace is a defensive power weapon, but for some reason Anet decided it needed a super condibomb on the berserk f1.

That BS makes Mallyx Revenants cry because of their buggy Mace they instead have.

Wolfric.9380:

Sigh yes it is to much. I would like to have a 2s stun instead of all the condies and the daze and a leap. A 300 leap with good damage and a stun is fitting the weapon and good enough.

Yes that is what warriors need: another long hard cc.

I love skull grinder. I get hit with it and Warrior is all like “how does that feel?”

I transfer back like “I don’t know, you tell me.”

Then he like “pft, I have resistance.”

Then I’m like, “Resistance? Don’t you mean chill and bleeding?”

Then he’s like, “That’s ok, I have more resistance.”

Then I feel bad for him cause I don’t think he understands how this is about to go down. Lol.

In all seriousness though, yeah it is a bit over the top to be doing all that in just one hit. Was a poor way to give Warriors a condi build.

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Jaxom.7310:

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Oh, sorry. Ahem, SKULL GRINDER IS PERFECTLY FINE, YOU NOOBS NEED TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY!!!! #GITGUD.

+1, nothing to add here xD

Jaxom.7310:

9 comments in… no white knights, wha is happeninginging!!!

…they have all had their skulls ground to bits.

Jaxom.7310:

9 comments in… no white knights, wha is happeninginging!!!

Watching a thread complain about a non-issue.

Sykper.6583:

Jaxom.7310:

9 comments in… no white knights, wha is happeninginging!!!

Watching a thread complain about a non-issue.

Basically this. Only reason mace is being used is because of the skill being complained about, the rest of the weapon is pretty lackluster.

alemfi.5107:

Basically this. Only reason mace is being used is because of the skill being complained about, the rest of the weapon is pretty lackluster.

Except the block, and the instant daze.

The only thing “lackluster” about mace is the auto.

Crinn.7864:

alemfi.5107:

Basically this. Only reason mace is being used is because of the skill being complained about, the rest of the weapon is pretty lackluster.

Except the block, and the instant daze.

The only thing “lackluster” about mace is the auto.

It has a block that forcibly counters if hit in melee range, and a minor CC, which help the Warrior float around trying to get their telegraphed 300 range grinder off. If it helps, try not being in a close proximity to a Berserking Warrior, though you could work it down slowly while kiting so that while it is out-of-Berserk you have less health to blow up.

The skill is ok.

The animation is nice, its reliable and not ewww clunky for warrior, you can counterplay dodge it.

Now what doesnt have counterplay?
- passive stability preventing a well timed mid leap instant fear
- resistance cough cough
- the sustain warrs expecting you to dodge 7x of those before hot builds start runing low on gas

Maybe the power+reflect component as the hbrid condi weapon is even meta on a zerker amulet build.

Crinn.7864:

alemfi.5107:

Basically this. Only reason mace is being used is because of the skill being complained about, the rest of the weapon is pretty lackluster.

Except the block, and the instant daze.

The only thing “lackluster” about mace is the auto.

you mean the block that is insanely short? 1 word. cc break. lets get real. the only reason warrior isnt in ESL is because its a noob stomper. everything it does is easily telegraphed and can be dodged everytime. if you lose to warrior constantly. please just get good. stop blaming everything else for your own shortcomings.if you dont like endure pain kite it or use condis. you dont like 20 seconds of resistance? corrupt it or kite it. or better yet apply so much condi while hes using it that when its down he insta dies. i do it all the time to counter other warriors who dont understand resistance isnt a cleanse. warriors post hot were pretty bad before they beefed up their sustain.

Sykper.6583:

Crinn.7864:

alemfi.5107:

Basically this. Only reason mace is being used is because of the skill being complained about, the rest of the weapon is pretty lackluster.

Except the block, and the instant daze.

The only thing “lackluster” about mace is the auto.

It has a block that forcibly counters if hit in melee range, and a minor CC, which help the Warrior float around trying to get their telegraphed 300 range grinder off. If it helps, try not being in a close proximity to a Berserking Warrior, though you could work it down slowly while kiting so that while it is out-of-Berserk you have less health to blow up.

Technically not even only in melee range. It literally only blocks one attack, so one hit from range will stop the block (can’t remember if it will still counterattack or not), unlike other melee counter blocks (ranger greatsword 4, old daredevil block utility etc.).

In regards to the person you are replying to, I personally only use the term “instant” for things that you can cast and have it take effect immediately allowing you to continue other actions; such skills often work while disabled (like staff 2 on mesmer, smite condition utility on guard etc.) Pommel Bash, while not having a cast time associated with it, is still something that has an animation, and can be avoided, but its effect is fairly minimal anyways (melee range short daze).

Yes, the skill Skullgrinder is overbudgeted, is it a significant problem right now? Not really, considering that its usage is locked behind Berserker stance activation and being on the Mace Main Hand weapon.

Zintrothen.1056:

Daze is half second, but yes, the skill does far too much for one skill. It’s also spammable every 2.5 seconds actually, with a trait.

Do you people stand still ? Do you people not have dodge or blocks,or teleports,or leaps ? IF you get eaten every 2.5 sec by this youre playing Horribly wrong.

@ alemfi
If it’s not a significant problem, let’s give a skill that grants 6 different things pressing one button to every class, and we will see how it goes LOL.

Other than complete avoidance (lol) perhaps bring a friend to constantly cleanse you in a two versus one scenario, cos team game.

@alemfi

Fair point, but the Mace block has an interesting interaction with the Shield Mastery where ranged projectiles get ‘reflected’ for its duration without triggering the counterblow. This changes if they do a projectile in close range, but I wanted to make this known as it is an extra flair to the skill in question. That’s why I said it could ‘block’ in melee but that was a mistaken explanation.