Guild Wars 2

And ranger wins! Because of pet heal. I’ve been wondering, why is rangers lick wounds better than guardian’s symbol of judgement? LOL!

it’s because guardians are much harder to down. Their bunker nature and condi cleanse make them very tough target for Ranger. If the Ranger could get Guardian down, s/he deserves the win.

just my 2 opinion

Ranger #2 isn’t a knockback.
Ranger #3 can be interrupted by more than a knockback.

Why are we talking about this instead of why downed state even exists in the first place…

Atherakhia.4086:

Ranger #2 isn’t a knockback.
Ranger #3 can be interrupted by more than a knockback.

Why are we talking about this instead of why downed state even exists in the first place…

It exists because many gw1 players were to kitten have a rez signet in their build.

Atherakhia.4086:

Ranger #2 isn’t a knockback.
Ranger #3 can be interrupted by more than a knockback.

Why are we talking about this instead of why downed state even exists in the first place…

It isn’t a kb but it has an aoe interrupt. #3 you can delay the res, but the pet will still go back to what it was doing.

Totally unbalanced.

However when a guardian and thief go down its totally cool the guardian wins.

Conan.8046:

Totally unbalanced.

However when a guardian and thief go down its totally cool the guardian wins.

Depends on the situation. If it’s a 2v2. Thief wins because it’s harder to stomp a thief than a guard.

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Conan.8046:

Totally unbalanced.

However when a guardian and thief go down its totally cool the guardian wins.

Depends on the situation. If it’s a 2v2. Thief wins because it’s harder to stomp a thief than a guard.

Same with the ranger vs guardian situation: in a 2v2, the guardian wins.

Rangers have the best heals, and stupidly strong regen. Plus a ton of doge spam so no a ranger with basic understanding of mechanics is hard to down. When they down they have two stomp Denys (if he has a CC pet) and a lot of classes can’t stomp them by just attacking them in down state, because the heal in question will out heal spike.

Truly this is balanced and fair. /Sarcasm

The Boz.2038:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Conan.8046:

Totally unbalanced.

However when a guardian and thief go down its totally cool the guardian wins.

Depends on the situation. If it’s a 2v2. Thief wins because it’s harder to stomp a thief than a guard.

Same with the ranger vs guardian situation: in a 2v2, the guardian wins.

Depends on who starts the stab stomp first actually. But yes if two people try to stomp without stab. Unless you account for the ranger’s possible wolf fear and/or wolf tackle.

Since i actually PLAY a ranger, unlike most people on the forums, i can tell you that in 99% of times, a ranger will NOT be able to even use their downed #3 skill.

Reason is, their downed #2 skill, is a CLEAVE stun. It needs a target.
Want to kill rangers? Down it, stealth/pop stability and YOU WON.
Kill pet and YOU WIN
Kill pet #2 and YOU WIN

Couldn’t the guardian use #2 to interrupt the pet heal?

Brigg.6189:

Couldn’t the guardian use #2 to interrupt the pet heal?

It’ll just walk right back and heal after being knocked away.

Guardian 2 hits through stealth Ranger 2 no longer does… Also, warrior wins both these downed fights so…

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Brigg.6189:

Couldn’t the guardian use #2 to interrupt the pet heal?

It’ll just walk right back and heal after being knocked away.

Yup that is what happens. One would think that ranger would be punished for having the pet knocked away from lick wounds. But it just walks right back its owner and continues to rez lmao.

Aza.2105:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Brigg.6189:

Couldn’t the guardian use #2 to interrupt the pet heal?

It’ll just walk right back and heal after being knocked away.

Yup that is what happens. One would think that ranger would be punished for having the pet knocked away from lick wounds. But it just walks right back its owner and continues to rez lmao.

not always. Like any other pet functions, its more like 50/50 chance of it actually working.
yes ANet fixed the stupid uneven terrain issues, but still, it doesnt work underwater (like rangers EVER lose underwater), doesnt work if pet get dazed, doesnt work if pet gets feared. Wont work if you can knock it back far enough (600 range should do it)

Aza.2105:

And ranger wins! Because of pet heal. I’ve been wondering, why is rangers lick wounds better than guardian’s symbol of judgement? LOL!

you meant to say when skill 3 of rangers actually work? 1st the pet has low health and dies. 2nd Who knows where the pet is at and take forever to come and resurrect you. Now assuming a Ranger actually was able to down a guardian… the ranger totally deserves to win! Period.

zackgtie.7421:

Aza.2105:

And ranger wins! Because of pet heal. I’ve been wondering, why is rangers lick wounds better than guardian’s symbol of judgement? LOL!

you meant to say when skill 3 of rangers actually work? 1st the pet has low health and dies. 2nd Who knows where the pet is at and take forever to come and resurrect you. Now assuming a Ranger actually was able to down a guardian… the ranger totally deserves to win! Period.

If the pet dies they’ll just switch to another, which so happens to spawn right on top of them.

One time I actually managed to kill the pet while downed. I was like YES! Then he swapped to a pet with full health and started to do lick wounds, I was like NO!!

Aza.2105:

zackgtie.7421:

Aza.2105:

And ranger wins! Because of pet heal. I’ve been wondering, why is rangers lick wounds better than guardian’s symbol of judgement? LOL!

you meant to say when skill 3 of rangers actually work? 1st the pet has low health and dies. 2nd Who knows where the pet is at and take forever to come and resurrect you. Now assuming a Ranger actually was able to down a guardian… the ranger totally deserves to win! Period.

If the pet dies they’ll just switch to another, which so happens to spawn right on top of them.

One time I actually managed to kill the pet while downed. I was like YES! Then he swapped to a pet with full health and started to do lick wounds, I was like NO!!

We can switch but that is another complain we have! our pets dies easily so on Spvp i am on my second pet before i’m downed because i like to give you the F2 skill then i switch to the second pet to give you his F2 skills also. That is what i do and my weakness is if i am downed i don’t have that switch option. Maybe i will try something different now :P

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Brigg.6189:

Couldn’t the guardian use #2 to interrupt the pet heal?

It’ll just walk right back and heal after being knocked away.

Yea, that is stupid. We had 3 guys auto attacking a downed ranger once (to see how long he would last) the lick wounds was healing a crap tonne more then the damage we were doing. So I though, lol I’ll just interrupt his pet … Nek Minute .. he’s healing again. That’s not totally broken

The profession that has the most right to complain about down state is engineer. Both ranger’s and guardian’s are very strong.

People should not talk about which downed state is better, it should talk instead if downed state is needed at all. In my opinion, downed state should have never been introduced. It is useless and not interesting (you kill one player, but you actually didn’t then you have to slowly stomp him..)

[+1] – Atherakhia & Tatsuo!

Pet ding fast realy are you serios!! In team fith vs necros and engys and mass aoe ye 1v1 vs nero probably but for other classes hell no and swiching the pet in combat is OP in down state its make no sance at all !!
Rangars are beast master they control les inteligent beast ok thay follw strent why dose the pet no ataking the rangar wen its down ? it makes more sance then swiching to another one

Tatsuo.1478:

People should not talk about which downed state is better, it should talk instead if downed state is needed at all. In my opinion, downed state should have never been introduced. It is useless and not interesting (you kill one player, but you actually didn’t then you have to slowly stomp him..)

Well imo downed state is a blight, it stops good players doing well and lets off bad players. Just makes numerical advantage even bigger…that being said there is some tactics to it sometimes.

I was not willing to read all of your opinions so I apologize if I simply repeat what some of you have already stated. I also play a ranger, and I do not like the class in any team situation apart, however they are great for 1 vs 1 (I use triple shout build). Actually Ill be honest I really hate the class. Anyway since your thread started with a circumstance in which the ranger down stated won let me present a counter circumstance in which the ranger down state does not win in 1 vs 1 if both players go down at the same time. Well basically a warrior has a better down state than ranger if they have the vengeance traited, If a ranger is downed same time as a warrior the warrior will be the first to get up and can simply pop stability and down the ranger before the pet is able to rally the ranger. Second of all there are utlity skills so that other classes can rally quickly as well such as engineer elixir R, or the warrior war banner (I admit these are rarely used). Thirdly, there are counters to the pet rezzing the ranger, not to mention they die so quickly to conditions and aoe. Lastly, as i play ranger as well I can vouche that you will barely ever get the chance to even pop your downed skill number 3 to rally your pet to rez you. The only chance you get to use it is if you have been downed and for whatever reason no enemy targets you right away.

FirstInfantry.2795:

I was not willing to read all of your opinions so I apologize if I simply repeat what some of you have already stated. I also play a ranger, and I do not like the class in any team situation apart, however they are great for 1 vs 1 (I use triple shout build). Actually Ill be honest I really hate the class. Anyway since your thread started with a circumstance in which the ranger down stated won let me present a counter circumstance in which the ranger down state does not win in 1 vs 1 if both players go down at the same time. Well basically a warrior has a better down state than ranger if they have the vengeance traited, If a ranger is downed same time as a warrior the warrior will be the first to get up and can simply pop stability and down the ranger before the pet is able to rally the ranger. Second of all there are utlity skills so that other classes can rally quickly as well such as engineer elixir R, or the warrior war banner (I admit these are rarely used). Thirdly, there are counters to the pet rezzing the ranger, not to mention they die so quickly to conditions and aoe. Lastly, as i play ranger as well I can vouche that you will barely ever get the chance to even pop your downed skill number 3 to rally your pet to rez you. The only chance you get to use it is if you have been downed and for whatever reason no enemy targets you right away.

I think the OP is talking about a 1v1 situation. If you gave the fight your all and you both are low on hp and you both get downed, he’ll win. Warriors no doubt have the best downed state, but he’s talking about guard vs. ranger in this example. But any other class other than warrior would lose to the ranger in a downed state battle.

war have strongest down state 1v1 but in team fiths its not so good 90% of the times they dont get the chance to use vengance