Guild Wars 2

I saw a rank 9 ( yes pretty low but still) running a default guardian build, he hadn’t swapped out any skills, default traits, default gear, default weapons. I kept thinking hmm wow, 9 ranks and he’s still using that.. Free kill every time he got near anyone though I suppose. Heh.

Mammoth.1975:

The problem with your logic is that it doesn’t necessarily carry through to different skill levels. Once again, all the video shows is that ranger is good in low level play. Oops, don’t make another logical leap by inferring that I am denying they are good in high level play. I’m just saying the video is evidence of…. nothing much. His opponents might have been clicking for all you know. This could be the clicker world championship match, and he is the best clicker around. TBH, the thing that stood out to me most (after how horrible a match it was, seriously, after about 3 minutes ‘my eyes are going to bleed’ kept running through my head) was that he was surprisingly agile for someone who was clicking their abilities o.0

+1

Best clicker multiverse. We’ll see this fella at PAX2014 leading the ranks

Wombat.3510:

I played my spirit ranger again tonight, but this time I just stood on a point and waited with all my spirits up. Sure enough, every single opponent came charging up and unloaded on me at point blank range, while ignoring the spirits. I even had a couple spirit rangers do the same thing so I just killed their spirits before they got to me and watched my pet tear them apart! It’s getting to the point where people are just killing themselves in a ridiculous manner.

Please people, take a lesson and use a little skill for once! Kill the spirits, THEN move in on the ranger!

Alright we will use a little skill and kill your spirit zoo first. What about you Spirit Rangers? When are you going to stop hiding behind the passive gameplay spirits provide?

I don’t see the issue here. If he is a bad Ranger then he will play against bad players. They could be clicking their skill bars for all we know.

Daishi.6027:

Why’s everyone think I’m crazy when I say Rangers just need a nerf to their heals/regen and less doge spam then they’d be fine?

So nerf rangers only survivability? Okay, then nerf thief invis.

Rufy.6093:

Daishi.6027:

Why’s everyone think I’m crazy when I say Rangers just need a nerf to their heals/regen and less doge spam then they’d be fine?

So nerf rangers only survivability? Okay, then nerf thief invis.

Thief invis is balanced and you can counter or outplay it.

Rangers can out heal spike consistently over a long period of time, it’s in the same boat if not stronger than ele’s water and heal to full before it was nerfed and this is all while going pew pew pew with condis and evade spam in a pinch. Rangers do not need this much survivability and having it is unfair over all.

No class should just flat out, out heal spike or burst.

Daishi.6027:

No class should just flat out, out heal spike or burst.

The game would be better balanced if rangers and other classes without the ability for burst/spike damage would just lay down and die when they are attacked by any burst class.

Let’s add a little more stealth into the mix and make it a big party!

Daishi.6027:

Rufy.6093:

Daishi.6027:

Why’s everyone think I’m crazy when I say Rangers just need a nerf to their heals/regen and less doge spam then they’d be fine?

So nerf rangers only survivability? Okay, then nerf thief invis.

Thief invis is balanced and you can counter or outplay it.

Rangers can out heal spike consistently over a long period of time, it’s in the same boat if not stronger than ele’s water and heal to full before it was nerfed and this is all while going pew pew pew with condis and evade spam in a pinch. Rangers do not need this much survivability and having it is unfair over all.

No class should just flat out, out heal spike or burst.

You’d have a point if Spirit Rangers had an actual Regen other then their Elite

They neither have Natural Healing nor Signet of the Wild

and Most of the Spirit Rangers you see in TPvP use Carrion Jewel

This leaves you basically saying that Troll Ungent is the Reason Rangers are overpowered, Despite it being rather mid road in comparison to other heals in terms of HPS (For example, Healing Signet of Warriors is close to 400 HPS while TU is around 326 HPS)

He could be more efficient.

Daishi.6027:

Rufy.6093:

Daishi.6027:

Why’s everyone think I’m crazy when I say Rangers just need a nerf to their heals/regen and less doge spam then they’d be fine?

So nerf rangers only survivability? Okay, then nerf thief invis.

Thief invis is balanced and you can counter or outplay it.

Rangers can out heal spike consistently over a long period of time, it’s in the same boat if not stronger than ele’s water and heal to full before it was nerfed and this is all while going pew pew pew with condis and evade spam in a pinch. Rangers do not need this much survivability and having it is unfair over all.

No class should just flat out, out heal spike or burst.

Rangers are steady dps (not counting spirit ranger) and would be owned by every class if you destroy our heal. Play a none spirit ranger, and come back telling me how great they are. You want to destroy the only good build spirit, then fine. But don’t make ranger the joke of pvp by nerfing a heal that lasts 8 sec on a 25 sec cd.

Spirit ranger isn’t the only class like this I play allot of thief and do my best just to live I get to kill someone only if they make a huge mistake, so I made a guardian and without really knowing what my skills did killed everyone mashing buttons using a aoe mark build.

Rufy.6093:

Daishi.6027:

Rufy.6093:

Daishi.6027:

Why’s everyone think I’m crazy when I say Rangers just need a nerf to their heals/regen and less doge spam then they’d be fine?

So nerf rangers only survivability? Okay, then nerf thief invis.

Thief invis is balanced and you can counter or outplay it.

Rangers can out heal spike consistently over a long period of time, it’s in the same boat if not stronger than ele’s water and heal to full before it was nerfed and this is all while going pew pew pew with condis and evade spam in a pinch. Rangers do not need this much survivability and having it is unfair over all.

No class should just flat out, out heal spike or burst.

Rangers are steady dps (not counting spirit ranger) and would be owned by every class if you destroy our heal. Play a none spirit ranger, and come back telling me how great they are. You want to destroy the only good build spirit, then fine. But don’t make ranger the joke of pvp by nerfing a heal that lasts 8 sec on a 25 sec cd.

It is true my comments are more towards BM and less so to spirit, however the status quo is generally the same.

Rangers indeed have steady DPS but if we’re going to compare it to any glass cannon build major ones being dagger thief, shatter mesmer, Zerk d/d ele or even Zerk warrior. Rangers can kill them easily enough with their pew pew pew, their heal aside they have more than enough access to C/C and doge to outplay any of these, and the same two doge rolls any other class has, that can counter the obvious burst.

The general DPS inbetween the hard burst is usually just flat out healed, and that’s the problem with their heals. They get to pour on steady damage which is almost impossible to avoid (2 doge rolls then maybe 1-2 invulns or evades depending on the class vs 3000 arrows) next to a few reflective options, which aren’t either viable or don’t last long enough to be a fesable counter, plus condis which go through invulns, evade spams, and invis. Though war and zerk ele do have a better time with that than mes and thief.

Not to mention a hard hitting or c/cing pet that doesn’t die outside of heavy team fights.

while taking virtually nothing and against something with either a low health pool or just squishy this is in no way a fair or skillful fight.

So to comment on the claim that they will just lie down and get owned by every other class. Well no as I stated before they have more than enough access to c/c and doge (not to mention endurance regen plus vigor) to out play any class with just some game sense. This would not only makes the clkitten less passive but gives more play against it, in a pretty fair way. (Dunno why it censored “class”)

I have my mesmer standing by if they listen to you Daishi. Or maybe my war..

I believe that was the point of him playing that way.

The video was made in response to how easy they are to play in another thread.

I am not the player in the video. I found it randomly on net and thought I should post it as a proof to show how low the skill cap of a Spirit Ranger.