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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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I have 80s of each profession and all can be subjected to this problem at some point or another whether by their own doing or a teammate.

We really need a way to break ourselves OUT of stealth, if favorable to do so. There are not always enemies around to attack.

I would personally love to be able to, say for example, right click the buff to remove it from myself if I no longer need it. An example where this can happen is if a friendly thief drops shadow refuge to assist landing a dunk on the last remaining enemy. Once the enemy is gone and nobody is left to attack, you can be stuck in stealth for sometimes upwards of 10 seconds. Although rare, I have lost matches because of this.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

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i support this :x

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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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I feel it’s probably obvious, but in case I wasn’t clear in my initial post: remaining stealthed with no way to break yourself out keeps you from being able to neutralize/capture which results in lost time and missed point ticks.

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Posted by: Thangorodrim.2748

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Gw2 is the first game i have played where i cant do that

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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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Same for me. I have for the most part learned to be very careful about putting myself in that situation, but it still happens occasionally and frustrates me.

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Posted by: Sars.8792

Sars.8792

move out of refuge?

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Delete thief class from the game?

It’ll only make it better anyway.

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Posted by: Runewolf.8456

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yes, yes, yes. So many times i sit on point for 30 sec waiting for SR to turn off =/.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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every time i am about to have this issue all i do is dodge roll so a bomb hits the downed.

thank you explosives adept minor.

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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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I can only hope for it to be patched. Keep alive for dev input please

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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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Anyone have any other ideas other than clicking the buff or a hot key?

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Posted by: Ithilwen.1529

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Leaving stealth to cap a point would be nice at times. The kittening about Thieves has already caused bizare game changes. Allowing us to decap faster would make it worse.

If I understand correctly Engi’s can now invis longer than thieves. Rangers have pretty frequent access to stealth as well. The new "revealed’ idea makes SR, HiS and etc largely non viable as a defense.

At this point I get outshone on stealth by Engis in dungeon running.

Basically every time stealth is modified it’s made less accessible and less useful. Let’s not encourage yet another nerf .

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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At this point I get outshone on stealth by Engis in dungeon running.

youre doin it wrong then, teef is way more useful at stealthing. engi can do 1/2 the skips, which is usually enough.

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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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I would even be satisfied with a simple “stealth won’t change because we believe x, y, and z would be affected”

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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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Can anyone think of any reasons why it would NOT be beneficial to have the ability to pull yourselves out of stealth?

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Posted by: Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

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At this point I get outshone on stealth by Engis in dungeon running.

youre doin it wrong then, teef is way more useful at stealthing. engi can do 1/2 the skips, which is usually enough.

What stealths CAN’T engi do? Engi can stealth like 15 seconds.

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Posted by: Siva Mira.3546

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Can anyone think of any reasons why it would NOT be beneficial to have the ability to pull yourselves out of stealth?

Think of the other side, are you going to be really happy if your enemy’s Thief can utilize this change?

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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At this point I get outshone on stealth by Engis in dungeon running.

youre doin it wrong then, teef is way more useful at stealthing. engi can do 1/2 the skips, which is usually enough.

What stealths CAN’T engi do? Engi can stealth like 15 seconds.

theres several in arah where you can sr in the middle of running, after smoke walling to start it off. cm too, that last skip to get to frost/centaur boss. and prolly for the 5 barrels too, but i dont do cm enough. its all just way smoother with a thief, but its not like you really need stealth, ever… as long as you arent a bad dodger. i can get myself to abom in p2 arah stealthless, on engi. its just… not something i really want to do.

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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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Siva, I don’t want to win a game because an enemy was stuck in stealth. That’s just cheesy.

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Posted by: GhOst.4019

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At this point I get outshone on stealth by Engis in dungeon running.

youre doin it wrong then, teef is way more useful at stealthing. engi can do 1/2 the skips, which is usually enough.

What stealths CAN’T engi do? Engi can stealth like 15 seconds.

theres several in arah where you can sr in the middle of running, after smoke walling to start it off. cm too, that last skip to get to frost/centaur boss. and prolly for the 5 barrels too, but i dont do cm enough. its all just way smoother with a thief, but its not like you really need stealth, ever… as long as you arent a bad dodger. i can get myself to abom in p2 arah stealthless, on engi. its just… not something i really want to do.

Dude I think you are in the wrong forums……………………
I do not main a thief but you definitely need stealth…..
Someone please escort this man back to the PvE section

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Posted by: Siva Mira.3546

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Siva, I don’t want to win a game because an enemy was stuck in stealth. That’s just cheesy.

It is the pro and con for using Stealth in this gamemode. It is the decision you chose to stay in SR and refuse to leave it or attack your enemy. If anything that needs improvement it is the gamemode not the Stealth. I play Thief and play with other Thiefs. Some Thief was trying to double stomp with me while he putting down SR on the down body on the point but I know the consequent of it so I have to move out of SR and move back to stay on point or the down body will cap or decap the point. So whose fault was that? If anything it is the Thief’s fault for not knowing his own action.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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At this point I get outshone on stealth by Engis in dungeon running.

youre doin it wrong then, teef is way more useful at stealthing. engi can do 1/2 the skips, which is usually enough.

What stealths CAN’T engi do? Engi can stealth like 15 seconds.

theres several in arah where you can sr in the middle of running, after smoke walling to start it off. cm too, that last skip to get to frost/centaur boss. and prolly for the 5 barrels too, but i dont do cm enough. its all just way smoother with a thief, but its not like you really need stealth, ever… as long as you arent a bad dodger. i can get myself to abom in p2 arah stealthless, on engi. its just… not something i really want to do.

Dude I think you are in the wrong forums……………………
I do not main a thief but you definitely need stealth…..
Someone please escort this man back to the PvE section

oh sorry i didnt realize answering the question would make me a pve player

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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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One of the arguments I initially made was that there are many times you get stealthed through no fault of your own and can’t undo it. That’s a poor design choice imo.

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Posted by: Siva Mira.3546

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The problem still lies on you you could choose to move out but you didn’t and let it happened anyway.

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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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I don’t see why you view it as a problem to allow players the ability to leave stealth. You’re playing devil’s advocate with no supporting argument.

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Posted by: tamzooka.5637

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Can any of you sneaky developers provide any insight on the original post please?

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Posted by: Dante.8456

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no no no & no. I always end up duelling thieves in PvP and they like to drop their stealth and try and be crafty. Well the upside of perm stealth in PvP is that, although they can always dis-engage from my Guard, they can’t cap while they do so. It is a balancing mechanic. If thieves want to perm stealth then fine but there are consequences to it.
I do think that an option for secondary friendlies (i.e. those that did not apply the stealth but were affected by a team mate’s stealth) is perfectly acceptable though.

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