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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

Jourdelune.7456

Hello all,

I’ve been there:
https://competitive.guildwars2.com/en/news/watch-the-guild-wars-2-world-championship-qualifier

Was not able to find anything about comp.

I’ve seend bracket, but can’t click on team to get roster/comp info.

I’ve been to twitch, I can’t find it… perhaps I am “too noob” to know where to find archives matchup… but..

Nobody is writing summary of that even yet.

Anyone can help me find more informations about it? At least, a link on the laggy bad rez twitch video would be a start.

Thank you,

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Posted by: suffish.4150

suffish.4150

The qualifiers for EU ran these compositions:

Rank 55:
Engi-necro-rev-ranger-mesmer

Vermillion:
Engi-necro-rev-ranger-mesmer

TCG:
Ele-ranger-mesmer-warr-rev

The qualifiers from NA ran these compositions:

Astral Authority:
Engi-necro-rev-ranger-guard

Never Lucky:
Engi-ranger-Rev-guard-thief

Team PZ:
Engi-necro-rev-mesmer-ranger

These are just from memory so I may have one or two classes wrong, but I highly doubt it. I think the most notable things are ranger being present in every team, warr dropping out of the meta on all but one team and 2/3 EU teams taking a Mesmer whereas 2/3 NA teams are taking a guard. Of course this all could change for the world championship itself.

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Posted by: Arcadio.6875

Arcadio.6875

You can watch past broadcasts here:
https://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/profile

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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

Jourdelune.7456

Thank you guyz, really appreciated.

@suffish or others:

Did you see major differences in the season 3 meta build versus what people were running?

Since tempest seems not there anymore, what class did defensive supportive rotations more than the other?

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Posted by: suffish.4150

suffish.4150

Thank you guyz, really appreciated.

@suffish or others:

Did you see major differences in the season 3 meta build versus what people were running?

Since tempest seems not there anymore, what class did defensive supportive rotations more than the other?

On the teams that did run an ele, it was still the class giving the most support and rotating into fights their team was losing to heal their team back up.

For those not running an ele, Druid was used as the main heal support class but engi was the one that was always going for revives and getting their team back up when downed. This was especially important when with a necro. From what I have seen, engi+necro will be rotating together and taking 2v2s a lot.

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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

Jourdelune.7456

@suffish

To resume my understanding from your post:
Druid rotate on team fights to heals, while engi do skirmishes with necro.

In case we have a 3+ fights, Druids should be there for heals and Scrapper for Rez.

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Posted by: JDjitsu.7895

JDjitsu.7895

The qualifiers for EU ran these compositions:

Rank 55:
Engi-necro-rev-ranger-mesmer

Vermillion:
Engi-necro-rev-ranger-mesmer

TCG:
Ele-ranger-mesmer-warr-rev

The qualifiers from NA ran these compositions:

Astral Authority:
Engi-necro-rev-ranger-guard

Never Lucky:
Engi-ranger-Rev-guard-thief

Team PZ:
Engi-necro-rev-mesmer-ranger

These are just from memory so I may have one or two classes wrong, but I highly doubt it. I think the most notable things are ranger being present in every team, warr dropping out of the meta on all but one team and 2/3 EU teams taking a Mesmer whereas 2/3 NA teams are taking a guard. Of course this all could change for the world championship itself.

I thought Rank 55 was running a DH in the game against TCG? I’m actually quite positive. I think Texbi was running one…

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Posted by: BlackBeard.2873

BlackBeard.2873

It is simple to figure out why everyone had engie+ranger+rev (except TCG, whose ele was a detriment for reasons below):

Engie and Ranger support just as well as ele, but have superior hard mitigation, much more damage, and much more map mobility. You still need support, and since ele is slow and can’t really bang bodies in large fights, you are better off picking alternatives. For TCG, fights with Denshee were only able to really stalemate, but not win. Denshee played well, but the ele class is just strictly worse than ranger/engie at giving support, and that is all that it can do (the others also can 1v1 pretty well and do really good damage too). The map was slowly lost as superior mobility of the support gave more options to win points, even with Helseth making strong portal plays.

Rev is obviously taken because it still has insane damage and can survive for obscenely long by stringing together hard mitigation skills.

The rest of your DPS options have some variability as there is a decent split of benefits and drawbacks for each class.

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Posted by: azyume.6321

azyume.6321

I had some time to kill today and decided to watch the EU matches and made a compilation of the builds used.

The Civilized Gentlemen

Draze

Berserker

vs Orange Logo
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR5enMdAtkiVhAehAElilqADpA0ACAvj2W7sVpHE7yBA-TphGwAEeAAAOCALLDI4gAke/hBXAAA

vs Rank 55 Dragons
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR5enMdAtkiVhAehAElilqADpA0ACAK9gYXO4d02antA-TphGwALLDM4CAI4gAA4IAQ4BAke/BA

Lord Helseth

Chronomancer

vs Orange Logo
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAW8encfC1qhlpBeoBMrhlnjqeQP0FFdxynH7sACgDD-TJRHwABuCAAeIAm3fAZZAA

vs Rank 55 Dragons
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAW8encfC1qhFqBeoBMrhlnjCdxynH7sACgDreQP0FF-TJRHwAAeIAILDE4KAYe/BA

ROM

Druid
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAsYWnUqA1CiNsA+rActglZB7JAUn+Ww/zCaD1pqNnyalMtzA-TpBFABqfCAA4QA0fZAR2fohHAABHBAA

Frae

Herald

vs Orange Logo
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsemn3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdskFNFyegJMitFIARQdG34HA-TpBFABJcIAA4BAwwJAQ8yANcEAaf/BA

vs Rank 55 Dragons
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsemn3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdskFNFqtABICsj5MtxegJMiA-TpBFABJcIAEvMQDHBAAeAAtv/ADnAAA

Denshee

Tempest

vs Orange Logo
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJAodn0XCNYidOAOOAcYilNAb4BEAKgu71/6hlYFkBqAA-TJRIABA8AAgvMAz7PM7JAAA

vs Rank 55 Dragons
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJAodn0XCdOg9XCWYCcYilNAjYFkBqADPgAQB0dv+XPsA-TJRIABwXGAgHAAO7PM7JAAA

Team Comp: Berserker, Chronomancer, Herald, Druid and Tempest

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Orange Logo

Sindrener

Daredevil (vs TCG)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVn8lCFOhlOBmPB8PhFYCzLNcGaDaJgAQGYOEeCbhA-TpBEABGcCAI4BAw0+DmXGAgjAQEHCAA

Herald (vs vM)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAW8un3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdskFNFyegJMiqz4G/odABICA-Tpg9AA7+DQZAA
*Obs: casters didn’t showed equipement set but mentioned weapon set and runes, no identification of sigils.

Lord Asura

Tempest (vs TCG)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJAodn0XC9XidOAWYCcYilNAjYFcBGBu31/6hd4BEAKgA-TJRIABwXGAgTAQF7PM7DAAA

Druid (vs vM)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAsYWnUqA9rgNsA2CCctglZBzpqNnyaw/zCaD9JAUn+WlMtzA-TpBFABis/wCnAACOEAN8AA6vMAAHBAA

Tagé

Dragonhunter
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQRAse5dn8cCVDhFdCeDB8DhlEiSe5j+r/aZDgEATGsCA-TpBFABAfQAI4BAgz+DNcEAA4EA0fZAA

Kxxzrs

Herald (vs TCG)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAW8un3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdskFNFidMnpNtDIARwegJshA-TZBFABiXGIhHAQJ7PAwVAQgDCAA

Chronomancer (vs vM)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAW8encfCdohlpB2qBMrhlnj6sACgDDdxynHreQP0FF-TJRHwAILDE4JAYe/BAXEAA

Rayzen

Berserker

vs TCG
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNApeTnMdAdhgtkCWhAElilqATpHE7yBIFgGQA4d02antA-TZhGwAAeAAMLDQa/BCHBgBnCAA

vs vM
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNApeTnMdAdhgtkCWhAElilqATpHE7yBvj2W7sFpA0ACAA-TZhGwADOFAMLDQ4IAMb/BAPAAA

Team Comp 1: Daredevil, Tempest, Dragonhunter, Herald and Berserker
Team Comp 2: Herald, Druid, Dragonhunter, Chronomancer and Berserker

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Rank 55 Dragons

Mancow

Druid
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAW8YnUqA1Ci9rAOsActglZBzpqNnyaw/zCaD9JAUn+WlI60A-TpBFABA8AA6vMg6HEgFOCAEcBAEZ/BA

Levin

Herald
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAW8un3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdsklNFyOgHchshpMrpNAH4BA-TpBFABiXGAgDCQDXAAGeAAuv/gAHBAA

Texbi

Reaper
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBLhZ6kGRozGsyGw2GgeTsgLYxXxu4Ycas1E6XQXtAwCA-TpBHwAJLDA4IAce/BCHCgAPAABnAAA

Zan

Scrapper
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASnUUBFpitbBepCEqilJjKc7EWiPTBEA0/dd33A-TJBFAB/XGo99HI4BAAwFAAA

Misha

Chronomancer
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAW8encfClphdoB2qBMrhlnjqeQP0F9sACgDDdxynHD-TJRHwAAeCAm3fAZZgAXEAA

Team Comp: Druid, Herald, Reaper, Scrapper and Chronomancer

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Vermillion

Triffin

Herald

Vs Rank 55 Dragons
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsemnvN2gS6JvQRVlbosryPUYW5IKYs8ElFNFidMnpNtFIARwegJshA-TpBFABA8AAEvMQCHCgGOCAuv/ADnAAA

vs Orange Logo
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsemnvN2gS6JvQRVlbosryPUYW5IKYs8ElFNFyegJshtFIARgdMnpNA-TpBFABiXGo99HY4EA0wRAIhDBAAPAAA

Alkore

Druid
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAsYWnUqA9rg1CCOsActglZBD+fWQboPBg603ypqNnyalMtzA-TpBFABEcIAEZ/hGOBAAcEAW4BA0fZAA

Kervv

Chronomancer
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAW8encfCdoh1qBmpBMrhlnj6sACgDDdxynHreQP0FF-TJRHwAAeCAILDYe/hAXEAA

Argi

Scrapper
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASnUUBdpitbBGpCEqilJji+vr7+Oc7SmwS8ZKgAA-TJBFABE8AA6vMQS7PAwFAAA

Snowball

Berserker (vs Rank 55 Dragons)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR5enMdAtkiVhAehAElilqADpA0ACAvj2W7sVpHE7yBA-TphGABAcEAOf/hlKDQwDAYgLAAxHEAA

Reaper (vs Orange Logo)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBLhZ6kGRoyGszGw2GgeTsgLYUph2wzC6qFAWAxXxv4YE-TpBHwAFOBAn3fIZZACPAAAHCABHBAA

vs The Civlized Gentlemen
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBLhZ6kGRoyGszGw2GgeTsgLYTjtmQ/K+K2FHjQXtAwCA-TpBHwAn3fgwDAowJAIZZABHBAAHCAA

Team Comp 1: Herald, Druid, Chronomancer, Scrapper and Berserker.
Team Comp 2: Herald, Druid, Chronomancer, Scrapper and Reaper


Total:

5 Heralds
4 Druids
4 Chronomancers
3 Berserkers
2 Scrappers
2 Reapers
2 Tempests
1 Dragonhunter
1 Daredevil

Guardian Commander
Thief / Mesmer / Elementalist / Warrior / Necromancer / Ranger / Engineer / Revenant
Crystal Desert – Eredon Terrace – Fort Aspenwood – Stormbluff Isle

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Nice post.
/55charmeleons

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Posted by: Spicy.2481

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I had some time to kill today and decided to watch the EU matches and made a compilation of the builds used.
snip

Didn’t yet check all of the builds you posted but you already have a mistake in the first build of Drazeh, he actually used carrion amulet, not mender. He trolled at the start because they know casters will check their builds, which is kinda funny since Jebro wasn’t even boggled by the amulet choice and didn’t go back to check it again later. How can I know he used carrion amulet? Check his full hp after the match starts, it’s 28k something and at the start the hp is 24k something. You can confirm the hp yourself ingame. Also why would anyone run mender with the condi metabuild? I could understand if he had a decent power weapon instead of longbow since mace+shield is decent even with power builds because of the all cc. I believe you picked up the builds from the caster previewing them but you probably will have to double check every odd spec since players can swap around stuff.
Edit: You also have a wrong weapon in the build, I just went back to confirm that he was using longbow because you made me think twice lol.
Edit2: Also Denshee used lighting flash against r55 instead of aftershock like you have in your build.

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Posted by: SlimChance.6593

SlimChance.6593

Be curious on the amulet breakdown? I see lots of carrion.

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Posted by: azyume.6321

azyume.6321

I had some time to kill today and decided to watch the EU matches and made a compilation of the builds used.
snip

Didn’t yet check all of the builds you posted but you already have a mistake in the first build of Drazeh, he actually used carrion amulet, not mender. He trolled at the start because they know casters will check their builds, which is kinda funny since Jebro wasn’t even boggled by the amulet choice and didn’t go back to check it again later. How can I know he used carrion amulet? Check his full hp after the match starts, it’s 28k something and at the start the hp is 24k something. You can confirm the hp yourself ingame. Also why would anyone run mender with the condi metabuild? I could understand if he had a decent power weapon instead of longbow since mace+shield is decent even with power builds because of the all cc. I believe you picked up the builds from the caster previewing them but you probably will have to double check every odd spec since players can swap around stuff.
Edit: You also have a wrong weapon in the build, I just went back to confirm that he was using longbow because you made me think twice lol.
Edit2: Also Denshee used lighting flash against r55 instead of aftershock like you have in your build.

Ah, I did picked on the amulet, but probably got the old link when was moving text and links around.

I am not saying those are the true real builds, there are probably errors, I didn’t re-checked all yet, only a few because it is tiresome. I was updating Denshee build on top of his old one and Aftershock slipped. In general, the builds are pretty much the same, it is just to have an idea. The ones who used a trait, profession or skill differently on the first round of the matches, fixed to go with the flow later on.

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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

Jourdelune.7456

Well azyume.6321, you ROCK TONS. +1 on your post.

Don’t let people that don’t contribute stopping you. Leecher and Lamer are everywhere. Your time is really appreciated. I would enjoy a “professional write up” with comps and build for all PRO event.

But not everybody could be a good journalist/blogger.

I was happy to see that the Scrapper EU builds look the same than what I run after the balanced patch.

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

Nice work azyume.6321 !!!

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

Sooooo many thieves, WTF teams would totally stack them if not for rules – stealth spells nerf was totally justified!!! Gotta stop thieves from dominating pvp for 3 seasons straight!

/sarcasm off

On more serious note: not really surprised about set ups. Fangirl mode on for Sind <3

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Posted by: Spartacus.3192

Spartacus.3192

Total:

5 Heralds
4 Druids
4 Chronomancers
3 Berserkers
2 Scrappers
2 Reapers
2 Tempests
1 Dragonhunter
1 Daredevil[/quote]

OMG DH so OP according to every other QQ post. it was used a grand total of ONCE. Nerf incoming.

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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

Jourdelune.7456

For all QQ about comp, DH and Thief or Stuff….

We just have 4 team here, not all the pro-league team and comp. (16)
http://pro.eslgaming.com/gw2/proleague/standings/

It’s the start of a new season. Comp/build could still changes.

Real Esport game give you all those stats from the game anyway.

In gw2, we need to look at twitch and do our own stats manually.

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Posted by: azyume.6321

azyume.6321

North America World Championship Qualifier:

Team PZ

Kaypud

Herald

Retribution versus Never Lucky

Invocation versus Astral Authority

Paul

Druid

Shout vs Never lucky

Shout Signet vs Astral Authority

Muffinzz

Chronomancer
Chronophantasma Shatter

Zoose

Scrapper

Power Hammer Elixir S Variant vs Never Lucky

Power Hammer Purge Gyro Variant vs Astral Authority

Java
Reaper
Signet Chillomancer

Team Comp: Herald, Druid, Chronomancer, Scrapper and Reaper
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Never Lucky

Olrun

Daredevil
Marauder Staff Variant with Daredevil runes vs PZ

Berserker

Wanderer Macebow versus EZ PZ

M_oobs (Forum thinks he is a kitten!)

Dragonhunter
Meditrapper Variant
*Obs: The second trait on column 2 for Virtues hasn’t been updated yet on the build editor website. It displays Supreme Justice, however the current updated trait is Virtuous Solace: Drop a protective area at your location when you’re stuck while below the health threshold.

Ipno

Herald
Invocation Variant versus Team PZ

Retribution Variant versus EZ PZ

Kraalle

Druid
Shout Signet

Jeff

Scrapper
Power Hammer Advanced Turrets Variant

Team Comp 1: Daredevil, Dragonhunter, Herald, Druid and Scrapper
Team Comp 2: Berserker, Dragonhunter, Herald, Druid and Scrapper

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Astral Authority

Phantaram

Druid
Shout Signet of the Wild Variant

Magic Toker

Herald
Invocation Strength Variant versus EZ PZ

Retribution Variant versus Never Lucky

Chaith

Scrapper
Power Hammer

Wakkey

Dragonhunter
Meditrapper Retaliatory Subconscious Variant

Noscoc

Reaper
Signet Chillomancer versus EZ PZ

Spectral Corruption versus Never Lucky

Team Comp: Druid, Herald, Scrapper, Dragonhunter and Reaper
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Ez Pz Lemon Squeezy

Zorh

Druid
Shout Signet of the Wild Variant

Wanngg

Dragonhunter
Meditrapper Marauder Variant versus EZ PZ

Meditrapper Paladian Variant versus Never Lucky

Ementon

Herald
Retribution Leadership versus EZ PZ

Retribution Rune of Surging Variant versus Never Lucky

Tarcis

Berserker
Destroyer GreatswordMace versus EZ PZ

Macebow versus Never Lucky

Chudat

Tempest
Latent Stamina Auramancer

Team Comp:Druid, Dragonhunter, Herald, Berserker and Tempest
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Total:

4 Heralds
4 Druids
3 Dragonhunters
3 Scrappers
2 Reapers
2 Berserkers
1 Chronomancer
1 Tempest
1 Daredevil

Disclaimer: the builds haven’t been revised yet, there may be errors regarding them. This post is only for general common knowledge of professions being used during the World Championship Qualifier.

Guardian Commander
Thief / Mesmer / Elementalist / Warrior / Necromancer / Ranger / Engineer / Revenant
Crystal Desert – Eredon Terrace – Fort Aspenwood – Stormbluff Isle

(edited by azyume.6321)