Guild Wars 2

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Yasi.9065:

With a below average mmr you will – at the moment at least – have a quite high chance of getting matched against a higher mmr team. But thats simply because its a ladder, and you are with your below average mmr too far up compared to your fellow below average mmr players, because you grinded your way out of sapphire into ruby.

Which is why Im re-iterating over and over, to take a break if you are on a constant loosing streak and constantly blown out of matches. Let your fellow below average mmr players catch up to you. Those with a certain grindy mindset will get there. Just some not as fast as others.

StickerHappy.8052:

Yasi.9065:

Well, no, I wasnt. But now that you mention it… if you cant see the benefit of dueling someone with the counter build to your teambuild… then, Im sorry… but you really arent as good as you think.

Im not even commenting on that “top 8” ToL3.

And anet probably didnt reset mmr because kickoff period would have taken too long for mmr to set itself to correct value. Its why you need pre-season for that.
Also, tbh, Im kinda glad. All those mmr tankers from last season got punished for it now. Way to go anet !

Oh yea do not get me wrong, I told you I am not suffering from losing streaks now (sapphire I did)

But again, do you not agree the MMR should also be taken into consideration for the opposing team?

The reset I could understand, but you are forgetting that Anet also gave average players average MMR.

Average mmr to new players was a huge mistake.
Not having pre-season was also one.
And the impact of loosing against a lot higher mmr team should have been lessend by not taking away a pip, but taking away winning streak bonus.
MMR doesnt get downadjusted by much, so that is already implemented.

I hit a wall, too, in sapphire. I got matched with the weirdest people… then again in ruby a few days later… so I just gave up on soloqueue and it has been so much better ever since.

Getting in duo is how I also went to attenuate the flow of ppl who have clearly reached higher than they should have. Otherwise it can really be hell to try and carry too hard for too long alone.

Lol, he doesn’t … he keeps on jumping around and his experience is not the barometer of how the system works and what not. The fact are LIMPID AS WATER. The MMR algorithm is faulty. Like, we have made that point again and again; there is no need to go back and forth over something that’s been explained over and over again.

And it also has been explained over and over again that you can “fix” this yourself by making a 5man premade if you think you are highly misrated. No mmr involved anymore.

Yasi.9065:

And it also has been explained over and over again that you can “fix” this yourself by making a 5man premade if you think you are highly misrated. No mmr involved anymore.

What would I? I don’t have to 5 man to get a competitive/ 50 50 game. Thats stupid; Anet might as well specify that ranked is only for team. Which is obv. not the case. What type of system forces people to pre made to get fair games??

Fivedawgs.4267:

Yasi.9065:

And it also has been explained over and over again that you can “fix” this yourself by making a 5man premade if you think you are highly misrated. No mmr involved anymore.

What would I? I don’t have to 5 man to get a competitive/ 50 50 game. Thats stupid; Anet might as well specify that ranked is only for team. Which is obv. not the case. What type of system forces people to pre made to get fair games??

Getting a team yourself is to avoid the current algorithm doing the job for you knowing how it works regarding average and low MMR. Of course if your MMR is high you would be smiling but if not…

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Yasi.9065:

And it also has been explained over and over again that you can “fix” this yourself by making a 5man premade if you think you are highly misrated. No mmr involved anymore.

What would I? I don’t have to 5 man to get a competitive/ 50 50 game. Thats stupid; Anet might as well specify that ranked is only for team. Which is obv. not the case. What type of system forces people to pre made to get fair games??

Getting a team yourself is to avoid the current algorithm doing the job for you knowing how it works regarding average and low MMR. Of course if your MMR is high you would be smiling but if not…

Lol, I know teaming up help, my point was I don’t have to team up to get a fair/competitive game. I have nothing against teaming up since I was able to get out of amber by duo ing. Remember, someone said they fixed the MMR in the middle of last season ( if there is any truth to that statement) why not do the same in season 2?

Here are the problems with the current matchmaking system:

1.People start in the same divisions each season instead of keeping their previous seasons.

2.Impatience from players instead of allowing the system to sort itself out.

The attached screenshot has quite some close matches. I’m T2 sapphire (just one more win until T3) though the games before today were a DuoQ and some TrioQ with someone who’s in ruby (we even had some primordial legends on our team so that helped things along).

Just keep at it, as we improve we face tougher opposition and isn’t that how it’s supposed to be?

Agemnon.4608:

Here are the problems with the current matchmaking system:

1.People start in the same divisions each season instead of keeping their previous seasons.

2.Impatience from players instead of allowing the system to sort itself out.

The attached screenshot has quite some close matches. I’m T2 sapphire (just one more win until T3) though the games before today were a DuoQ and some TrioQ with someone who’s in ruby (we even had some primordial legends on our team so that helped things along).

Just keep at it, as we improve we face tougher opposition and isn’t that how it’s supposed to be?

Starting in the same division is not a problem. For me the problems are:

1) Forming teams around your MMR and giving average MMR to new player.
2) Having safe points making it possible to grind higher than you should.

Remove these 2 and you will have a far less frustrating skill based ladder.

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Agemnon.4608:

Here are the problems with the current matchmaking system:

1.People start in the same divisions each season instead of keeping their previous seasons.

2.Impatience from players instead of allowing the system to sort itself out.

The attached screenshot has quite some close matches. I’m T2 sapphire (just one more win until T3) though the games before today were a DuoQ and some TrioQ with someone who’s in ruby (we even had some primordial legends on our team so that helped things along).

Just keep at it, as we improve we face tougher opposition and isn’t that how it’s supposed to be?

Starting in the same division is not a problem. For me the problems are:

1) Forming teams around your MMR and giving average MMR to new player.
2) Having safe points making it possible to grind higher than you should.

Remove these 2 and you will have a far less frustrating skill based ladder.

You forgot that Matchmaking should also take into consideration the MMR of the opposing team, not just your teammates.

This match making system is ridiculous, it is impossible to win for 5 rubies against 5 diamonds.

Anyway I am diamond now, and I don’t need to pvp anymore.

zcpbwl.7056:

This match system is ridiculous, it is impossible to win for 5 rubies against 5 diamonds.

No, it’s not impossible.

StickerHappy.8052:

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

Agemnon.4608:

Here are the problems with the current matchmaking system:

1.People start in the same divisions each season instead of keeping their previous seasons.

2.Impatience from players instead of allowing the system to sort itself out.

The attached screenshot has quite some close matches. I’m T2 sapphire (just one more win until T3) though the games before today were a DuoQ and some TrioQ with someone who’s in ruby (we even had some primordial legends on our team so that helped things along).

Just keep at it, as we improve we face tougher opposition and isn’t that how it’s supposed to be?

Starting in the same division is not a problem. For me the problems are:

1) Forming teams around your MMR and giving average MMR to new player.
2) Having safe points making it possible to grind higher than you should.

Remove these 2 and you will have a far less frustrating skill based ladder.

You forgot that Matchmaking should also take into consideration the MMR of the opposing team, not just your teammates.

Ideally that too yes. But what really gets to me is not getting beaten by ppl that are better than me. It’s loosing matches we clearly should not have. Being paired with really bad players ruining it all that are too heavy to carry. It is hard to endure for long.

zcpbwl.7056:

This match making system is ridiculous, it is impossible to win for 5 rubies against 5 diamonds.

Anyway I am diamond now, and I don’t need to pvp anymore.

This is sooo wrong to say that and make me beleive you are one of those I’m being fed when I play in ruby.

That you play with ruby doesn’t mean they are ‘ruby" level of skill. Maybe their current play level is also diamond or higher and just didn’t play as much this season hence why they are ruby for now. Your current level in the league is meaningless. Only your ultimate potential really matter.