Guild Wars 2

In the screenshot below the Mesmer ( Misha ) not speced into any Phantasm damage traits has hit me ( Bunker Clerics Guardian ) with 2k toughness for 6.7k in 1 strike. After speaking with Misha, he has also suggested to me that something maybe broken with Warlock this patch as before he has never hit anyone that high, let alone a bunker Guardian.

After some testing I have noticed that the Warlock seems to be dealing the same damage to every type or Armour suggesting that the Warlock is hitting through toughness?

Can anyone shed any light on this? Any other unreal Warlock crits??

If so this needs to be fixed before the legends Tournament. Please investigate Anet.

Fraelin.7409:

In the screenshot below the Mesmer ( Misha ) not speced into any Phantasm damage traits has hit me ( Bunker Clerics Guardian ) with 2k toughness for 6.7k in 1 strike. After speaking with Misha, he has also suggested to me that something maybe broken with Warlock this patch as before he has never hit anyone that high, let alone a bunker Guardian.

After some testing I have noticed that the Warlock seems to be dealing the same damage to every type or Armour suggesting that the Warlock is hitting through toughness?

Can anyone shed any light on this? Any other unreal Warlock crits??

If so this needs to be fixed before the legends Tournament. Please investigate Anet.

Warlock scales 10% damage per unique condition on the target. It has always had the capability to do monstrous damage, but its rare to see it in PvP, usually you get that in PvE.

You probably had a significant condition load, and that turbocharged the iWarlock’s damage.

That being said, I’ll do a look-see and try to find discrepancies.

I can confirm to you, I had 3 conditions at the time, i did consider this. Even so I have never been hit that high by Warlock.

I suspect that some forms of A.I were blanket buffed (even player spawned A.I) when the update to PvP NPCs happened.

Fight the Guild Lord, Chieftain, Svanir, 8 Profession dummies in the mists, etc. They were all blanket buffed – I think there was some carry over on to specific A.I player abilities.

and you are worried more about this than Power Block putting rezzes/stomps on CD ?

MEH.

And since Mesmers can load almost every singe condition possible easily when specced…

Swim.6830:

And since Mesmers can load almost every singe condition possible easily when specced…

How is that even relevant ?

But ye, I saw frae melt instantly. Also, it happened while time warp was being used. Maybe has nothing to do with it, or maybe it does, through weird coding or w/e.

I’m not seeing anything out of the ordinary with my testing. In a full phantasm modifier build with a zerker amulet and eagle runes, it’kittenting the heavy golem for 4k crits. This is pretty much what I’ve seen in the past.

Is it possible that Misha did a daze burst and stacked you with 25 vuln?

Chaith.8256:

I suspect that some forms of A.I were blanket buffed (even player spawned A.I) when the update to PvP NPCs happened.

Fight the Guild Lord, Chieftain, Svanir, 8 Profession dummies in the mists, etc. They were all blanket buffed – I think there was some carry over on to specific A.I player abilities.

I think it has something to do with this. The hotfix for pets helped with some things, but I feel like some NPC’s and the like are still hitting rediculously hard.

I was fighting a profession trainer (the ele) and got 1-shot by 5k vapor blade (an ele auto attack) and arcane wave for 10k. I seriously wish I could hit a 5k vapor blade JUST ONCE. :-)

Regardless, I hope these scaling things get looked into.

Yep, the warlock is bugged. crits 3k on heavy golem and 4.8k with some simple staff conditions. :p

it’s always done a good amount of damage even without traits towards it.

Xbon.9086:

it’s always done a good amount of damage even without traits towards it.

Indeed, but not like this.

With some conditions in the middle of combat it usually did 2.5k- 3k. With 3 conditions I was able to crit 6k+ on the light golem.

Time to try it out in spvp xD

confirmed!

Seems like all A.I. became bugged or someone of them for sure after patch, i crit with Hammer of wisdom for 4,5K on heavy golem with 900 power!!!

Tage.7045:

Seems like all A.I. became bugged or someone of them for sure after patch, i crit with Hammer of wisdom for 4,5K on heavy golem with 900 power!!!

yep, same with ranger-pets and those 4k+ autohits

Ghostwolf.9863:

Yep, the warlock is bugged. crits 3k on heavy golem and 4.8k with some simple staff conditions. :p

That’s normal damage.

lol so thats why mesmers are hitting so hard after patch.

I hope a fix asap.

Elxdark.9702:

lol so thats why mesmers are hitting so hard after patch.

I hope a fix asap.

Or they increased the warlock’s projectile speed, before patch, it couldn’t hit anything, hence it’s hard to notice it.

Or the bolt follows the target?

Edit again…

And Mesmers are now able to stack mights with sigil of battle.

It was noticeable even before the patch when the lock hit someone.

Now you notice by their healthbar dropping by 30-40%

tooltip says ~660 dmg with my build, it was hitting ~1500 non crits.

Today’s patch may have fixed it:
“Fixed a bug that caused Mesmer clones to receive rune bonuses from their master.”

Silverwing.8750:

Today’s patch may have fixed it:
“Fixed a bug that caused Mesmer clones to receive rune bonuses from their master.”

That’s in relation to Golem and Nightmare runes.
Clones were counting towards total runes equipped and triggering on hit effects.

I saw an 11k strike in dueling arenas, this was vs a zerker ele. Can this please be addressed?

FYI its Necromancer

BlackBeard.2873:

Chaith.8256:

I suspect that some forms of A.I were blanket buffed (even player spawned A.I) when the update to PvP NPCs happened.

Fight the Guild Lord, Chieftain, Svanir, 8 Profession dummies in the mists, etc. They were all blanket buffed – I think there was some carry over on to specific A.I player abilities.

I think it has something to do with this. The hotfix for pets helped with some things, but I feel like some NPC’s and the like are still hitting rediculously hard.

I was fighting a profession trainer (the ele) and got 1-shot by 5k vapor blade (an ele auto attack) and arcane wave for 10k. I seriously wish I could hit a 5k vapor blade JUST ONCE. :-)

I thought the profession trainers were doing an awful lot of damage. I guess the HotM map needs the buff because the Foefire and Niflhel NPCs are there for build testing.

I’m hitting 2.4k crit without conditions and 5.2k crit with 3 conditions on heavy golem. On light golem I’m hitting for 6.5k crit, so it doesn’t ignore armor. All the traits for illusion damage were traited. I think it was around these numbers before the patch. Besides, all other illusions seem to be hitting around the same, so I don’t think there’s something wrong with the warlock. Maybe you had a lot of vulnerability stacks or the mesmer had a lot of might stacks.

How much total armor do you have? Heavy golem has 2.6k armor.

Edited: Was running tests using wrong golem, fixed values.

Yea, I think mesmer clones are hitting MUCH harder now for some reason.

IZerker also hits at least 4 times now, each about 2.5-3k on a zerker spec, which is more than it used to (was about 2-3 hits).

im seeing 4.6k crits on warriors with around 3-5 conditions. due to how hectic pvp can be i cant say but yeah thats really rigged. they should really look into this before tournaments happen cuz if we see people having staff mesmers on their comp we would know why.

Shaorune.2347:

im seeing 4.6k crits on warriors with around 3-5 conditions. due to how hectic pvp can be i cant say but yeah thats really rigged. they should really look into this before tournaments happen cuz if we see people having staff mesmers on their comp we would know why.

Again, 4.6k crits is perfectly normal. This is not higher than it used to be. I have no idea why everyone is flipping out about this.

Noticed a lot of abnormally high crits with this in Angz post patch.

People just don’t seem to understand that warlocks hit like trucks.

In PvE, my warlock will regularly crit for over 18k damage on bosses with large numbesr of conditions. This phantasm has an insanely high damage potential.

4k-6k crits on players in PvP is absolutely ordinary.

Pyroathiest.4168:

People just don’t seem to understand that warlocks hit like trucks.

In PvE, my warlock will regularly crit for over 18k damage on bosses with large numbesr of conditions. This phantasm has an insanely high damage potential.

4k-6k crits on players in PvP is absolutely ordinary.

Not when it’s never hit like that before.

Pyroathiest.4168:

People just don’t seem to understand that warlocks hit like trucks.

In PvE, my warlock will regularly crit for over 18k damage on bosses with large numbesr of conditions. This phantasm has an insanely high damage potential.

4k-6k crits on players in PvP is absolutely ordinary.

Should white raven double hit for 2×3k with every attack?

I have not been able to reproduce any of what you guys are talking about here. My guess is its simply a LTP issue. Mesmers are easy mode after this update, they only have a couple of builds that haven’t been dumped on. Most I run into are running PU or a variation of that.

Got to agree with Pyro. Back in October I had my Warlock hit a Necromancer for about 5.8k if I remember correctly (can’t look it up… super slow internet at my grandmothers house). It’s somewhere in the video of my build. I didn’t run any phantasm traits at that time. Such a hit might not happen often (mostly because the projectile tends to miss…) but it is not like it never happened before. Misha probably just got lucky.

iWarlock had always hit that hard. As a matter of fact, they used to hit harder back in the day.

Yea AI has been buffed to some extent without our expicit knowledge. Thieves Guild is kittening ridiculous now. xD