Guild Wars 2

Everybody smart is running bird rune becouse it is much stronger than strength rune, or is it? Will bird rune be banned in two weeks or not?

changed my mind.

condi builds are still getting perma burning with only 1-2 sources of burning through balthazaar runes, but yeah lets ignore that and nerf every power rune!

when i see something on the death breakdown that isn’t a condition then sure,
nerf more power runes.

edit: also i’ve started playing Pirate Runes+Phalanx Strength
i mostly made the build because everyone was complaining about parrot,
so i thought i’d give the parrot fury and 1000 power, trololo >:-3

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XGhoul.7426:

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I lel’d at this

The bird is the word.

Birdsie + support ele + air/water elemental -> so much fun

Heal/support guardian + birdsie -> even more fun

Running condi build with burning runes -> trumps it all until you meet support ele with birdsie runes ;p

Btw, did you notice that bird and dog AI are way better and way more responsive than necro minion AI? Funny how you have to run pirate runes as MM to have at least one pet that attacks immediatly instead of standing around for 30+ seconds and then deciding to wander off after you get downed.

double pet for ranger XD

celestial engi 10/0/30/20/10 with bird runes, bombs toolkit elixir gun, really tankie engineer and an immortal bird, 2-4k dps depending on might and enemy’s tank on point around 700 hps with regen bombs and super elixir and all you have to do is spam bomb auto attack and dodge and such, it’s a bit redic but I’m enjoying it while I can.

ukuni.8745:

celestial engi 10/0/30/20/10 with bird runes, bombs toolkit elixir gun, really tankie engineer and an immortal bird, 2-4k dps depending on might and enemy’s tank on point around 700 hps with regen bombs and super elixir and all you have to do is spam bomb auto attack and dodge and such, it’s a bit redic but I’m enjoying it while I can.

This is one of the reason i see tons of engieneers. They are extremly strong now with bird. Condies , birdo, this is insane! Hope developers notice this HUGE problem of imbalancement.

I don´t understand why you struggle with that bird. As a homepoint defender im tanky enough to deal with it, as a roamer im fast enough to kite it. As warrior i get free condi removal cause i always land earthshaker on atleast 1 target when dueling and anyone running pirate runes sacrifices alot in teamfights. The real problem is, that in some cases the AI is higher than the player intelligence.

Blackjack.5621:

I don´t understand why you struggle with that bird. As a homepoint defender im tanky enough to deal with it, as a roamer im fast enough to kite it. As warrior i get free condi removal cause i always land earthshaker on atleast 1 target when dueling and anyone running pirate runes sacrifices alot in teamfights. The real problem is, that in some cases the AI is higher than the player intelligence.

So if its that easy to deal with the bird why you find it so good on your staff ele and want to keep it in current state so badly?
Because when someone is forced to stand on point in 1v1 against pirate rune user it completely kittens him up.

Urejt.5648:

ukuni.8745:

celestial engi 10/0/30/20/10 with bird runes, bombs toolkit elixir gun, really tankie engineer and an immortal bird, 2-4k dps depending on might and enemy’s tank on point around 700 hps with regen bombs and super elixir and all you have to do is spam bomb auto attack and dodge and such, it’s a bit redic but I’m enjoying it while I can.

This is one of the reason i see tons of engieneers. They are extremly strong now with bird. Condies , birdo, this is insane! Hope developers notice this HUGE problem of imbalancement.

yea the build its self is strong without the bird, without it you have to atleast combo kitten properly to kill something.

mind you I don’t have a problem fighting against the bird but when I don’t have to play properly to kill people then there is a problem.

Leeto, then make sure to rotate properly so no squishy class is forced on point. And it´s easier to hold a node vs my build than any warrior/engi. I wouldn´t use pirate if i had access to perma 25 might or perma burn. To survive strength runes, unavoidable air sigils etc i have to apply counterpressure which is not easy to do in a duel if all your single target abilities are designed that poorly, so I´m using pirate to compensate for my builds weaknes and the bad design of air2 and autoattacks.

It´s just annoying to see clueless people crying about it and influence clueless devs with their opinion.

Indeed in a perfect world we would see less ai, but it would also hurt many builds that don´t benefit from might stacking or burn spam on a competitive level.

Blackjack.5621:

Leeto, then make sure to rotate properly so no squishy class is forced on point. And it´s easier to hold a node vs my build than any warrior/engi. I wouldn´t use pirate if i had access to perma 25 might or perma burn. To survive strength runes, unavoidable air sigils etc i have to apply counterpressure which is not easy to do in a duel if all your single target abilities are designed that poorly, so I´m using pirate to compensate for my builds weaknes and the bad design of air2 and autoattacks.

It´s just annoying to see clueless people crying about it and influence clueless devs with their opinion.

Indeed in a perfect world we would see less ai, but it would also hurt many builds that don´t benefit from might stacking or burn spam on a competitive level.

Like your team rotated all squishies to character select screen and got celestial classes?
Anyway no point arguing you are experienced enough player to know if pirate rune is good for this game or not, but other class garbage is no excuse for piling up your own.

Ai is not good for the game, but the fact that it keeps supportive classes viable is good. Actually they give us build diversity, so we see more than might stacking.

Bird is annoying, but I’d rather face the bird than a turret engi. Both require the same level of skill to play.

Turret engi with a bird. Mind blown.

NeXeD.3042:

Turret engi with a bird. Mind blown.

I saw that today. Great for being afk and still doing well.

Blackjack.5621:

Ai is not good for the game, but the fact that it keeps supportive classes viable is good. Actually they give us build diversity, so we see more than might stacking.

Where is the diversity when these runes are one of the best possibilities as thief, condi engi, turret engi, ranger dps/bunker, hambow, condi war, mesmer shatter, mesmer pu ?

Hum, AI should definitly be out of any rune

ParadoX.3124:

Blackjack.5621:

Ai is not good for the game, but the fact that it keeps supportive classes viable is good. Actually they give us build diversity, so we see more than might stacking.

Where is the diversity when these runes are one of the best possibilities as thief, condi engi, turret engi, ranger dps/bunker, hambow, condi war, mesmer shatter, mesmer pu ?

Hum, AI should definitly be out of any rune

all wrong except ranger maybe

style.6173:

NeXeD.3042:

Turret engi with a bird. Mind blown.

I saw that today. Great for being afk and still doing well.

i tried it out a few days ago its hilarious, wouldn’t say it makes turrets viable for top tier pvp but its probably the best pug destroyer ive ever seen

It is lame but its a minor issue at most imo. At least there is counter play.

no its not a minor issue anymore. more than 50% players i play with/against run those kitten runes. its getting really annoying when you have to play against classes carried by a kitten bird. killing the bird is often not an option if you’re not a class with a lot of aoe.

i luv the bird it doubles my main hand axe ranger dps.

Yasi.9065:

Btw, did you notice that bird and dog AI are way better and way more responsive than necro minion AI? Funny how you have to run pirate runes as MM to have at least one pet that attacks immediatly instead of standing around for 30+ seconds and then deciding to wander off after you get downed.

I did actually notice, and moreover it’s tankier than most necro minions except Golem! It’s always either Pirate or Grove runes for me when I MM.

Devs must be scratching their heads right now,
“But I thought Ai Was good for the game?”

Seriously 17k hp? Evades? 1.5-3k crits? Constantly Up?
kitten it’s almost as good as a ranger pet.

Darnis.4056:

Devs must be scratching their heads right now,
“But I thought Ai Was good for the game?”

Seriously 17k hp? Evades? 1.5-3k crits? Constantly Up?
kitten it’s almost as good as a ranger pet.

The runes are OP, I’ve been using them since before strength got nerfed. That being said I’ve never seen a 3k crit, usually right around 1.5k… does it really hit 3k? any website have the stats on the bird? Another great thing is sometimes players accidentally attack the bird instead of you and it can save you from massive damage

As someone relatively new to the pvp part of the game I can’t believe they let so many “pets” into it. Other day I thought I was fighting a t1 wvw blob but then I realized it was a mm necro, a mesmer with her clones and a ranger with spirits. And at least one of those pirate birds hitting me for almost 2k. Why anyone thought it would make sense for a parrot to hit for 2k is beyond me.

Too many birds, too many many birds.

The truth is, it’s just a flying rock dog and no one really complained about the ogre runes which actually provide the same Ai damage and better player stats than rune of the pirate.

I got downed by an engi. He was low health. I procced a bird. He LoS’d. Bird downed him.

I won the rez battle. I think I outskilled him.

Rock dog cant evade.

As enige I must say that not being able to use aoe attacks untill I have a crit without hitting the bird sux kitten , not even 1 but 2 kittens , maybe 3 cuz if I hit burd I lose 50000000k dps on player.

Gr. Texbi

So, Rune of The Pirate is overpowered and needs to be nerfed extremely fast?

i would like to write about the parrot from the pirate runes and ranger pets

-the range in wich the pet followed the enemy was dicreased, becouse the pet kept the enemy in fight, while the ranger could reset himself…, but the parrot is fine?

-petdmg was dicreased, becouse the effort, wich the ranger needed to bring against an enemy was very low, becouse the pet dealt a lot of dmg/most dmg…, but the parrot is fine?

-ranger pets die rly fast, becouse they cant dodge, while the parrot has evade frames and the parrot seems to be as tanky as tanky ranger pets like drakes/bears, while dealing more dmg, than dps ranger pets like felines…seems legit

my suggestion to solve this piraterune problem would be to give ranger the parrot as pet by removing the other ranger pets

edit: and make every class a ranger…so you would even solve the sd thief and warrior healing signet and cele problem…..3 in 1

edit2: the last part was a bad joke