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Posted by: Josh Davis.6015

Josh Davis.6015

After a thorough internal investigation it has become very clear that the players who signed up to play on the roster of “Majestic Capricorns” in the European World Tournament Series Invitational Qualifiers were not the ones who actually participated in the event, violating a number of rules regarding eligibility as well as Section 9 of the Guild Wars 2 User Agreement (players may not share accounts).

Additionally, the Majestic Capricorns have also violated the following World Tournament Series rules:

  • Players who engage in unsportsmanlike, disruptive, annoying, harassing or threatening conduct or violate any rule, gain unfair advantage, or attempt to obtain winner status using fraudulent means, including, without limitation, cheating, hacking, deception, or other unfair practices, in Tournament Organizer/Administrator’s reasonable discretion, will be disqualified.
  • By participating, players understand and acknowledge that the Tournament Entities are responsible for all aspects of this Tournament, and that the Guild Wars 2 User Agreement and Rules of Conduct shall apply.

As a result of the aforementioned rule violations, the following actions will be taken:

  • Effective immediately, team “Majestic Capricorns” and all players directly involved in the deception described above are hereby disqualified from the World Tournament Series 2015.
  • Majestic Capricorns forfeit all pending rewards for tournament participation.
  • The Majestic Capricorns forfeit their match against team Orange Logo. Orange Logo will move on to the World Tournament Series Finals in Cologne.
  • Additional penalties for players involved will be handled after an investigation for each individual case.

Fairness in competitive play is something we believe in very strongly at ArenaNet and as such we are taking this violation very seriously. Our investigation into this matter will be ongoing and additional penalties may be levied at our sole discretion.

Thanks,

Joshua Davis
ArenaNet Competitive Events Manager

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

This is the drama you were talking about in that conference? I like it.

popcorns up

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Posted by: lighter.2708

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This is the drama you were talking about in that conference? I like it.

popcorns up

lol

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

Good work grouch. Shame that things like this cause you guys trouble at anet and take your time away from improving the events and pvp you provide. I hope those who are tempted to break rules consider they hurt everyone by doing so.

Not that i am saying people cheated. I dunno anything about it obvaments

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Posted by: Ristillath.6745

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This is the drama you were talking about in that conference? I like it.

popcorns up

Exactly the thing I thought first too.

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Posted by: OlrunTheBlade.1486

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Time to watch the drama unfold. Salt Lord Hiba – engage.

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Posted by: seineith.7048

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

This is the drama you were talking about in that conference? I like it.

popcorns up

Exactly the thing I thought first too.

Everyone’s so focused on getting popcorn that there’s going to be nothing to watch.

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Posted by: xantosnightwish.5438

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Cant cheat. Consequences inc.

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Posted by: seineith.7048

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This is the drama you were talking about in that conference? I like it.

popcorns up

Exactly the thing I thought first too.

Everyone’s so focused on getting popcorn that there’s going to be nothing to watch.

i’m hungry tho!!!

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Posted by: Kraljevo.2801

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Oh Michael… May your popcorn supplies be endless down there.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

Cant cheat. Consequences inc.

True, but we still don’t know what happened :/

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Posted by: seineith.7048

seineith.7048

Cant cheat. Consequences inc.

True, but we still don’t know what happened :/

trust me, i’m sure details will come out soon enough. we all know how gw2 drama works, everybody knows everybody else’s business. kitten actions always see the light of day, LOL.

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Posted by: Wolfey.3407

Wolfey.3407

I believe a suiting punishment would be for their characters to be BURNT AT THE STAKE in Heart of the Mists, over the bonfire next to the wall that lists the champions.

Along with other punishments

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Posted by: ToyToy.4256

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Since SALT lost to MC why are you not letting them play against orng for the 2nd place ? Thats really unfair

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Posted by: CodeHavoc.7926

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Dang out of popcorn
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Posted by: Laraley.7695

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Since SALT lost to MC why are you not letting them play against orng for the 2nd place ? Thats really unfair

Lolz.

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Posted by: Terrorsquad.4802

Terrorsquad.4802

Lol, whats with them alt’ing everywhere.. Some of them also alted in AG. Severe punishment should be given.

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Posted by: Brunners.7251

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Since SALT lost to MC why are you not letting them play against orng for the 2nd place ? Thats really unfair

I have absolutely no love for SALT what-so-ever but even I think that maybe they should at least get a shot, especially if they were affected by the MC stuff too.

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Posted by: seineith.7048

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As much as it would seem fair to replay 3rd/1st place, it’s unreasonable to assume that SALT has a chance against oRNG tbh.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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As much as it would seem fair to replay 3rd/1st place, it’s unreasonable to assume that SALT has a chance against oRNG tbh.

Doesn’t matter the show must go on! Fuel the fire! Pop moar popcorn!

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Posted by: Murre.3548

Murre.3548

Hi Arenanet.

I am from SALT- Night Junior.

I just wanted to say that this really ruined my pvp competition. We didnt only play once against “Majestic Capricorns” but twice. And the games where super close.
SALT have been very active and taking part in tournaments, We have won against Orng and TCG many times, but because Majestic Capricorns was on our side of the brackets we never had the chanse to face our true rivals and compete for WTS.

I am very upset and i contacted u before the tournament started because I knew that they where sharing account but U never listened to me. I demand a fair tournament.

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Posted by: Covis.6037

Covis.6037

it would be fair to give SALT a go but its been officially announced that oRNG will go to cologne so dont think it will happen.

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Posted by: sendmark.4731

sendmark.4731

I don’t recall SALT winning vs full lineups of oRNG and TCG without Frostball and Trebax. Would be pointless games.

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Posted by: ToyToy.4256

ToyToy.4256

As much as it would seem fair to replay 3rd/1st place, it’s unreasonable to assume that SALT has a chance against oRNG tbh.

Even if i hate some of their players, they did have win more than once against orng, they could have win this time also

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Posted by: Wolfey.3407

Wolfey.3407

public humiliation is more than enough punishment :P

We can take it further!

C’mon Let’s Crucify their characters or hang them off the Pillars in the PvP lobby…. Or use them as target practice to constantly kill

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Posted by: Murre.3548

Murre.3548

Since SALT lost to MC why are you not letting them play against orng for the 2nd place ? Thats really unfair

I have absolutely no love for SALT what-so-ever but even I think that maybe they should at least get a shot, especially if they were affected by the MC stuff too.

Yeh. played aganist them 4 games because they where on our side of the brackets. So our first game was against them, we lost, then we won all our games to climb up, and there they where again, and we lost. We would most likely play against TCG- then Orng

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Posted by: Ristillath.6745

Ristillath.6745

Who did they share their accounts with?

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Posted by: Murre.3548

Murre.3548

I don’t recall SALT winning vs full lineups of oRNG and TCG without Frostball and Trebax. Would be pointless games.

We have beat Orng many times without frostball and trebax, and i have it all on recording, We have strong chanses against them dont worry man.

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Posted by: Ristillath.6745

Ristillath.6745

I don’t recall SALT winning vs full lineups of oRNG and TCG without Frostball and Trebax. Would be pointless games.

We have beat Orng many times without frostball and trebax, and i have it all on recording, We have strong chanses against them dont worry man.

Stop whining publicly and send Grouch a private message about your issue.

I don’t think causing even more public drama will solve your issue.
Even if I can understand your concern, it’s not something that needs to be discussed in the forums.

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Posted by: KhaidaG.5098

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SALT played really well in the qualifier, I think that under such circumstances it would only be fair to give them a shot against oRNG for the 2nd WTS spot.

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Posted by: Harrier.9380

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I don’t recall SALT winning vs full lineups of oRNG and TCG without Frostball and Trebax. Would be pointless games.

We have beat Orng many times without frostball and trebax, and i have it all on recording, We have strong chanses against them dont worry man.

Stop whining publicly and send Grouch a private message about your issue.

I don’t think causing even more public drama will solve your issue.
Even if I can understand your concern, it’s not something that needs to be discussed in the forums.

But… but drama = esports!

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

This… This was staged. I can feel it now, this is becoming reality TV.

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Posted by: Murre.3548

Murre.3548

I don’t recall SALT winning vs full lineups of oRNG and TCG without Frostball and Trebax. Would be pointless games.

We have beat Orng many times without frostball and trebax, and i have it all on recording, We have strong chanses against them dont worry man.

Stop whining publicly and send Grouch a private message about your issue.

I don’t think causing even more public drama will solve your issue.
Even if I can understand your concern, it’s not something that needs to be discussed in the forums.

But… but drama = esports!

I sent a message saying they where alt accouting but they ignored it, once ORNG struggeled, they started reacting. so whining here might atleast wake people up

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Posted by: Ristillath.6745

Ristillath.6745

I don’t recall SALT winning vs full lineups of oRNG and TCG without Frostball and Trebax. Would be pointless games.

We have beat Orng many times without frostball and trebax, and i have it all on recording, We have strong chanses against them dont worry man.

Stop whining publicly and send Grouch a private message about your issue.

I don’t think causing even more public drama will solve your issue.
Even if I can understand your concern, it’s not something that needs to be discussed in the forums.

But… but drama = esports!

I sent a message saying they where alt accouting but they ignored it, once ORNG struggeled, they started reacting. so whining here might atleast wake people up

Wake up about what?
Do you think more than 10 people do care whether you are in the WTS or not?

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Posted by: Phil.8901

Phil.8901

Good job but i don’t think they’re the only ones to share account in Major Tournaments to bypass age rules.

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Posted by: DarkSyze.8627

DarkSyze.8627

“Fairness in competitive play is something we believe in very strongly at ArenaNet and as such we are taking this violation very seriously”.
I do not know if i should be happy about this news or not because i believe fairness and competitive Game Play should be use and include in every game play and every game mode having no exceptions: Pvp, Wvw, Pve, Tournament etc..

I have 1 questions to ask: Does this also mean: Arena net will finally take serious action against players-professions that use unfairness in all competitive gameplay?

That is all i always ask: for Guild Wars 2 to be a challenge, risk-reward and fun game and for Arena net to take serious action against any threats that violate it.

That is all

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Posted by: OlrunTheBlade.1486

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I sent a message saying they where alt accouting but they ignored it, once ORNG struggeled, they started reacting. so whining here might atleast wake people up

Do you expect Grouch to react instantly to every accusation? Pause the tournament whenever it’s suggested that someone’s an alt? He waited until he had proof before he acted.

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Posted by: Ash ketchum.2051

Ash ketchum.2051

Lol, whats with them alt’ing everywhere.. Some of them also alted in AG. Severe punishment should be given.

As a former player from Majestic I can say you that none off the original members of Majestic had anything to do with this. We wanted to disband, which we did. But because other players wanted a spot into the WTS we “gave” the team to them. If we knew these things would happen (and that 4k gems would be hand out Kappa) we’d never have gaven the team and just got some replacement players.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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I don’t recall SALT winning vs full lineups of oRNG and TCG without Frostball and Trebax. Would be pointless games.

We have beat Orng many times without frostball and trebax, and i have it all on recording, We have strong chanses against them dont worry man.

Stop whining publicly and send Grouch a private message about your issue.

I don’t think causing even more public drama will solve your issue.
Even if I can understand your concern, it’s not something that needs to be discussed in the forums.

But… but drama = esports!

I sent a message saying they where alt accouting but they ignored it, once ORNG struggeled, they started reacting. so whining here might atleast wake people up

Wake up about what?
Do you think more than 10 people do care about wether you are in the WTS or not

Fixed that for you.

Just kidding, but this isn’t the first time either ANet or their trusty hosters showed bias toward specific players. That’s why I don’t take it very seriously. Several of the core e-sports players are even friends with the devs. It’s like being pals with the ref, which is fine, I like that they enjoy the company of their players but maybe seeming a little less biased would be good.

Anyways, I say let them both fight it out.

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Posted by: Ristillath.6745

Ristillath.6745

I don’t recall SALT winning vs full lineups of oRNG and TCG without Frostball and Trebax. Would be pointless games.

We have beat Orng many times without frostball and trebax, and i have it all on recording, We have strong chanses against them dont worry man.

Stop whining publicly and send Grouch a private message about your issue.

I don’t think causing even more public drama will solve your issue.
Even if I can understand your concern, it’s not something that needs to be discussed in the forums.

But… but drama = esports!

I sent a message saying they where alt accouting but they ignored it, once ORNG struggeled, they started reacting. so whining here might atleast wake people up

Wake up about what?
Do you think more than 10 people do care about wether you are in the WTS or not

Fixed that for you.

Thanks didn’t see my mistake.

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

Stop whining publicly and send Grouch a private message about your issue.

I don’t think causing even more public drama will solve your issue.
Even if I can understand your concern, it’s not something that needs to be discussed in the forums.

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Posted by: Aenye.2390

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We have beat Orng many times without frostball and trebax, and i have it all on recording, We have strong chanses against them dont worry man.

Like 5 of your team, 4 of theirs. You are on ts, they just yolo, they only have party and don’t care. Such is reality, your team is only one that rocks ranked ques thininking it means something about being pro. Reality is you won no match that matters since playing without Frostball.

Reasons behind this dq are quite shallow atm and you want to demand something based on this?

If there will be reason for you to get into match vs. oRNG than you will.

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Posted by: ChoChoBo.6503

ChoChoBo.6503

So I’m a bit slow and out of the loop. MC used alts? What exactly does that mean, using alts? Did they have other people play for them? I’m a little lost. Clarify for me please.

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

Did they have other people play for them?

Yes. And now they won’t allow SALT to play oRNG for the next spot.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

Did they have other people play for them?

Yes. And now they won’t allow SALT to play oRNG for the next spot.

I think it would make sense if they let SALT have a match with oRNG to make sure no one was treated unfairly. Althought we both know it’s probably not going to change the outcome of the qualifiers, every team should be treated the same way.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

Grouchy gives, Grouchy takes.

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Posted by: Siphaed.9235

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Most likely they might lose their entire accounts. Considering that the accusations are that they were account sharing so that someone else could play for them -hello? anyone here of IP locations?- and win the tournament. Whether they paid these other individuals or what kind of compensation was agreed upon (split the winnings?) is a moot point. The bottom line is that they shared accounts to have others play their tournament qualifiers and play for them. That is a major violation of the User Agreement:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-user-agreement/

Additional License Restrictions — You acknowledge You will not directly or indirectly:

reverse engineer, translate, adapt, disassemble, decompile, or reduce to any human-perceivable form, any Software or parts thereof;
copy, distribute or reproduce any Service, Content, Software, or parts thereof;
modify, or create a derivative work of or based on, any Service, Content, Software, or parts thereof; and/or
sell, sub-license, rent, lease, grant a security interest in, borrow, lend, loan, network or engage in any activity that could in any way transfer or provide others access to any Service, Content, Software, or parts thereof, including but not limited to any serial code number, access key or the like.

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Posted by: Zuik.7158

Zuik.7158

Would be nice to see SALT vs oRNG for this spot.

No offense but if you’re claiming to strive for fair competition then you should treat the teams fairly too.